Hurling Championship 2013

Mountainlad

Kilkenny have only one goal scored in their last 3 championship games. Incredible to think, would love to know when the last time that happened was!

homerjay2005

so does anybody have the next round of qualifier games and how the whole draw is shaping up?

is it tipp v kilkenny and waterford v wexford, with the 2 winners meating the 2 losers of the munster/leinster finals in the 1/4s or am i missing one round of fixtures?

nkay1985

Am I right in thinking that if Kilkenny beat Tipp next week, the game against Waterford will be their fourth in four weeks? The first Dublin game, the replay, next Saturday against Tipp and then the following week against Waterford (if they win).

Seems like an awful lot, doesn't it?

Mountainlad

homerjay2005 wrote: »

so does anybody have the next round of qualifier games and how the whole draw is shaping up?

is it tipp v kilkenny and waterford v wexford, with the 2 winners meating the 2 losers of the munster/leinster finals in the 1/4s or am i missing one round of fixtures?

No it's Clare v Laois in Ennis and Kilkenny v Tipperary in Nowlan Park.

If Clare win, then they play Wexford and the winner of the other game plays Waterford. If Laois win however, there will be an open draw (though Wexford and Waterford cannot play each other).

Mountainlad

nkay1985 wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that if Kilkenny beat Tipp next week, the game against Waterford will be their fourth in four weeks? The first Dublin game, the replay, next Saturday against Tipp and then the following week against Waterford (if they win).

Seems like an awful lot, doesn't it?

Exactly what Dublin had to deal with today, and they will now face Galway in the Leinster Final next weekend so they're out for the 5th weekend on the trot.

Two great weekends of Hurling coming up though, I'm fair excited

garv123

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Great performance from Carlow today coupled with a promising performance from Westmeath are good signs for the future of Hurling in the developing counties. The GAA cannot justify sending them back to the Christy Ring cup any more.

3-22 to 14 points is a promising performance these days?

17 point loss to a Waterford team that is no great team this year..

dastardly00

garv123 wrote: »

3-22 to 14 points is a promising performance these days?

17 point loss to a Waterford team that is no great team this year..

Yes Waterford blew them away in the end. But Westmeath were level with Waterford at half-time. That's what Frankie Lee was referring to.

nkay1985

Mountainlad wrote: »

Exactly what Dublin had to deal with today, and they will now face Galway in the Leinster Final next weekend so they're out for the 5th weekend on the trot.

Two great weekends of Hurling coming up though, I'm fair excited

Yeah it's hard to see how even the fittest teams can cope with that frequency of games.

Nolan Park will be mobbed next week. Will surely be a cracker.

We need one massive performance against the winner of that and the championship is wide open! Very exciting this year, in fairness.

KevIRL

Anyone writing off KK is nuts. Don't need to look too far back too see how quickly they can turn things round, they lost the opening 2 league games of the season and were a whisker away from losing the third to Clare, which would have meant a relegation play off. Instead they won every game thereafter and won the title.

Obviously a huge game next week for them but it's at home and if they do win they'll get such a boost they will be hard to stop after that

miss misty

Well done to the Dubs, massive win, can't wait till next week Leinster Final.

wirehairmax

After all the money that's been pumped into dublin hurling over the past number if years, it's about time they did something to justify the millions spent on them. The gaa executive will be delighted as the dubs who havnt bothered going to the hurling so far will now invade the hill 16 and claim it like they deserve it or something. Fair weather fans at their best. Pity as the knacker element who stand on the hill for the football will now jump on the hurling bandwagon.

homerjay2005

wirehairmax wrote: »

After all the money that's been pumped into dublin hurling over the past number if years, it's about time they did something to justify the millions spent on them. The gaa executive will be delighted as the dubs who havnt bothered going to the hurling so far will now invade the hill 16 and claim it like they deserve it or something. Fair weather fans at their best. Pity as the knacker element who stand on the hill for the football will now jump on the hurling bandwagon.

give it a rest will you, the Dubs have had a few big days out with the hurlers in the last few years and they never had much of a bandwagon element with them like the hurlers.

totally different kettle of fish.

Ando's Saggy Bottom

wirehairmax wrote: »

After all the money that's been pumped into dublin hurling over the past number if years, it's about time they did something to justify the millions spent on them. The gaa executive will be delighted as the dubs who havnt bothered going to the hurling so far will now invade the hill 16 and claim it like they deserve it or something. Fair weather fans at their best. Pity as the knacker element who stand on the hill for the football will now jump on the hurling bandwagon.

Every county in both codes attracts bigger numbers of fans when they play in bigger games. So what? Its a fact of life. Not sure where you got the idea its something confined to Dublin only. The mad scramble for All Ireland tickets in every county that makes the final is testament to that.

wirehairmax

Counties up and down the country can barely afford one or two full-time coaches yet how many full-time paid coaches are there in dublin? There are even many clubs in dublin paying coaches with money allocated from croke park. It stinks to the heavens. Every county should be given the same resources, then hurling would truly be promoted and flourish in more counties. Dublin are given preferential treatment at schools level as well by being allowed enter a combined team in the Leinster "a" grade. Why are there not other counties allowed to do this?

MrJoeSoap

wirehairmax wrote: »

Counties up and down the country can barely afford one or two full-time coaches yet how many full-time paid coaches are there in dublin? There are even many clubs in dublin paying coaches with money allocated from croke park. It stinks to the heavens. Every county should be given the same resources, then hurling would truly be promoted and flourish in more counties. Dublin are given preferential treatment at schools level as well by being allowed enter a combined team in the Leinster "a" grade. Why are there not other counties allowed to do this?

So a county with a population of 32,000 should be given the same funding as one with over a million? Didn't hear anyone complaining about the Dubs funding during the 71 years since we last beat KK... You'd swear we'd walked our way to back-to-back All Ireland's the way you're talking. Would you prefer if hurling stayed the way it was? 2013 is the first Leinster final without Kilkenny, Offaly or Wexford since 1948. Think about that for a minute.

Anyway...

Was at the game tonight, fifth Dubs game in five weeks (four hurling, one football), over 800km travelled in June. Incredible to think that we could go through June unbeaten the way the fixtures panned out over the month. 10/1 shots last week and 6/1 shots today, but outhurled Kilkenny today and deserved the win. Looking forward to the Leinster final next Sunday and a potential AI q-final or s-final after that. We've already guaranteed ourselves twice as many hurling championship games as last year, and that is a huge plus for the players and the fans. Some great perfomances again today from Rushe, Dotsy, Kelly and Michael Carton (our best player this year, imo).

And finally, the Kilkenny fans in Portlaoise this evening were excellent. Many of them came up to me to shake hands and congratulate us and wish us well for the rest of the year. I've done it enough with them over the years that for once it felt great to be on the other side of it. I'm sure we'll meet again soon, though hopefully not this year.

A very happy camper tonight.

garv123

garv123 wrote: »

3-22 to 14 points is a promising performance these days?

17 point loss to a Waterford team that is no great team this year..

According to RTE, the scoreline didnt tell the whole story and that they were level at half time. a 22 minute spell in the second half changed everything though and to be fair id hazard a guess that the real difference between big and small counties is that big counties can hurl for longer than small counties rather than better because they have bigger panels

MrJoeSoap

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

So a county with a population of 32,000 should be given the same funding as one with over a million? Didn't hear anyone complaining about the Dubs funding during the 71 years since we last beat KK... .

Tbf though there shouldnt be a gulf in the financial situation of counties either by mere virtue of population. They will have to come up with some way of redistributing income because it is highly unrealistic to expect small counties who attract minor sponsorships to compete with large counties with huge populations and commercial deals. Other than that they could also adopt a model where 'micro' sized counties like Laois and Carlow merge, etc

Orizio

wirehairmax wrote: »

Dublin are given preferential treatment at schools level as well by being allowed enter a combined team in the Leinster "a" grade. Why are there not other counties allowed to do this?

Agreed, you would never see the likes of Waterford or Limerick do this for example.

MrJoeSoap

Deleted User wrote: »

Tbf though there shouldnt be a gulf in the financial situation of counties either by mere virtue of population. They will have to come up with some way of redistributing income because it is highly unrealistic to expect small counties who attract minor sponsorships to compete with large counties with huge populations and commercial deals. Other than that they could also adopt a model where 'micro' sized counties like Laois and Carlow merge, etc

Probably wasn't the best argument (I've had a few) but I'm sick of people jumping on the funding argument when Dublin play well and get a good win. Either that or the "your players are all blow-ins" argument. No problem in discussing it, but no need for people to spoil a great victory with it, especially one against such a dominant county.

MrJoeSoap

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Probably wasn't the best argument (I've had a few) but I'm sick of people jumping on the funding argument when Dublin play well and get a good win. Either that or the "your players are all blow-ins" argument. No problem in discussing it, but no need for people to spoil a great victory with it, especially one against such a dominant county.

Im hardly making that argument considering Dublin still have a bit to go before they cant be considered a hurling force in any shape or form and believe you me while the spirit is admirable in their side i think they can delay putting out the bunting until the third week of September at least for now

Not citing Dublin per se but i do think overall in the GAA that there needs to be some form of Financial balance and if that meant that my own county Tipperary were to give some of their revenue to a weak county in need (albeit indirectly through a redistribution system) then so be it.

MrJoeSoap

Deleted User wrote: »

Im hardly making that argument considering Dublin still have a bit to go before they cant be considered a hurling force in any shape or form and believe you me while the spirit is admirable in their side i think they can delay putting out the bunting until the third week of September at least for now

Was referring to the other post, not yourself. Anyway, speaking of Tipp, best of luck to Matthew Macklin tonight.

grenache

Havent seen the highlights so cant say too much other than to congratulate Dublin on a well merited win. Even with the injuries to key players like Shefflin, Murphy, etc, Kilkenny have such a depth of talent that means they should be well capable of beating Dublin. They play nothing else in the county and their second fifteen would be better than most counties' first. The fact that Dublin won, and were the better side in both matches, tells us they were the hungrier of the two teams.

And you can't bate hunger!

Well done the Dubs.

Realt Dearg Sec

wirehairmax wrote: »

Counties up and down the country can barely afford one or two full-time coaches yet how many full-time paid coaches are there in dublin? There are even many clubs in dublin paying coaches with money allocated from croke park. It stinks to the heavens. Every county should be given the same resources, then hurling would truly be promoted and flourish in more counties. Dublin are given preferential treatment at schools level as well by being allowed enter a combined team in the Leinster "a" grade. Why are there not other counties allowed to do this?

There is so much evidence here that you don't know what you're talking about, that engaging in a debate would be worse than a waste of time, because you've so clearly made up your mind based on evidence plucked straight from where Anglo got their bailout figures. And I'm from Kilkenny so its not like I'm just defending Dublin

Annuv

grenache wrote: »

Havent seen the highlights so cant say too much other than to congratulate Dublin on a well merited win. Even with the injuries to key players like Shefflin, Murphy, etc, Kilkenny have such a depth of talent that means they should be well capable of beating Dublin. They play nothing else in the county and their second fifteen would be better than most counties' first. The fact that Dublin won, and were the better side in both matches, tells us they were the hungrier of the two teams.

And you can't bate hunger!

Well done the Dubs.

This is completely wrong and shows that you clearly haven't a clue about what goes on in Kilkenny city and county. Educate yourself a little

Stinicker

A cute move by that cynic Cody to lose today and that is exactly what it was a deliberate loss nothing more or less. Kilkenny will now get to hammer Tipperary before they get time to improve via the qualifiers and then Kilkenny will be laughing all the way to steps of the Hogan stand while idiot pundits laud Cody for a historic turn around etc. when it was all pre-planned that way. Anyone who thinks Kilkenny are this bad as to be beaten by Dublin need to look at the stats. This result also shows the contempt Cody has for the farcical Leinster Championship. Congrats to Dublin on the win but you will realise later on that you were used as pawns on the greater hurling chessboard and the only real hope for hurling salvation lies with Cork and with the GAA itself as I think it is an absolute disgrace that the reigning All-Ireland champions are allowed benefit from the back door rule to allow them to win the All-Ireland successively if they have previously been beaten.

johnnyfruitcake

Stinicker wrote: »

A cute move by that cynic Cody to lose today and that is exactly what it was a deliberate loss nothing more or less. Kilkenny will now get to hammer Tipperary before they get time to improve via the qualifiers and then Kilkenny will be laughing all the way to steps of the Hogan stand while idiot pundits laud Cody for a historic turn around etc. when it was all pre-planned that way. Anyone who thinks Kilkenny are this bad as to be beaten by Dublin need to look at the stats. This result also shows the contempt Cody has for the farcical Leinster Championship. Congrats to Dublin on the win but you will realise later on that you were used as pawns on the greater hurling chessboard and the only real hope for hurling salvation lies with Cork and with the GAA itself as I think it is an absolute disgrace that the reigning All-Ireland champions are allowed benefit from the back door rule to allow them to win the All-Ireland successively if they have previously been beaten.

So why waste time then and bother to draw last week?
Are you drunk?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Tipp KK winners will win it out imo. Traditionally The Holy Trinity don't fear anyone but each other. I don't see Cork being contenders this year however.

Stinicker

johnnyfruitcake wrote: »

So why waste time then and bother to draw last week?
Are you drunk?

That was for show and was like a mere training match, drawing that game served to add more reality to Dublin's win. Have no doubt but Kilkenny sat out to lose to Dublin on purpose to further their Championship ambitions and do some giant killing along the way before said giants get too powerful.

Professey Chin

johnnyfruitcake wrote: »

So why waste time then and bother to draw last week?
Are you drunk?

Stinicker wrote: »

That was for show and was like a mere training match, drawing that game served to add more reality to Dublin's win. Have no doubt but Kilkenny sat out to lose to Dublin on purpose to further their Championship ambitions and do some giant killing along the way before said giants get too powerful.

Yep. Definitely drunk

nlgbbbblth

Stinicker wrote: »

A cute move by that cynic Cody to lose today and that is exactly what it was a deliberate loss nothing more or less. Kilkenny will now get to hammer Tipperary before they get time to improve via the qualifiers and then Kilkenny will be laughing all the way to steps of the Hogan stand while idiot pundits laud Cody for a historic turn around etc. when it was all pre-planned that way. Anyone who thinks Kilkenny are this bad as to be beaten by Dublin need to look at the stats. This result also shows the contempt Cody has for the farcical Leinster Championship. Congrats to Dublin on the win but you will realise later on that you were used as pawns on the greater hurling chessboard and the only real hope for hurling salvation lies with Cork and with the GAA itself as I think it is an absolute disgrace that the reigning All-Ireland champions are allowed benefit from the back door rule to allow them to win the All-Ireland successively if they have previously been beaten.

Yeah. I know - my own county Wexford did the same. Deliberately lost to Dublin in the replay and made it look like Carlow were going to shock them before pulling it out of the bag in the last couple of minutes. All done to give other counties a false sense of security. :rolleyes:

Charlie69

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

So a county with a population of 32,000 should be given the same funding as one with over a million? Didn't hear anyone complaining about the Dubs funding during the 71 years since we last beat KK... You'd swear we'd walked our way to back-to-back All Ireland's the way you're talking. Would you prefer if hurling stayed the way it was? 2013 is the first Leinster final without Kilkenny, Offaly or Wexford since 1948. Think about that for a minute.

Anyway...

Was at the game tonight, fifth Dubs game in five weeks (four hurling, one football), over 800km travelled in June. Incredible to think that we could go through June unbeaten the way the fixtures panned out over the month. 10/1 shots last week and 6/1 shots today, but outhurled Kilkenny today and deserved the win. Looking forward to the Leinster final next Sunday and a potential AI q-final or s-final after that. We've already guaranteed ourselves twice as many hurling championship games as last year, and that is a huge plus for the players and the fans. Some great perfomances again today from Rushe, Dotsy, Kelly and Michael Carton (our best player this year, imo).

And finally, the Kilkenny fans in Portlaoise this evening were excellent. Many of them came up to me to shake hands and congratulate us and wish us well for the rest of the year. I've done it enough with them over the years that for once it felt great to be on the other side of it. I'm sure we'll meet again soon, though hopefully not this year.

A very happy camper tonight.

Thought all the Dublin backs were very good last night but Rush was immense and P Schutte was brilliant,Huge credit due to A Daly for well executed game plan

Chabals Beard

The two B league finalist beating the two A league finalist.. great for the game.. great having a lot of the Munster championship games on in the Gaelic Grounds, the open stand is one of the best places to watch a game.

dastardly00

Stinicker wrote: »

A cute move by that cynic Cody to lose today and that is exactly what it was a deliberate loss nothing more or less. Kilkenny will now get to hammer Tipperary before they get time to improve via the qualifiers and then Kilkenny will be laughing all the way to steps of the Hogan stand while idiot pundits laud Cody for a historic turn around etc. when it was all pre-planned that way. Anyone who thinks Kilkenny are this bad as to be beaten by Dublin need to look at the stats. This result also shows the contempt Cody has for the farcical Leinster Championship. Congrats to Dublin on the win but you will realise later on that you were used as pawns on the greater hurling chessboard and the only real hope for hurling salvation lies with Cork and with the GAA itself as I think it is an absolute disgrace that the reigning All-Ireland champions are allowed benefit from the back door rule to allow them to win the All-Ireland successively if they have previously been beaten.

dzer2

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

So a county with a population of 32,000 should be given the same funding as one with over a million? Didn't hear anyone complaining about the Dubs funding during the 71 years since we last beat KK... You'd swear we'd walked our way to back-to-back All Ireland's the way you're talking. Would you prefer if hurling stayed the way it was? 2013 is the first Leinster final without Kilkenny, Offaly or Wexford since 1948. Think about that for a minute.

Anyway...

Was at the game tonight, fifth Dubs game in five weeks (four hurling, one football), over 800km travelled in June. Incredible to think that we could go through June unbeaten the way the fixtures panned out over the month. 10/1 shots last week and 6/1 shots today, but outhurled Kilkenny today and deserved the win. Looking forward to the Leinster final next Sunday and a potential AI q-final or s-final after that. We've already guaranteed ourselves twice as many hurling championship games as last year, and that is a huge plus for the players and the fans. Some great perfomances again today from Rushe, Dotsy, Kelly and Michael Carton (our best player this year, imo).

And finally, the Kilkenny fans in Portlaoise this evening were excellent. Many of them came up to me to shake hands and congratulate us and wish us well for the rest of the year. I've done it enough with them over the years that for once it felt great to be on the other side of it. I'm sure we'll meet again soon, though hopefully not this year.

A very happy camper tonight.

It was a great game to attend last night the atmosphere was great two sets of supporters roaring on their team no jeering or goading like other fans. I hope Dublin dont treat that as their AI and fall flat next week. Hurling is alive and well in leinster. I was one of the kilkenny supporters wishing you well for next week and the reat of the summer have loads of friends that are dublin hurling followers and they have always being gracious in defeat.

Mullet

wirehairmax wrote: »

After all the money that's been pumped into dublin hurling over the past number if years, it's about time they did something to justify the millions spent on them. The gaa executive will be delighted as the dubs who havnt bothered going to the hurling so far will now invade the hill 16 and claim it like they deserve it or something. Fair weather fans at their best. Pity as the knacker element who stand on the hill for the football will now jump on the hurling bandwagon.

All this whiniging is really sad. The reality is the Dublin County Board or those that cared about hurling drew up a blue print to invest in the grass roots of hurling in Dublin it must be 10-15 years ago and it's been a long long path. There still lots more work to do as most of the decent hurlers are still declaring for the footballers.

I think your listening to much to your manager as some of the stuff he came out with over the two games with us was was really embarrassing.

I was there last night and the genuine best wishes we got from Kilkenny supporters after the game means a lot.

Yes we will get the bandwagon supporters but doesn't everyone. I stand on the hill I'm not a knacker neither are my friends and your remarks are quite insulting and childish.

Rightwing

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purplepanda

Wexford 150/1 :eek:

I really don't see any improvement in the Wexford seniors since John Meyler lost his managers job in '08. At least we got to the AI semi's one year & lost to Waterford in a close game by a point the next under Meyler despite taking beatings from KK in Leinster.

He almost beat us yesterday managing a Carlow team playing well by all accounts.

Bonner was a total disaster for 3 years, Liam Dunne has a hard job trying to move the team forward since.

Some young talent coming through but we are years away still. Dublin have obviously moved on since the drawn game but Wexford don't appear to be.

It's years since we beat any side of note, in the championship, Offaly in '09. We are not in the top 10 hurling counties any more IMO.

All I'm hoping for is not to get slaughtered next time And we don't give up to the very end of the game. :mad:

Stinicker

Stinicker wrote: »

A cute move by that cynic Cody to lose today and that is exactly what it was a deliberate loss nothing more or less. Kilkenny will now get to hammer Tipperary before they get time to improve via the qualifiers and then Kilkenny will be laughing all the way to steps of the Hogan stand while idiot pundits laud Cody for a historic turn around etc. when it was all pre-planned that way. Anyone who thinks Kilkenny are this bad as to be beaten by Dublin need to look at the stats. This result also shows the contempt Cody has for the farcical Leinster Championship. Congrats to Dublin on the win but you will realise later on that you were used as pawns on the greater hurling chessboard and the only real hope for hurling salvation lies with Cork and with the GAA itself as I think it is an absolute disgrace that the reigning All-Ireland champions are allowed benefit from the back door rule to allow them to win the All-Ireland successively if they have previously been beaten.

:rolleyes:

Sobered up yet???

Honestly mate read your early morning rant again and just evaluate the level of ridiculousness. Brian Cody has won 11 Leinster titles so how in gods name in the year 2013 when he has been in the Kilkenny job almost 15 years would he suddenly begin to show 'contempt' toward the competition?

And to be honest i dont know any team who wouldnt want to come through the front door and straight into the semi's ideally.

howiya

Important to note on the funding issue that clubs have to fund half (I think) of their Games Promotions Officer's wages.

Money isn't just thrown at these boys. Clubs have to fundraise to invest in their future. I personally don't see anything wrong with it.

The GAA and Leinster Council would be lost without the money Dublin put into the association in terms of ticket revenue. So what if some of it is invested into the grass roots of our sports in Dublin?

Revenue redistribution doesn't make sense either. It only penalises the forward thinking county boards who work very hard on maximising their sponsorship income. Sure the lads in smaller counties wouldn't bother their hole getting a sponsor if they knew they were getting a piece of Dublin's deal with Vodafone or whoever replaces them next year.

howiya

howiya wrote: »

Important to note on the funding issue that clubs have to fund half (I think) of their Games Promotions Officer's wages.

Money isn't just thrown at these boys. Clubs have to fundraise to invest in their future. I personally don't see anything wrong with it.

The GAA and Leinster Council would be lost without the money Dublin put into the association in terms of ticket revenue. So what if some of it is invested into the grass roots of our sports in Dublin?

Revenue redistribution doesn't make sense either. It only penalises the forward thinking county boards who work very hard on maximising their sponsorship income. Sure the lads in smaller counties wouldn't bother their hole getting a sponsor if they knew they were getting a piece of Dublin's deal with Vodafone or whoever replaces them next year.

Thats the other side of the coin i suppose to be fair to you. I dont think anyone is suggesting its unfair that Dublin draw so much revenue but surely the association has to take some measures to address imbalances? Perhaps taking a percentage of commercial revenues would be unjust but the big issue here is that the game needs competitiveness. A small county that are already trying to swim against the tide needs some assistance and its unfair that talented lads from these counties will never get the chance to win an All Ireland medal while more will by a simple matter of geography

garv123

Deleted User wrote: »

According to RTE, the scoreline didnt tell the whole story and that they were level at half time. a 22 minute spell in the second half changed everything though and to be fair id hazard a guess that the real difference between big and small counties is that big counties can hurl for longer than small counties rather than better because they have bigger panels

And they had a strong wind at their backs according to the sunday game and waterford started off slow and sluggish.

Losing by that much can not be called promising when its against a team that didnt make it past the munster first round.

chinguetti

Was at it, Waterford were poor in the first half and it wasn't due to the wind. They were very sloppy, the touch was poor and seemed to be stuck to the ground. Shanahan's frees and Seamus Prendergast's play kept them in it. Westmeath could have had a goal when Liam Lawlor handpassed the ball across the goal.

Second half they were a lot more urgency in the way they moved the ball and the wind helped. Whoever we get the next day, it will finally show how far we have travelled and how far more we have to go.

garv123

chinguetti wrote: »

Was at it, Waterford were poor in the first half and it wasn't due to the wind. They were very sloppy, the touch was poor and seemed to be stuck to the ground. Shanahan's frees and Seamus Prendergast's play kept them in it. Westmeath could have had a goal when Liam Lawlor handpassed the ball across the goal.

Second half they were a lot more urgency in the way they moved the ball and the wind helped. Whoever we get the next day, it will finally show how far we have travelled and how far more we have to go.

You'd think LL would learn from his mistakes against offaly when he did that.. guess not.

KingEnda

I was at the Dublin V Kilkenny game, the Dubs are looking good but hopefully they are not peeking too soon.
Must check the ods for the Dubs doing the Double this year

Sergeant

howiya wrote: »

Revenue redistribution doesn't make sense either. It only penalises the forward thinking county boards who work very hard on maximising their sponsorship income. Sure the lads in smaller counties wouldn't bother their hole getting a sponsor if they knew they were getting a piece of Dublin's deal with Vodafone or whoever replaces them next year.

Is there a breakdown of where the GAA distributes money towards the development of hurling? As a Galway man living in Dublin I can see how hurling has exploded in the city over the past 10 years. It's thriving in the city.

Carlow, Laois and Westmeath have gone out this year and put up good performances. All doing well at under-age level. The input of money has to be proportional to the number of clubs and the population density of the county.

Hurling has suffered from being the 'minority' sport in most counties for over 70 years now. Rebuilding the sport in those counties who don't have a tradition isn't something that will happen in 5-10-15 years. It requires a culture of wanting to play, and loving the sport at school, club and county level.

marco_polo

KingEnda wrote: »

I was at the Dublin V Kilkenny game, the Dubs are looking good but hopefully they are not peeking too soon.
Must check the ods for the Dubs doing the Double this year

I don't think going into the Provincial final hurling well its a place to be in, and who says they have even peaked yet .

Fatigue will probably be their biggest challenge next weekend especially since winning it will require a third top class display in the space of three weeks. But if they can get over that (and a shot at first Leinster title since 1961 will help massively in that regard) they will have a nice long break to the semis, and will be real live contenders to win it all.

Dubliner28

Dublin 2 games away from an AI final. Who would have taught that after last year. Of course Galway will be another massive massive test, our 5th game in 5 weeks. Will be close and could go either way.

A nice bet for the weekend is a Tipp 6/5 and Dublin 7/4 double ??

MrJoeSoap

Dubliner28 wrote: »

Dublin 2 games away from an AI final. Who would have taught that after last year. Of course Galway will be another massive massive test, our 5th game in 5 weeks. Will be close and could go either way.

A nice bet for the weekend is a Tipp 6/5 and Dublin 7/4 double ??

6/4 and 2/1 with Ladbrokes if you are doing it. Always pays to shop around, €15 extra returns off a tenner double.

Dubliner28

Thanks will go in a lunch time.

Worth a tenner

Red Crow

Wouldn't have Dublin in an All-Ireland final tbh. I know it's only potentially two games away but I think Galway will have the better of them and if the meet KK with Shefflin and Fennelly or Tipp on a high after beating the Cats then I can't see Dublin getting to an All-Ireland. I also think Limerick and Cork would have better players than Dublin.