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Top14 Final 2013: Toulon vs Castres, Sat 1 June 8pm; SetantaIRL / TV5Monde

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Unbelievable. Wonderful result for the T14. Feel bad for JW but it underlines how hard it is to win the double.

    Armitage with a great try at the end. If he was still in England and not a liability, he'd be on the Lions tour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Toulon get a try at the end, but it doesn't matter.

    Finals score 19 - 14


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,741 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Senseless involving the video ref at that stage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Consolation try for Toulon, but too late. Fabulous from Castres - delighted for them. Fabulous finish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Swan Curry


    Allez Castres!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,264 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Well done Castres.

    It shows how hard the double is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    I'm amazed, but yes, the double seems virtually impossible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Typical, was going to have a punt on Armitage for a try and instead went for more than 17.5 in first half. :D Why did Toulon have to leave it so late to get their handling going - as for their lineout and scrum.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Looking back, Wilko missed 3 penalties and 1 conversion :eek:
    When's the last time that happened?

    Taking nothing away from Castres, they wanted it a whole lot more tonight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,281 ✭✭✭A-Train


    Great stuff from Castres, delighted for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,761 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    Great result by Castres. Am I right in saying only Leicester have done the double?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Winters wrote: »
    Great result by Castres. Am I right in saying only Leicester have done the double?
    They mentioned Toulouse did the double back in 1996


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Winters wrote: »
    Great result by Castres. Am I right in saying only Leicester have done the double?

    Toulouse 1996.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭TheGoldenAges


    Leinster did the double :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭PJ Maybe


    He's a great player but the Bastareaud penalty leading to the first Castres drop goal was a key point. It was needless and moved the lineout half way up the pitch giving Castres the momentum back. Such small decisions make the game.

    Congrats to Castres on the win.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭totallegend


    Delighted for Castres, when Tales didn't get over for that try, I thought Toulon would turn the screw and get the win but Castres were absolutely the better team on the night.

    I think Bernard Laporte has a case to answer here. This was their third titanic match in three weeks and they played essentially the same XV in all three so there had to be an element of fatigue in there. Meanwhile guys like Mermoz, Elsom, David Smith and van Niekerk were sitting around waiting to be used and Gethin Jenkins was surplus to requirements completely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    YESSSSS!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,257 ✭✭✭Hagz


    Winters wrote: »
    Great result by Castres. Am I right in saying only Leicester have done the double?

    Toulouse did the double in 1996

    Leicester have done the double twice in 2001 and 2002

    Wasps did the double in 2004


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Just watched the game now. I'm delighted for Castres since they will struggle to make it next year without their coaches and Rory Kockott. If Kockott is going to Toulouse as suggested, then Toulouse have signed a class player.

    Fernandez Lobbe awesome as usual, if he had more pace he could have been a fullback with those aerial skills. Watch out for Castres' Brice Dulin in the tests against New Zealand, he would have played in the Six Nations but for injury.

    For all his detractors, Dirty Delon has been on fire lately. That's three tries in three games, he played very well today in general.
    I think Bernard Laporte has a case to answer here. This was their third titanic match in three weeks and they played essentially the same XV in all three so there had to be an element of fatigue in there. Meanwhile guys like Mermoz, Elsom, David Smith and van Niekerk were sitting around waiting to be used and Gethin Jenkins was surplus to requirements completely.

    It's a good point, perhaps they should have rotated their squad more. Guy Noves believed it was near impossible to win both the Heineken and Top14 titles in the same season (hence why he threw away the Amlin).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    For all his detractors, Dirty Delon has been on fire lately. That's three tries in three games, he played very well today in general.

    He's a reprehensible individual but he's a wonderful rugby player. He's absolutely made for a Lions tour if wasn't so divisive. He can play 15, 13 and wing and he is a solid goal kicker. Aside from the versatility, he's strong, elusive and picks great lines.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Drop goals still matter. Given how effective defences are, I think they're going to make a comeback. So invest in drop goals.

    That Kockott lad is one heck of a player. He must be taking his spinach too.


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