dog for stud

andreac

JustAThought wrote: »

The thrashing bus driver has got online here is really disgusting -and yes -from both andreac, shaha shaha & yourself the way your are all rounding on him & the way you are interrogating him it does look like you are accusing him of that.

Another animal & pets bullying thread.

Congratulations -you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Please point out where i bullied him?

I asked a few questions as they were inquiring about using the dog for stud, my points were very valid actually.

mymo

Bus_driver, just to explain whats meant by health testing and the requirements for breeding.
First off is the dog registered?
Who is he registered with? (You said the owners were Eastern European, is it a foreign kennel club? Or did they transfer the registration to irish kennel club?)
Is he a good example of the breed? This doesn't just mean a nice looking friendly dog, unfortunately with bulldogs the breed has been very exaggerated over the years, even in the last 30 years (when I first saw one) they have changed quite a bit.
Health tests, usually hip and elbow scores this means X-rays, which are expensive which are then sent away to be checked by experts.
I'm not sure of specifics for bulldogs, but I think heart (not just listening to make sure it ticks ok) and checks for breathing issues and maybe eye tests (€30 approx it cost for my fellas eye test, through a breed club), but maybe genetic test for genetically passed illness.

This all adds up, it's quite an expense to do right, and then there's the bitch, bulldogs have serious birthing issues, and it's a big risk breeding them.
There is also the fact that unless you have a few generations of pedigree or he's from lines people have heard off or know about, people may be unwilling to breed him with their bitch.

I hope your dog is fine and healthy a gives you a good few years, and I hope you take this post the way it's meant (it's hard to get your point accross the way it's meant with just written words), to help you make an informed decision and get a better understanding of whats involved.
If he is a good healthy bulldog and has the correct looks that's great.
Best of luck with him, don't forget the pics!

borderlinemeath

JustAThought wrote: »

The thrashing bus driver has got online here is really disgusting -and yes -from both andreac, shaha shaha & yourself the way your are all rounding on him & the way you are interrogating him it does look like you are accusing him of that.

Another animal & pets bullying thread.

Congratulations -you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Thrashing? I don't see thrashing. I see people giving honest opinions on why it's not a good idea for a complete novice to breed a bulldog - SPECIFICALLY because they want a cheaper puppy and refuse to pay responsible breeder prices.

Everybody who posts here is aware of the risks of putting a bitch in pup and the risks are far far more substantial with bulldogs due to their exaggerated head size and need for surgical intervention. It's all well and good to be nicey nicey but when somebody says 'sure it only cost me €170, even if I only get a few more years out of him' that is bound to set alarm bells ringing with posters. I'm actually suprised nobody has called Troll yet.

snoman

At some point during this exchange the OP stated that they would no longer communicating on this thread because they felt the comments had been unhelpful. That post appears to have disappeared so I just thought that I would let those of you still responding know that I don't think the OP will be back.

Sorry! Just saw that it hadn't disappeared - so apologies.

ShaShaBear

borderlinemeath wrote: »

Thrashing? I don't see thrashing. I see people giving honest opinions on why it's not a good idea for a complete novice to breed a bulldog - SPECIFICALLY because they want a cheaper puppy and refuse to pay responsible breeder prices.

Everybody who posts here is aware of the risks of putting a bitch in pup and the risks are far far more substantial with bulldogs due to their exaggerated head size and need for surgical intervention. It's all well and good to be nicey nicey but when somebody says 'sure it only cost me €170, even if I only get a few more years out of him' that is bound to set alarm bells ringing with posters. I'm actually suprised nobody has called Troll yet.

I just think that this is a classic case of "Poster Didn't Hear What He Wanted To", an all too common occurence on this forum
I've tried to subdue and correct the tone of my posts since he started accusing us of calling him all sorts of shady - we're all telling him exactly the same thing - that his attitude towards his dog and future dogs is not appropriate if he plans to breed. He's having behavioural problems with this dog that he wants to breed that has not been health tested, he still hasn't told me if the dog is correctly socialised to accept another dog into the home and doesn't at all seem phased by the dangers to the bitch. He's really just not listening.

anniehoo

JustAThought wrote: »

The thrashing bus driver has got online here is really disgusting -and yes -from both andreac, shaha shaha & yourself the way your are all rounding on him & the way you are interrogating him it does look like you are accusing him of that.

Another animal & pets bullying thread.

Congratulations -you should be ashamed of yourselves.

JustAThought you have accused 2 members and a Moderator of bullying within this thread, which is completely inaccurate and back seat moderating for which I am yellow carding you. You know where the report button is, please use it.

Yes the OP got asked many questions and rightly so. Studding your dog is not to be taken lightly and if they cant answer basic questions then they need to think again.

Closing this thread as the OP has stated they won't be back and the tone is not pleasant now.