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    #32
    Green&Red
    Registered Users Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    What about having a watch & HRM while racing, its spewing out important info on how close to the red or into it you are.
    I would consider someone who had a coach there to give splits as better prepared.It is giving no physical advantage only giving information which is free for anyone to have and theres the difference. One is interferring in the race directlu


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    #33
    miller82
    Registered Users Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭miller82


    tunney wrote: »
    It's in most (proper races). In Roth for example they had some quad bikes loaded with spare wheels and just swapped them out for punctures (you got your wheel back at the end), like road racing neutral mechanics.

    thats awesome


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    #34
    mloc123
    Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    tunney wrote: »
    It's in most (proper races). In Roth for example they had some quad bikes loaded with spare wheels and just swapped them out for punctures (you got your wheel back at the end), like road racing neutral mechanics.

    Austria 70.3 had set locations with the same... spare wheels, nice ones too.


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    #35
    peter kern
    Registered Users Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭peter kern


    Oryx wrote: »
    IM 70.3 UK will have bike mechanics on the course to help competitors with any bike issues, which is something I haven't heard of before.

    Edit:From the ITU rules:

    good luck waiting ;-) i rember catriona morrison had to wait close to 1 hour when her chain snaped at Im lanzarotte and she was the leading pro in the race .
    so not really sure how we could say a service like that is available for everybody. if their is 2 bike mechanics availabel. Its great that they out their but it does not make it available for everybody statistically speaking. (1500 athletes 2 mechanics so is a cotnaradiciton to the rule )
    so why not allow outside assitence to increase the chance that people get help ?
    They want to provide it but the rescouces are not available.


    Same thing why should you not be able to give water to an athelte that struggles in the heat and could get a stroke ( very bad publicity for triathlon when it happens) . or give a pair of gloves to one that is close to hypothermia.
    This could help to make the spot saver which should be the ultimate goal of the sport.

    Unless we say athetes need to carry all their food drinks with them and their will be no aid stations a totalt time trial start starting from the swim ( not happinging just in case you think thats a great idea ) I cant see why outside assitance is bad.


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    #36
    Oryx
    Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    peter kern wrote: »
    good luck waiting ;-)
    Not something I would ever hold my breath for. Ill have a toolkit.

    Same thing why should you not be able to give water to an athelte
    In IMAT people around the town were handing out water and fruit, and even beer, to competitors. By all accounts a few hundred should have been DQd for taking it then. ;)
    Unless we say athetes need to carry all their food drinks with them and their will be no aid stations a total time trial start starting from the swim ( not happinging just in case you think thats a great idea ) I cant see why outside assitance is bad.
    Because you'll get those who overuse the privilege and ruin it for everyone. The organisers clearly turn a blind eye to AG race fodder getting handed drinks etc, but its still officially against the rules, because it prevents overt help from an organised crew.


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    #37
    Unregistered.
    Registered Users Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    Oryx wrote: »
    Because you'll get those who overuse the privilege and ruin it for everyone. The organisers clearly turn a blind eye to AG race fodder getting handed drinks etc, but its still officially against the rules, because it prevents overt help from an organised crew.


    It's also there to protect the athletes I would have thought. Somebody hands you a bottle - you have no idea what could be in it!


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    #38
    Oryx
    Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Unregistered. wrote: »
    It's also there to protect the athletes I would have thought. Somebody hands you a bottle - you have no idea what could be in it!
    True.

    *shudder*


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    #39
    tunney
    Registered Users Posts: 12,583 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Unregistered. wrote: »
    It's also there to protect the athletes I would have thought. Somebody hands you a bottle - you have no idea what could be in it!

    Carrick on Suir tri a good few years back.

    Young lads handing out cups of water..... sourced from the river directly.


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    #40
    peter kern
    Registered Users Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭peter kern


    Unregistered. wrote: »
    It's also there to protect the athletes I would have thought. Somebody hands you a bottle - you have no idea what could be in it!

    I would have thought we dont even have an idea what could be in it if we buy a burger in the supermarket ;-)


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    #41
    sconhome
    Registered Users Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭sconhome


    peter kern wrote: »
    I would have thought we dont even have an idea what could be in it if we buy a burger in the supermarket ;-)

    Everyone knows what's in it, its just the label that's wrong :P


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    #42
    Ceepo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    tunney wrote: »
    Carrick on Suir tri a good few years back.

    Young lads handing out cups of water..... sourced from the river directly.

    Bull$hit utter Bull$hit.

    Don't know where you got your info from or from whom.
    But that never happened


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    #43
    longshank
    Registered Users Posts: 249 ✭✭longshank


    tunney wrote: »
    Carrick on Suir tri a good few years back.

    Young lads handing out cups of water..... sourced from the river directly.

    hope it wasnt from anywhere near the swim start!!!!


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    #44
    Mr Tango
    Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Mr Tango


    I experienced this in Lanzarote last week. No Coke at the aid stations and the amount of athletes getting Coke from spectators (who I assume they knew) was crazy.

    Did I mind - not really, I was just jealous my wife was on the wrong side of the road and I could get her to go and get me some!!

    At the same time can we just pick and choose some of the rules?

    If I was at the top end of the field in an Irish race and someone was doing this I would not be happy. At Tri An Mhi there was a guy in front of me in the run - think I was about 5th or 6th at the time and he had two lads cycling beside him effectively pacing him and feeding him. they would disappear and come back. I tried to ignore but after the third time I called the guy on the bike over and explained the rules. In fairness it was ignorance and they didn't do it again - he did offer me some food though! As soon as they stopped I passed the guy and never seen him again so there is an impact.


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    #45
    griffin100
    Registered Users Posts: 4,827 ✭✭✭griffin100


    tunney wrote: »
    Carrick on Suir tri a good few years back.

    Young lads handing out cups of water..... sourced from the river directly.

    Valentia Tri in 2010...........big barrel of water at the top of the hill at the run turnaround.......about 20 cups in total.........lads collecting discarded cups to reuse........multiple reuse of cups by many athletes.......it was so hot I don't think anyone cared........I didn't


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    #46
    longshank
    Registered Users Posts: 249 ✭✭longshank


    Ironman Switzerland-
    "Receiving food or drinks from personal supporters is only allowed at two aid station on the bike course and at three aid stations on the run course. At the following stations personal supporters are allowed to hand you food. Positions are well marked and indicated."


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    #47
    peter kern
    Registered Users Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭peter kern


    longshank wrote: »
    Ironman Switzerland-
    "Receiving food or drinks from personal supporters is only allowed at two aid station on the bike course and at three aid stations on the run course. At the following stations personal supporters are allowed to hand you food. Positions are well marked and indicated."

    that makes sense on the bike for saftey reasons
    but for the run why not, just as well allow it , if you already water it down at certain points. and again we could argue for safty reasons its safer if atheltes can use the food they are used too


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    #48
    tunney
    Registered Users Posts: 12,583 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    peter kern wrote: »
    that makes sense on the bike for saftey reasons
    but for the run why not, just as well allow it , if you already water it down at certain points. and again we could argue for safty reasons its safer if atheltes can use the food they are used too

    Special needs in any IM is usually off the track. There is "a slip road" and those that want to use special needs (either bags or supports) are led away from the main crowd. If its at any point you will have people abruptly changing lines quickly and cutting across other athletes unexpectedly.


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