Random Wrasslin' thoughts.....

Moneymaker · 25-09-2015 1:08am

Rollins should go babyface soon tbh.

He's played out as a heel(he's still awesome but i've seen all he has to offer really) and everyone wants to cheer him. Dude would be an amazing babyface.

Stereomaniac · 25-09-2015 1:26am

I firmly believe that if Sheamus cashes in on him, it would benefit him greatly for a babyface turn. Sheamus isn't the kind of heel that people cheer on because he's so cool like.

Riddle101 · 25-09-2015 2:13am

If Sheamus does cash in, and he wins it, and then he manages to hold it till the end of the year, then that means that a heel has held the WWE World Championship all year long. First Lesnar who was more or less a heel champion until after Wrestlmania, then Seth Rollins won it and has held it since, so if Sheamus holds it for the rest of the year then it will be one whole year the WWE World Title was in the hands of a heel, although if you add in Lesnar's whole reign then it's like a year and a half. Also, If Sheamus manages to hold it till Wrestlmania then it will be one whole year of the title being held by a MITB winner. First by Rollins who cashed in at Wrestlmania, and then by Sheamus.

Either way, I think a face champion is long over due. I'm guessing Reigns will be the next face to hold it.

Moneymaker · 25-09-2015 2:24am

Riddle101 wrote: »

If Sheamus does cash in, and he wins it, and then he manages to hold it till the end of the year, then that means that a heel has held the WWE World Championship all year long. First Lesnar who was more or less a heel champion until after Wrestlmania, then Seth Rollins won it and has held it since, so if Sheamus holds it for the rest of the year then it will be one whole year the WWE World Title was in the hands of a heel, although if you add in Lesnar's whole reign then it's like a year and a half. Also, If Sheamus manages to hold it till Wrestlmania then it will be one whole year of the title being held by a MITB winner. First by Rollins who cashed in at Wrestlmania, and then by Sheamus.

Either way, I think a face champion is long over due. I'm guessing Reigns will be the next face to hold it.

John Cena says hi :pac:

Loughc · 25-09-2015 7:59am

Moneymaker wrote: »

John Cena says hi :pac:

To the us championship

I actually can't see Cena winning the big one again. I reckon 2016 will be the year he progress into more of a special attraction/ part timer.

beakerjoe · 25-09-2015 10:31am

Stereomaniac wrote: »

Just about to read beakerjoe's piece on Damien Sandow now. I read in places it wasn't his time to win the World Heavyweight Championship against John Cena that time, but I don't agree.

It wasnt his time, they were planning to unify teh titles so Cena made more sense, which was a pity but logical. What wasnt logical was Sandows fall from grace afterwards.

beakerjoe · 25-09-2015 10:34am

Moneymaker wrote: »

Rollins should go babyface soon tbh.

He's played out as a heel(he's still awesome but i've seen all he has to offer really) and everyone wants to cheer him. Dude would be an amazing babyface.

I disagree that everyone wants to cheer for him. He plays teh chicken **** heel well, but its the booking which holds him back. Having him lose a lot and only win via interfernce (not even cheating,just through run ins mostly from Kane, J&J and John Stewart. ) does nothing for his stature and credibility. Hesa great heel but the booking lets him down.

beakerjoe · 25-09-2015 10:34am

Stereomaniac wrote: »

I firmly believe that if Sheamus cashes in on him, it would benefit him greatly for a babyface turn. Sheamus isn't the kind of heel that people cheer on because he's so cool like.

Half of my ATH idea.

Stereomaniac · 25-09-2015 11:24am

Great minds think alike I guess Joe. I've been saying that on here for quite a while now anyway.

beakerjoe · 25-09-2015 11:35am

Stereomaniac wrote: »

Great minds think alike I guess Joe. I've been saying that on here for quite a while now anyway.

Im not mad on the idea of him being a top guy myself, he only has the briefcase because they wanted to swerve people on the obvious and more logical Roman Reigns win and have now booked themselves into a corner.

But if your going to have him cash in and win, surely Sheamus being the authority's next guy would be a huge boost to him.

Stereomaniac · 25-09-2015 11:40am

I'm looking forward to it because it's something that we won't have seen before, if he sides with the Authority. We haven't Sheamus in the main event in a couple of years now too so there's a few feuds and matches that we could get which aren't already done to death.

beakerjoe · 25-09-2015 11:43am

Stereomaniac wrote: »

I'm looking forward to it because it's something that we won't have seen before, if he sides with the Authority. We haven't Sheamus in the main event in a couple of years now too so there's a few feuds and matches that we could get which aren't already done to death.

Im not, I think that while he can wrestle and have good matches, his character is so bland and his delivery is ever so pantomime esque that I cant warm to him as a top guy.

Stereomaniac · 25-09-2015 11:45am

I think if he has Stephanie McMahon with him he could be pretty entertaining. I've enjoyed him since he changed over into this role. The John Cena-lite thing was getting a bit boring now.

sky88 · 25-09-2015 11:47am

Just not liking Sheamus at all at the minute character and promo wise. Hes good in ring but ive found myself groaning when i see him come on the tv. I will not be a happy man once he cashes in cause i cant see him losing the cash in attempt

Toobz · 25-09-2015 11:51am

beakerjoe wrote: »

I disagree that everyone wants to cheer for him. He plays teh chicken **** heel well, but its the booking which holds him back. Having him lose a lot and only win via interfernce (not even cheating,just through run ins mostly from Kane, J&J and John Stewart. ) does nothing for his stature and credibility. Hesa great heel but the booking lets him down.

I'd love to see Rollins as a p*ssed off, vengeful after sheamus cashes in.

Let him put on some proper matches and rip through the roster and build credibility for a face turn with the title

A Brad Maddox Guy · 25-09-2015 11:58am

Imagine him in a suit with the mohawk & braided beard standing beside HHH & Stephanie as he holds the belt above a fallen foe. I think he'd get a lot of heat, and not necessarily go away heat like Big Show since Sheamus can back it up in the ring.

If he's the champion with his current character it'll flop imo, if he becomes Triple H's new guy I think it could be very good as all of the 'smart fans' think of him as a HHH guy anyway.

Stereomaniac · 25-09-2015 12:08pm

That's what I was thinking too. In reality he probably got the briefcase in the first place because he's a Triple H ally. I know I definitely thought that when he won it. Ha ha, I was so happy he won the thing at the time because I made a nice bit of money on that result. If he suits up and becomes a worse coward it's going to really work well for Seth Rollins I think.

beakerjoe · 25-09-2015 12:17pm

Stereomaniac wrote: »

That's what I was thinking too. In reality he probably got the briefcase in the first place because he's a Triple H ally. I know I definitely thought that when he won it. Ha ha, I was so happy he won the thing at the time because I made a nice bit of money on that result. If he suits up and becomes a worse coward it's going to really work well for Seth Rollins I think.

If only they went with Kofi to win MITB, he would be a much more fun route

cian68 · 25-09-2015 9:40pm

Remember subtle heel Adrian Neville in the Sami Zayn feud at the end of last year? man that was great stuff.

Scavenger XIII · 26-09-2015 12:29am

cian68 wrote: »

Remember subtle heel Adrian Neville in the Sami Zayn feud at the end of last year? man that was great stuff.

I actually loved that whole thing, they had him become slightly heelish but never actually cheating or crossing the line. Kicking Sami's handshake away only to hug him a second later was pure gold as well.

Palo Alto · 26-09-2015 7:03am

NXT without Owens is really suffering for me. Finn is absolutely terribly bland at the moment and he's not progressed at all on the mic which is a shame. He needs a good foil

Riddle101 · 26-09-2015 7:14pm

Moneymaker wrote: »

John Cena says hi :pac:

Not really, the point I was making was that if Sheamus wins it off Rollins, then it will be the third consecutive time the WWE World Title was held by a heel. But also if Sheamus holds it to Wrestlmania then it would be about a year and 8 months since it was held by a face. Of course it's pure speculation on my part, merely a bold prediction but I think the next WWE World Champion after Sheamus should be a face.

gimmick · 29-09-2015 12:32pm

A woman I work with wants to go to the WWE November shows because of Total Divas.

I wonder has this happened a lot where women who have no interest whatsoever go to shows because of the Divas show?

Itssoeasy · 29-09-2015 1:06pm

Channel4 having wwe ppvs was the WORST decision ever made. I remember them not being live but never knew why until i looked it up last night.

They didn't know what they were getting apparently. So no one person in channel 4 towers had watched the product in the late nineties ?

Stereomaniac · 29-09-2015 1:47pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

If only they went with Kofi to win MITB, he would be a much more fun route

No I don't think so. I think The New Day are perfect where they are at the moment. I was almost anticipating a cash-in attempt last night. Where was Sheamus?

Mick Murdock · 29-09-2015 1:50pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Channel4 having wwe ppvs was the WORST decision ever made. I remember them not being live but never knew why until i looked it up last night.

They didn't know what they were getting apparently. So no one person in channel 4 towers had watched the product in the late nineties ?

I totally forgot this. They also used to show Heat on Sunday afternoons and I couldn't figure out why it was called Sunday night Heat!

Did they have an issue with the ppv content?

Omackeral · 29-09-2015 2:07pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Channel4 having wwe ppvs was the WORST decision ever made. I remember them not being live but never knew why until i looked it up last night.

They didn't know what they were getting apparently. So no one person in channel 4 towers had watched the product in the late nineties ?

They took ad breaks during Rumble entrances and all!

gerrybbadd · 29-09-2015 2:07pm

They used to have ad breaks as well, which were totally sickening

Mr.Nice Guy · 29-09-2015 2:14pm

Something that winds me up - when the Dudley Boyz do the Whassup move and the referee just stands there looking on. Ref, it's a low blow. Don't just stand there looking at it.

I like the move a lot, but I wish they would have the referee turn away while they do it. I was under the impression this is what happened when they did the move during their first run in WWE. That the ref's back would be turned while they did it. But maybe I'm mistaken.

It just really takes me out of enjoying a match when I see a ref standing there looking at D-Von headbutting a guy in the BALLS.

deadybai · 29-09-2015 2:18pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Something that winds me up - when the Dudley Boyz do the Whassup move and the referee just stands there looking on. Ref, it's a low blow. Don't just stand there looking at it.

I like the move a lot, but I wish they would have the referee turn away while they do it. I was under the impression this is what happened when they did the move during their first run in WWE. That the ref's back would be turned while they did it. But maybe I'm mistaken.

It just really takes me out of enjoying a match when I see a ref standing there looking at D-Von headbutting a guy in the BALLS.

I think its meant to be in the lower abdomen thats why its legal.

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