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Can anyone identify this tree?

  • 27-05-2013 2:48pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭


    A little Monday quiz for you!!

    I am looking to plant a tree in the corner of the back garden. I passed by this tree the other day and would like to know what it is so that I can see if it is appropriate for where I want to plant it.

    Anyone know what it is?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,856 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    would you have a closeup of a leaf? i'm thinking it might be an acer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    would you have a closeup of a leaf? i'm thinking it might be an acer.

    Never thought of that. It was a drive-by photo. I will see if I can get one and post it here. Those branches are pretty high, I'll have to hope there are one or two on the ground! I'd better call in rather than start climbing...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,680 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    All you need do is get a bit closer, a pic from the pavement would be fine, I agree it looks like an acer from the shape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Ok, will do. I thought it might be a birch variety.

    Anyone ever come across Chinese Evergreen Elm? I have just

    Really I'm looking for something that has a single straight trunk, with a good coverage, with preference for wideness rather than height (I know a lot can be achieved with pruning/shaping). A medium sized tree. Something that changes colour with the seasons would be great. I know its a lot to ask for, but something with scent would also be great.

    Any suggestions welcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    you dont want much do you :D

    A whitebaem may achieve what you are looking for in shape and size, has flowers and berries.

    But for scent maby an underplanting of scented shrubs or herbs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Oldtree wrote: »
    you dont want much do you :D

    A whitebaem may achieve what you are looking for in shape and size, has flowers and berries.

    But for scent maby an underplanting of scented shrubs or herbs.

    Yeah, I know, I'm pretty much looking for everything. But the priority is shape: I want something that is wide rather than really tall, and it must have a single straight trunk.

    Some of the whitebeams I have seen would tend to be taller rather than wide. The shape of the tree in my posted image is really what I am aiming for. I need to get back and get a closer look.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Thanks for that Oldtree, that's a nice one alright. If I could prune to get that wider rather than really tall it might just do the job. I need it to be fairly "slim" up to about 10 feet when fully grown, i.e. I will be planting quite close to a wall on one side and at the edge of a patio on the other, so dont want it to be taking up too much space.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    ok 10 foot, not whitebeam then, wouldn't look right... :D

    have a look here for a few ideas, but perhaps an acer is the way to go, there are many different and interesting barks to choose from.

    http://apps.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/Profile.aspx?PID=117

    maby somthing fastigate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Not sure fastigate is the answer. I need good spread once it reaches above wall height. I suppose I'd like something about 35ft high and with similar width/spread. The tree in the pic I posted is an ideal shape, the idea is to block some surrounding houses in what is a town garden. I already planted some bamboo last year. It's looking a bit anaemic so far but I am trying to stay positive :) I know that deciduous trees wont provide much cover in winter, but I'm happy with that.

    Thanks again for taking the time to post.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭rje66


    A little Monday quiz for you!!

    I am looking to plant a tree in the corner of the back garden. I passed by this tree the other day and would like to know what it is so that I can see if it is appropriate for where I want to plant it.

    Anyone know what it is?
    need a close up. But try a search on prunus kanzan or some of the other flowering cherries as an alternative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭Sgt Pepper 64


    Take a trip to the free National gardens of Ireland
    http://www.gardenexhibition.ie/
    or the botanical gardens

    and you should see something you like and get advice

    or even Bloom in the park if you are flush!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    so we have narrowed it down to a 10 foot trunk leading to a crown 25 foot high and 35 foot wide. I'm not sure your picture tree would do that. Any tree is going to take many years to grow into that shape.

    Sounds like you dont need a small tree at all. Put in a sycamore......:D
    but be warned your neighbours can cut off branches that overhang their property. You may be better off with a line of fastigate trees allowing room between them and the wall for girth expansion.

    perhaps a photo of the situation would help us help you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,680 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I have a crabapple that is more or less the shape you are talking about, though 10 foot of bare stem is asking a lot for it to then spread. However it is against a wall and I have had to savagely cut one side as the branches were hanging over the neighbours' side and they were not impressed when all the apples fell on their paving!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Prob six foot trunk before spreading would be ok


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    looksee wrote: »
    I have a crabapple that is more or less the shape you are talking about, though 10 foot of bare stem is asking a lot for it to then spread. However it is against a wall and I have had to savagely cut one side as the branches were hanging over the neighbours' side and they were not impressed when all the apples fell on their paving!

    a 35 foot high apple tree photo please :D

    to avoid annoying the neighbours, the tree so close to the boundry would require constant work, i really think a line of fastigate is the way to go.

    fastigate hornbeam is lovely and then underplant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭Sgt Pepper 64


    Oldtree wrote: »
    fastigate hornbeam is lovely and then underplant.

    thats easy for you to say!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    thats easy for you to say!

    it will take time to sort out any sort of privacy barrier to the height required. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    It looks like we are finally coming to make a decision on this, with the Sorbus Spire the leading contender now. A line of them (8-10), rather than fewer trees that have a wider coverage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Hostafairy


    I think that tree could be robinia .

    Prunus serulla is nice , sorbus vialli , aver davidii , are also nice trees

    Crataegus " Paul's scarlet " nice also
    Mount Venus nursery has nice trees in rathfarnham ;dublin
    Nangle and neeson in cork

    Tully nurseries dublin


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Paulownia


    I wonder if it is a birch...............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Paulownia


    for a lot of bang for your buck and if you want an evergreen other than the totally overused ones you see everywhere, eucryphia, a large leaf one or an evergreen hoheria will both give a super display of flowers, and will grow in all soils. Another idea might be a cornus kousa, if your soil suited it


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