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Kerosene oil leak

  • 24-05-2013 11:26am
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 13


    Has anyone ever experienced this situation in a garden of a terrace house where a neighbors property is affected?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Private Joker


    I would get onto the councils environment section, this could potentially be very serious , depending on the scale of the leak.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 n3llo


    I would get onto the councils environment section, this could potentially be very serious , depending on the scale of the leak.

    All relevant professionals have been involved and our garden has had the remedial works carried out, our garden is grand now however next door garden has had some impact and they have to have the same investigative works and remedial works carried out as well via their insurance. Any thoughts on how these situations pan out?? Stress ++


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 934 ✭✭✭LowKeyReturn


    Oh Rylands v Fletcher - we meet again!


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 n3llo


    Oh Rylands v Fletcher - we meet again!

    So, in brief, as it was accidental we could be found negligent?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 934 ✭✭✭LowKeyReturn


    Can't give legal advice; partly due to forum charter, mainly due to incompetence to do so. Speak to your insurance company.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 987 ✭✭✭Kosseegan


    I am aware of a situation where it happened to a house near where I live. It went on for 5 years and involved 2 sets of High Court proceedings and the whole thing cost over €1.3m.
    Getting kerosene into the ground near or under a house is very serious and could have major health implications for the residents of the house. It should be covered on household insurance.
    There is no effective remediation only to take away the affected soil. There are companies claiming they can bio-remediate. In the case I mentioned above the bio remediator did not swear up when it got to court. The householder affected had got his own chemist who delivered a report which knocked the case stone dead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 n3llo


    Kosseegan wrote: »
    I am aware of a situation where it happened to a house near where I live. It went on for 5 years and involved 2 sets of High Court proceedings and the whole thing cost over €1.3m.
    Getting kerosene into the ground near or under a house is very serious and could have major health implications for the residents of the house. It should be covered on household insurance.
    There is no effective remediation only to take away the affected soil. There are companies claiming they can bio-remediate. In the case I mentioned above the bio remediator did not swear up when it got to court. The householder affected had got his own chemist who delivered a report which knocked the case stone dead.

    What do you mean by did not swear up in court? Not sure I understand!a chemist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    The basis for them to claim in law is there. A well known legal principle as LowKeyReturn has mentioned. If you google Rylands v. Fletcher you can read about it.

    I've seen a similar case go through court. I hope for your sake the kerosene leak was not your fault and perhaps the fault of the container manufacturer or otherwise.

    If you get a summons you had better seek legal advice.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Jo King


    n3llo wrote: »
    What do you mean by did not swear up in court? Not sure I understand!a chemist?

    You have heard of chemists surely? People qualified in chemistry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,771 ✭✭✭meercat


    a house 3 doors up had a kerosene leak
    it affected 3 houses on our road and also 3 houses behind
    all 6 gardens had to be dug up and treated
    took 3 months work in total
    2 garden walls had to be knocked and rebuilt
    specialist company from the north had to do it

    neighbours insurance company agreed to pay for all works,not our insurance

    problem was worse because they didnt act sooner and the kerosene dispersed into the soil and diluted with the ground water


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,523 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    The prolem with oil is that it is lighter than water, so when it reaches the water table, it then starts spreading, typically into other peoples' properties and drainage systems.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Jo King


    n3llo wrote: »
    So, in brief, as it was accidental we could be found negligent?

    Accidents don't happen, they are caused. Oil just doesn't leak, someone doesn't maintain the tank or the pipes or the boiler or is careless in filling the tank and then there is an oil spill.


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