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04-06-2013 8:39pm#1
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I'd go with the Dobie. I have experience of the breed having owned two and my father also had one. They are great dogs, but it is VERY important to check out the breeder and get a good look at the pup before you take it.
If you're getting a Dobie, then I wouldn't get a rescue one. Get a puppy you can train and bring up right.
Dobies are super smart. Mine - you only had to show him something once and he'd get it. Socialisation and good, structured training is key. If you don't train the Dobie and socialise him from the get go, there'll be a host of problems later...
Unfortunately, the life span of a Dobie isn't a long one. If the dog lives 10 years, you're lucky
. They are prone to cancer and heart problems later on in life. Funny, but both of mine died of heart attacks, and my father's dog had cancer... 0 -
ABajaninCork wrote: »I'd go with the Dobie. I have experience of the breed having owned two and my father also had one. They are great dogs, but it is VERY important to check out the breeder and get a good look at the pup before you take it.
If you're getting a Dobie, then I wouldn't get a rescue one. Get a puppy you can train and bring up right.
Dobies are super smart. Mine - you only had to show him something once and he'd get it. Socialisation and good, structured training is key. If you don't train the Dobie and socialise him from the get go, there'll be a host of problems later...
Unfortunately, the life span of a Dobie isn't a long one. If the dog lives 10 years, you're lucky. They are prone to cancer and heart problems later on in life. Funny, but both of mine died of heart attacks, and my father's dog had cancer...
Similar to the boxer so with regard to health issues. I will take it under consideration, like I said at the moment I am leaning towards the dobie but that of course could change. I would like to get one without a docked tail if possible, my boxer has a docked tail and I wish he didn't do if I am going I for another docked breed I will be asking the breeder not to dock.0 -
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Dogue De Bordeaux - But I'm biased
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Sorry I am never going to get the hang of posting a pic but if you click on the second link it should work
Can you give me a bit more info about the breed, health problems anything prospective owners should be aware of?
Beautiful dog by the way
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You're posting it as a web link (earth globe) rather then image (mountain with yellow background).Dogue De Bordeaux - But I'm biased
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Sorry I am never going to get the hang of posting a pic but if you click on the second link it should work
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Oh yeah I forgot to mention the drool. My guy only drools after he has had a drink or is realyl warm. A towel beside his water bowl and a quick wipe does the trick with us. If he's going to be outside most of the time when eating and drinking you won't need to worry about that.0
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meoklmrk91 wrote: »I've never a met a dogo, I have of course heard bad things about them, not that that would phase me as you can see by my list of prospective breed. I have noticed though that it seems to be a certain type of owner that they seem to attract. Could you tell me a bit more about the breed? Health issues, behavioural issues, are they stubborn? How easy is it to find a good, repsonsible breeder?
What bad things did you hear?
I take offence to the bold bit.
No, seriously maybe in America or places that have loads of them but not here. Every breeder I know in Ireland has a strict screening process with potential owners. There are a Dogo's that we've came across on places like done deal and the like but I'd be highly suspicious about them being 100% Dogo.
Having the breed is a pleasure to own IF you can spare a few hours a day for exercise. Training from day 1 is a must. A dogo must know its . Consistency is the key with training because they can be a bit stubborn, stay consistent and it will be fine. I've had zero problems with training. They can not be left on there own for long periods of time. Brilliant around people in its own family, especially kids. My dogo and nephews are a joy to watch. When they are young pups there was a small bit of dog aggression but they have grown out of it unless another dog comes running over barking in his face then you better be able to stay calm and be physically able to control a 100lb+ dog of solid muscle. As a guard/watch dog their appearance should be enough to keep unwanted people away but if its not they will step up without hesitation.
There aren't a lot of health issues because the breed is only 100 years old and mostly kept as a functional working dog but deafness is a problem in some but tests should sort that out and with large breeds hip dysplasia can be a problem.
Responsible breeders in Ireland are hard to find because there is only a few but its doable.
Saying all that it is a pretty serious dog and if you aren't used to large, extremely powerful dogs it might be best to stay away. Also, because of their high pray drive I'd stay away from dog parks and such after about 6 months.
Nice video! Any more questions just ask.
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BillyMitchel wrote: »What bad things did you hear?
I take offence to the bold bit. No, seriously maybe in America or places that have loads of them but not here. Every breeder I know in Ireland has a strict screening process with potential owners. There are a Dogo's that we've came across on places like done deal and the like but I'd be highly suspicious about them being 100% Dogo.
Having the breed is a pleasure to own IF you can spare a few hours a day for exercise. Training from day 1 is a must. A dogo must know its . Consistency is the key with training because they can be a bit stubborn, stay consistent and it will be fine. I've had zero problems with training. They can not be left on there own for long periods of time. Brilliant around people in its own family, especially kids. My dogo and nephews are a joy to watch. When they are young pups there was a small bit of dog aggression but they have grown out of it unless another dog comes running over barking in his face then you better be able to stay calm and be physically able to control a 100lb+ dog of solid muscle. As a guard/watch dog their appearance should be enough to keep unwanted people away but if its not they will step up without hesitation.
There aren't a lot of health issues because the breed is only 100 years old and mostly kept as a functional working dog but deafness is a problem in some but tests should sort that out and with large breeds hip dysplasia can be a problem.
Responsible breeders in Ireland are hard to find because there is only a few but its doable.
Saying all that it is a pretty serious dog and if you aren't used to large, extremely powerful dogs it might be best to stay away. Also, because of their high pray drive I'd stay away from dog parks and such after about 6 months.
Nice video! Any more questions just ask.
Hey Billy,
There are a few unresponsible breeders around the place, who would sell to the type of owners that have given rotties, staffies etc. their "bad" name.I only ever properly knew one person with a dogo and he was "guard dog", no social interaction, no exercise, just shelter, food, water and the four walls of the backyard to stare at. I've never met anyone who had one as a family pet.
Your post was really informative, I will put the dogo on my longlist. This is going to be a pretty lengthy process, it will be at least 6 months before I am ready to even start looking for a breeder so I have plenty of time to consider the positives and negatives of each breed. Thanks very much 0 -
meoklmrk91 wrote: »Hey Billy,
There are a few unresponsible breeders around the place, who would sell to the type of owners that have given rotties, staffies etc. their "bad" name.I only ever properly knew one person with a dogo and he was "guard dog", no social interaction, no exercise, just shelter, food, water and the four walls of the backyard to stare at. I've never met anyone who had one as a family pet.
Your post was really informative, I will put the dogo on my longlist. This is going to be a pretty lengthy process, it will be at least 6 months before I am ready to even start looking for a breeder so I have plenty of time to consider the positives and negatives of each breed. Thanks very much
No probs, I could talk Dogo all day every day! 6 months will fly by I had to wait 8 years for a dogo and was just by complete fluke I met a breeder! I was actually pretty close to going with a Neo or DDB at the time.
As you said about the guard dog part, even though he is a big loving family pet to my family he is still a 100% serious guard dog and some care has to be taken when strangers come in and there is not a hope in hell you could come in unannounced. It's part of the breed, its in the standard, its part of what they are. As a guard dog he's right up there with some of the Turkish Kangals and the couple of Caucasian Ovtcharkas I've came across on my adventures.
Just out of interest, I see an APBT was on your list. Were you going to adopt, buy here or import? Word of caution BYB have ruined the pit bull in this country, I wouldn't even consider looking at adverts or sites in Ireland. Stafford is pretty much going the same way. 15inch barrell of fat is what most of them are these days but still some good staffords but probably best looking to the UK TBH. Depends what you want. There was a lad on here that used to post, no idea if he still does and he has a beautiful Irish Staffy.0 -
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BillyMitchel wrote: »No probs, I could talk Dogo all day every day! 6 months will fly by I had to wait 8 years for a dogo and was just by complete fluke I met a breeder! I was actually pretty close to going with a Neo or DDB at the time.
As you said about the guard dog part, even though he is a big loving family pet to my family he is still a 100% serious guard dog and some care has to be taken when strangers come in and there is not a hope in hell you could come in unannounced. It's part of the breed, its in the standard, its part of what they are. As a guard dog he's right up there with some of the Turkish Kangals and the couple of Caucasian Ovtcharkas I've came across on my adventures.
Just out of interest, I see an APBT was on your list. Were you going to adopt, buy here or import? Word of caution BYB have ruined the pit bull in this country, I wouldn't even consider looking at adverts or sites in Ireland. Stafford is pretty much going the same way. 15inch barrell of fat is what most of them are these days but still some good staffords but probably best looking to the UK TBH. Depends what you want. There was a lad on here that used to post, no idea if he still does and he has a beautiful Irish Staffy.
If I was going APBT or Staffie I would most likely be adopting, I can't afford to import and like you said these dogs have been ruined by byb's I would look for a young dog in rescue, if I was going that route. Plus there are loads of young dogs of these breeds in rescues, so why not.
I've never had an RB dog, I have a Boxer and he is great but I love these breeds, not because of the image that they portray most of these breeds are fiercely loyal to their family and I love that. I will seriously be doing my research I want a dog that is well bred, health tested and I want to spend some time with the parents.
I don't think that I am an experienced enough owner for a dog with issues which is why I would either want a young rescue dog, below 6 months, or a puppy that I can raise.
As for guarding, that's fine with me, I am a young woman living on my own, just having my boxer makes me feel safer. But I am in no way getting a dog to be a guard dog, I guess that's just one of the perks. 0
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