Wicklow 200

RosieJoe

Just a heads up to all, the Wicklow 200 is on this weekend so expect loads of cyclists out and about. Here is their route.
Might need to do this ourselves over the next while

Zascar

God I hate cyclists....

prunudo

RosieJoe wrote: »

Just a heads up to all, the Wicklow 200 is on this weekend so expect loads of cyclists out and about. Here is their route.
Might need to do this ourselves over the next while

That be a nice route, plenty of choice for stopping along the way.

Max Headroom

Zascar wrote: »

God I hate cyclists....

You know theyre like rodents...you can run over them if no-one's around...............:D

Peanut2011

Zascar wrote: »

God I hate cyclists....

+1

The arrogance of most of them doing their spins around those parts is just unbelievable.

rat_race

Peanut2011 wrote: »

+1

The arrogance of most of them doing their spins around those parts is just unbelievable.

I hope that is sarcasm...

Zascar, why do you hate cyclists?

rat_race

RosieJoe wrote: »

Just a heads up to all, the Wicklow 200 is on this weekend so expect loads of cyclists out and about. Here is their route.
Might need to do this ourselves over the next while

I am doing the Wicklow 200. Thanks for mentioning this...

prunudo

rat_race wrote: »

I am doing the Wicklow 200. Thanks for mentioning this...

Was thinking of doing the 100 but time got away and never put the training in. What kind of time will the 200 take you?

rat_race

jvan wrote: »

Was thinking of doing the 100 but time got away and never put the training in. What kind of time will the 200 take you?

Will be happy if I can do it in under 9 hours rolling...Did it two years ago and am more prepared this time, so should be okay.

Yeah, training for it is hard, requires some 5/6 hour spins...helps to have a partner or something so you're kinda forced to keep arrangements!

prunudo

9 hours, you'll want your padded shorts for that! Lets hope the weather isn't as warm and sunny as today. You'll need a lot of fluids as it is.

RosieJoe

rat_race wrote: »

I am doing the Wicklow 200. Thanks for mentioning this...

Saw the route on mapmywalk, some steep climbs ahead of you! Best of luck with it

Zascar

Cycling two abreast on small roads not letting cars pass. Drives me nuts. The amount of times I've been backed up for miles as they simply refuse to budge. No reason why they can't tuck in single file the odd time and let the cars pass. Whenever I see I bike I am extra careful as cars seems to do stupid things to try to pass them. Don't get me wrong it's not all cyclists - I've done plenty of cycling and mountain biking in my time, about to buy a new pushbike actually - but personally no matter what vehicle I'm on I try to be courteous to other road users. A lot of them don't seem to give a **** and happy to let huge tailbacks form behind them as they take over most of the road.

Max Headroom

Zascar wrote: »

Cycling two abreast (only 2) on small roads not letting cars pass. Drives me nuts. The amount of times I've been backed up for miles as they simply refuse to budge. No reason why they can't tuck in single file the odd time and let the cars pass.(that would be giving in ) Whenever I see I bike I am extra careful as cars seems to do stupid things to try to pass them. Don't get me wrong it's not all cyclists (it really is) - I've done plenty of cycling and mountain biking in my time, about to buy a new pushbike actually - but personally no matter what vehicle I'm on I try to be courteous to other road users. A lot of them don't seem to give a **** and happy to let huge tailbacks form behind them as they take over most of the road.(that'll be the lycra brigade)[/QUOTE]

When they start obeying the rules of the road and pay road tax, then i'll accept them...otherwise i'll carry on hating them..(unless i get a bike..!!!!

Peanut2011

Max Headroom wrote: »

When they start obeying the rules of the road and pay road tax, then i'll accept them...otherwise i'll carry on hating them..(unless i get a bike..!!!!

All apart the road tax! What is that?

prunudo

Ah Rosie, look what you've started

KamiKazi

Peanut2011 wrote: »

All apart the road tax! What is that?

You know what he meant. Are you a lyrcrist cyclist?

Peanut2011

KamiKazi wrote: »

Are you a lyrcrist cyclist?

Hell NO!

Max Headroom

KamiKazi wrote: »

You know what he meant. Are you a lyrcrist cyclist?

Lycrist......love it....:D:D:D

Was in Laragh a couple of weeks ago, usual sunday morning, lycrists everywhere bothering everyone...guy on a big cruiser came to a stop outside the cafe, cyclist behind him had to stop quickly to avoid a rear entry...didnt have time to get his feet out of the pedals before stopping, and fell over like an old oak...but in kinda slow-motion...funniest thing i've seen in ages...:D....he wasnt hurt btw..

Zascar

Oh one thing I forgot. Complete disregard for traffic lights. They just seem to sail through red lights as if they are not there - I see it time and time again every day on my commute to work. I've nearly milled a few out of it in my time when they break the light at a junction. Cyclists seem to think they operate on a totally different set of rules of the road.

Wonda-Boy

Females cyclists in lyrca....RULE!

Max Headroom

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Females cyclists in lyrca....RULE!

Not the ones i've seen............yikes:eek:

Zascar

Wonda-Boy

Max Headroom wrote: »

Not the ones i've seen............yikes:eek:

Not the ones in the GYM losing the christmas selection boxes....out in the middle of no where giving it socks. They are well tasty fit wimmen!

galwaytt

I go marshalling for bike events every week - twice a week sometimes. I did find at the beginning that there were no rules, basically, but in recent times it has improved.

Yes there's still lots of them out there - when there's say, 60 bikes out together, 2 x 2 isn't going to endear them to anyone either, due to the length of the peleton.

Either way the local club have had to lay down the law lately, as it was only a matter of time before there was an incident or near-miss that would cause an issue. Bear in mind a lot of the roads we use, despite having a white line down the middle (bloody joke) are barely3m - 4m wide - two cars can barely pass on them as-is. So, for race events now, cross that white line and you're disqualified.

They thought the club weren't serious. Signs by, first eve out under the new rules, the local favourite does it and him and his compadre were disqualified straight away - can't say they weren't told. They won't make that mistake again..............

On a related note, I found that attending cars and my bike, driving around with our hazards on, only confused people, really. So, my bike is modded with proper ER LED's front and rear, and as you can see, written up with signage as well.

Kudos to all the other road users who accomodate us btw, at the end of the day a bike race will be gone past a particular point in seconds.

paddy147

Heres a qustion for you.


What happens if theres a crash between a car and a bike whos in a race or cycling 2 abreast on the road?

Who would be deemed to be at fault?

paddy147

Zascar wrote: »

You will see plenty of that today and tomorrow if you go down onto the cycle path from Clontarf all the way out to Sutton Strand.

22 degreec,hot sunny weather and not many clothes on aswell....:pac::D

rat_race

There are jerks everywhere on the road, doesn't matter what they are driving/riding/cycling.

There are as many misbehaving bikers/motorists on the road as there are cyclists, with much more potential to cause havoc.

I drive cars, motorbikes and I also cycle a sh!t load, I've seen it all a bazillion times. I'd recommend any road user to try cycling, motorbiking, cars, etc. It makes you a much better road user in general. Generalising a particular group is just empty-headed, IMO.

When I'm cycling, I can usually tell from the way a car approaches and overtakes me, whether the driver is a cyclist or not, or whether they've even been on a bike in the last 15 years -- seriously. Those who haven't been on a bicycle, are dangerous, inconsiderate and totally detached from what's going on outside their cage (wind, rain, poor roads, obstacles, loose gravel chippings, noise, etc...).

I'd rather see nobody on the roads, ever, except me. Failing that, I'd rather more bicycles than motorbikes, and I'd rather more motorbikes than cars. Giving out about cyclists as a whole is just retarded unless you'd rather they all drove their cars -- which is equally retarded.

paddy147

I dont see many cars who decide to just drive off through a red light.

Same with motorbikes,vans,trucks and buses.


They stay stopped at the red light,when its red.



So why does a cyclist think its ok,to just start up cycling again and purposely go through a red light???


Do red lights not apply to cyclists too??


Surey the rules of the road apply to cyclists too??

rat_race

paddy147 wrote: »

I dont see many cars who decide to just drive off through a red light.

Same with motorbikes,vans,trucks and buses.


They stay stopped at the red light,when its red.



So why does a cyclist think its ok,to just start up cycling again and purposely go through a red light???


Do red lights not apply to cyclists too??


Surey the rules of the road apply to cyclists too??

If that's a response to me, then you're totally missing the point. Not getting into it, some people are logical, some are not. All I will say is that there are more rules of the road than "thou shalt not break a red light".

Leroy42

paddy147 wrote: »

Heres a qustion for you.


What happens if theres a crash between a car and a bike whos in a race or cycling 2 abreast on the road?

Who would be deemed to be at fault?

In a race scenario, depends entirely on the what happened. If the cyclists was on the other side of the road, then fault will lay partially with the cyclist and particularly with the car. The cyclists obviously should have been on the correct side, but the car should have been aware of approaching situation (lead car, other cyclists etc) and taken appropriate action to try to minimise the chance of an accident.

In the two abreast scenario, well that is entirely the drivers fault (assuming that 2 abreast on the correct side and all other rules complied with) as the rles as the road clearly state that two abreast is legal

rat_race

Leroy42 wrote: »

In a race scenario, depends entirely on the what happened. If the cyclists was on the other side of the road, then fault will lay partially with the cyclist and particularly with the car. The cyclists obviously should have been on the correct side, but the car should have been aware of approaching situation (lead car, other cyclists etc) and taken appropriate action to try to minimise the chance of an accident.

In the two abreast scenario, well that is entirely the drivers fault (assuming that 2 abreast on the correct side and all other rules complied with) as the rles as the road clearly state that two abreast is legal

Yes. A car should not overtake a cyclist, or group of cyclists, unless it is safe to do so and without crossing a continuous white line. It's that simple.

And "safe" means a number of things, which a lot of motorists seem to forget once they've passed their test.

Just because a car can go faster than a bicycle, that doesn't give it the right to do so if it puts anyone at risk.