Knackers trying to scare people by shouting in faces.

kylith

keelanj69 wrote: »

Racist!.. I think.. I'm not sure anymore..

Am I still a racist if I really like Japanese people, culture, and food, and if I think they're lovely?

keelanj69

kylith wrote: »

Am I still a racist if I really like Japanese people, culture, and food, and if I think they're lovely?

Are we talking real life racist, or AH racist?

Seachmall

kylith wrote: »

Am I still a racist if I really like Japanese people, culture, and food, and if I think they're lovely?

Not all Japanese people are lovely, stop generalising them you racist.

Festy

The Japanese,a great bunch of lads.

jimgoose

kylith wrote: »

Am I still a racist if I really like Japanese people, culture, and food, and if I think they're lovely?

Only if you keep one as a pet.

steddyeddy

NS77 wrote: »

So does that mean we should put up with what goes on?

Or should we strive to be able to say: "Dublin is much better than most other capital cities in Europe".

It's time for high civic standards in this country!

Where did I say that? I was just disagreeing with the posters who say Dublin is one of the worst.

SimonTemplar

The King of Moo wrote: »

Do you honestly believe that a kick in the arse is worth the assault that kid got? And do you think if you saw a grown man doing that to a 12-year old that you'd happily just walk on by?

I'm much more concerned about people who'd react like Crockholm did, people taking their revenge porn fantasies out of the online realm and into the real world, than I am about the minor problem of anti-social behaviour.

It was a kick in the arse for f*ck's sake!

Yes, that incident was 'just' a kick up the arse but if he got away with it, he would see that there were no consequences to his actions. This could lead to escalation and he might replace this relatively minor action in his pre-teen years with mugging with a knife in his teens.

BTW I'm not condoning the trowl incident, only that the child needed to be taught that there are consequences to his action.

dj jarvis

NS77 wrote: »

So does that mean we should put up with what goes on?

Or should we strive to be able to say: "Dublin is much better than most other capital cities in Europe".

It's time for high civic standards in this country!

yea , laudable ideal , but you are forgetting the people who cause these problems would not know what a civic standard is, let alone have one

every country has it under class with poor education , drug problems and anti social behavior

and in fairness the majority of the population have high civic standards,
so i would love to hear your solution to tackle these people

and firing them out to sea from a giant cannon is not a valid option :eek:

The King of Moo

previous user wrote: »

Someone should develop an app 'spot a scum bag' with different levels of annoying scum!

Level 1 could be just annoying scanger kids mucking about up to level 5 Junkie baastad scum. Each phone app user could warn other users on a map warning them that theres a rat faced fuker wearing a tracksuit in the locality.

We could also have a "spot a snob" app (catchier name) so you could avoid people looking down their nose at you because of your clothes and visible effects of malnutrition in your face.

SimonTemplar

SimonTemplar wrote: »

Yes, that incident was 'just' a kick up the arse but if he got away with it, he would see that there were no consequences to his actions. This could lead to escalation and he might replace this relatively minor action in his pre-teen years with mugging with a knife in his teens.

BTW I'm not condoning the trowl incident, only that the child needed to be taught that there are consequences to his action.

Exactly. Kicking someone up the arse shows a total lack of respect for other people. Doing nothing and laughing it off as 'kids will be kids' only serves to reinforce the idea that the little scrotes can go around doing whatever they want and face no consequences.

keelanj69 wrote: »

Racist!.. I think.. I'm not sure anymore..

Totally misguided, more like.

Sir Oxman

mikeym wrote: »

Dont blame those people blame their parents who didnt raise them well.

Yes, and that includes the yobs not from the 'heeyor' and 'howiya' backgrounds.
I see and hear quite a lot of that type mouthing and annoying people around the city.

I agree with posters who say the low-level scumbaggery witnessed in Dublin seems to be tolerated by the authorities way more than most other cities.

Zero tolerance should be employed to anti-social behaviour. Fullstop.
It is majorly down to neglect by the state in providing effective law and order forces in the city and effective deterrents.
Indeed, even the smallest of backwater towns in this country have similar problems.
There will always be rotten parents, no matter where they live or how much or little money they have.

PS the bit of sun + drink brings the worst out of the mouths and assholes in Ireland.

PPS I haven't been the victim of any abuse or violence in 46 years living in Dublin City (currently 15min walk from town) but then I look like a fcking lunatic. And I'm a big bastard.

StinkyMunkey

Happened a girl i worked with a couple of years back, some twat jumped in front of her and screamed in her face, she punched him full force in the face (it was her first reaction). His mates pissed themselves laughing.

I nearly pissed myself laughing when she told me. Karma is a beautiful thing .

SHOVELLER

The thread is about the scum who populate our capital city. All very well having comparisons with other capital cities but it is our own that troubles me.

(Ok if we have to compare try Amsterdam. Genuinely scary place with dealers on every corner in one infamous part of the city.)

Anyway I consider myself somewhat normal but I would have no problem offering the sub species €100 to get sterilised. It is a short term solution maybe but it is a start.

conorhal

I've recounted this story on similar threads before. A while back a group of about five travellers aged between 12 and 14 got on my Luas, they went the length of the carriage abusing people and acting the eejit and then started throwing slices of bread balled up into dough at an elderly couple, then turning around and saying 'It wan't me boss' and laughing.
I snatched the sliced pan off their ringleader, who instantly pops up to his full height and drops his jacket to the floor, demanding to fight me. I just stood up, eyeballed him for a minute and walked away. The vile abuse that was heaped on me, until I just got off at the next stop, actually left me shaking, when I was 13 or 14 it would never have occured to me to threaten or abuse an adult or elderly person in that manner. I had to get of the Luas at Blackhorse where I fed the remainder of the bread to the swans until I calmed down.

What pissed me off the most about that event was not the little scrotes behaviour, I expect scrotes to act like scrotes, it was the fact that nobody else was prepared to stand up to that behaviour, and when I did (in defense of an elderly couple being humiliated by a bunch of kids), a good 25 or 30 other healthy, strapping young male passengers on that Luas all either gawped on or found something really facinating to watch out the window. Needless to say I felt pretty vunerable and alone on a Luas full of passengers.

These were not some gang of dangerous thugs, they were scumbag kids, hardly beyond challenge or reproach, but nobody stood up to them or chose to back me up when I did.
I'd urge people when they see situations like that developing to stand up. If you don't do it, who's going to do it for you? If you don't stand up then you implicity surrender your public spaces and your fellow passengers to the sort of deviant behaviour that only gets worse and more brazen the less it's challenged.
Fair balls to the woman in the video on that other thread who berrated the drunk racist on that train, but where were the other passengers? I think you'd find that gob****es would sit down and shut up with amazing speed if an entire carriage stood up and refused to tollerate them. Remember that together, we are the mob, not them!

Festy

conorhal wrote: »

I've recounted this story on similar threads before. A while back a group of about five travellers aged between 12 and 14 got on my Luas and started throwing slices of bread balled up into dough at an elderly couple, then turning around and saying 'It wan't me boss' and laughing. I snatched the the sliced pan off their ringleader, who instantly pops up to his full height and drops his jacket to the floor, demanding to fight me. I just stood up, eyeballed him for a minute and walked away. The vile abuse that was heaped on me untill I just got off at the next stop actually left me shaking. I had to get of the Luas at Blackhorse where I fed the remainder of the bread to the swans until I calmed down.

What pissed me off the most about that event was not the little scrotes behaviour, I expect scrotes to act like scrotes, it was the fact that nobody else was prepared to stand up to that behaviour, and when I did, a good 25 or 30 other healthy, strapping young male passengers on that Luas all either gawped on or found something facinating to watch out the window. Needless to say I felt pretty vunerable and alone on a Luas full of passengers.

These were not some gang of dangerous thugs, they were scumbag kids, hardly beyond reproach but nobody stood up to them or chose to back me up when I did.
I'd urge people when they see situations like that developing to stand up. If you don't do it, who's going to do it for you? If you don't stand up then you implicity surrender your public spaces and your fellow passengers to deviant behaviour that only gets worse and more brazen the less it's challenged. Fair balls to the woman in the video on that other thread who berrated the drunk racist on that train, but where were the other passengers? I think you'd find that gob****es would sit down and shut up with amazing speed if an entire carriage stood up and refused to tollerate them. Remember that together, we are the mob, not them!

Most people would love nothing more than to stand up to these little punks but it's simply not worth getting a bottle over the head or even knifed.That's times we live in unfortunately and it is only going to get worse.

conorhal

Festy wrote: »

Most people would love nothing more than to stand up to these little punks but it's simply not worth getting a bottle over the head or even knifed.That's times we live in unfortunately and it is only going to get worse.

Well like I said, they were five 12-14 yr olds,I'd say, two 12yr old, a thirteen yr old and their fourteen year old ringleader. They were just out messing and intimidating people for a laugh and clearly armed only with a sliced pan.

I'm pretty sure that if five or six blokes had stood up and suggested that they apologise to the elderly couple an sit down, that they probably would have suddenly realised that they'd arrived at their stop.

If a carriage full of about 40 adults are cowed and unwilling to challenge that then they will no doubt become the knife and bottle wielding creatures that pose a serious threat.

Festy

conorhal wrote: »

Well like I said, they were five 12-14 yr old, say two 12yr old, a thirteen yr old and their fourteen year old ringleader. They were just out messing and intimidating people for a laugh and clearly armed only with a sliced pan.

I'm pretty sure that if five or six blokes had stood up and suggested that they apologise to the elderly couple an sit down, that they probably would have suddenly realised that they'd arrived at their stop.

If a carriage full of about 40 adults are cowed and unwilling to challenge that then they will no doubt become the knife and bottle wielding creatures that pose a serious threat.

12 is 21 in traveller age.


Those types of knacks are brought up around violence from a very young age.Some of them wouldn't think twice about pulling a knife on you.So like I said it's simply not worth getting involved in.

conorhal

Festy wrote: »

12 is 21 in traveller age.


Those types of knacks are brought up around violence from a very young age.Some of them wouldn't think twice about pulling a knife on you.So like I said it's simply not worth getting involved in.

I doubt it. I'm a good enough judge of situations to be able to gague how far it's likely to escalate, believe me when I say that I've absolutely no interest in intervening in a situation in which I'm likely to get stabbed. This wasn't one of those, still people were unwilling to check the behaviour of people only behaving that way simply because they knew they could.

COYW

SHOVELLER wrote: »

The thread is about the scum who populate our capital city. All very well having comparisons with other capital cities but it is our own that troubles me.

(Ok if we have to compare try Amsterdam. Genuinely scary place with dealers on every corner in one infamous part of the city.)

Anyway I consider myself somewhat normal but I would have no problem offering the sub species €100 to get sterilised. It is a short term solution maybe but it is a start.

Good post. I had the "pleasure" of visiting Amsterdam a few weeks ago, staying very close to that district and I have to say that I wouldn't live there for all the money in the world. As you say, that part of the city was filled with addicts of hard drugs, dealers and weirdos looking to start fights with tourists. Dublin has it share of knackers but it is a beautiful city compared to what I witnessed in Amsterdam.

In Dublin, the good weather does seem to have an effect on them. I witnessed a good example today. Mr and Mrs Junkie were sitting at the bus stop at Islandbridge. Mrs Junkie was off her face but Mr. Junkie wasn't because "the welfare" wouldn't give him his money and he couldn't buy "his gear". Mrs. Junkie decides to comfort him by kissing him. Mr. Junkie didn't like this and proceeded to tell her to have sexual intercourse with herself and pushed her away. Mrs. Junkie opened a can of cheap beer at this point. Suddenly another female junkie, Mrs. Junkie #2, arrives on the scene and Mr. Junkie gets the idea into his head that she might be able to help him out, so he starts talking to her and asks her about "heading out". Mrs. Junkie #2 is interested but she has to attend to the more pressing mater of "her fella" being in court and she needed to find €2,000 for him first. She told Mr. Junkie that she would be back in 5 mins and walked off in the direction of the central criminal court. My bus came then so I had to leave but I was soooo tempted to wait to see what happened.

I have given up watching soap operas because you get more entertainment at that bus stop than any soap can provide.

alphabeat

The King of Moo wrote: »

In response to getting a kick in the bottom, you pinned a minor against a wall, stabbed his groin with a trowel, and now hope than an elderly man who tried to stop your assault gets robbed!?

You're a scumbag.

no hes not , hes just mis guided - he should have snapped the little cnuts neck

The King of Moo

alphabeat wrote: »

no hes not , hes just mis guided - he should have snapped the little cnuts neck

Wait a second, earlier in the thread someone told me that the murder of a child was a bad thing, and the type of thing that scumbags do.

Now I don't know what to believe!

Hoop66

Festy wrote: »

12 is 21 in traveller age.


Those types of knacks are brought up around violence from a very young age.Some of them wouldn't think twice about pulling a knife on you.So like I said it's simply not worth getting involved in.

If this is your attitude, how will you cope when that sort of behaviour is the norm? When you can't even go on the LUAS because it's full of poorly-behaved lads intimidating everybody?

I'm not advocating violence here, just a refusal to be cowed by this sort of behaviour. The lads doing this are essentially bullies & cowards and will back down if they are resisted in any way.

Wolfruin

Had a similar incident once as the OP, a guy yelled in my GFs face as we were heading into a chipper.

He clearly saw me and my unimpressed face after that, he then tried to act the hard man on me with his friends behind him, I turned to my GF and calmly asked "when he yelled at you did he spit at you?"
She nodded, so i took my phone out, called the cops saying that my GF had just been assaulted ( spitting on a person I consider assault), the guy went pale and started to apologise to both my Gf and myself.

While I can easily handle myself, I will never put herself into any danger.

I have found that the trick is dont be afraid of them or show fear and always be smarter than them.

sinjin_smythe

Two similar events happened that I can recall about these type of people. First one was a few months back when myself and my girlfriend had been walking down Abbey Street (about 9pm), we saw a bunch of teenagers with beer bottles walking down towards us, probably were about 17-19 years old. The street was pretty empty and all of a sudden they started running towards us. At the time I had my hands in my pockets and I pretty much stood there walking (trying to act normal). One of them reached me first with his hand in the air holding clutching the bottle and went to swing at my head when he suddenly just stopped held the position and said "only messin bud", all the others had a great laugh and i just stood there in shock. made me really realize never to keep my hands in my pockets. I was really angry at these scumbags and disappointed that I would have just not defended myself if it had of been the real thing.

Another time I had been on the luas coming home when another group of teenagers thought it was hilarious to start spitting pieces of paper from McDonalds straws at people randomly. I had my back to them and noticed something hit my hit my neck, turned around and of course they all look away, they kept doing this and i could hear the sniggering. It finally reached a point where I just saw red, felt a tap on my neck again, got up from the seat and went straight over. The guy doing it didnt notice I got up and was in the middle of annoying another passenger. He turned around saw me standing right in front of him looking at him in a serious rage. I shouted at the top of my voice "Dont ****ing do that again!" He was completely shook and almost fell off the seat. felt so good.

Should point out I avoid any confrontation at all if I can, but I really needed to sit down and breath deep after that.

Frank Boggins

Was there any cheese?

I wouldn't care if it was an 8 year old girl.. If I thought I'd get away with it, I'd beat them to death or beat them senseless. Too many people in this world and I'm itching to take one scumbag cùnt out of it.

I am pie

Deleted User wrote: »

I wouldn't care if it was an 8 year old girl.. If I thought I'd get away with it, I'd beat them to death or beat them senseless. Too many people in this world and I'm itching to take one scumbag cùnt out of it.

Complains about scumbags, confesses to urge to murder someone.

I am pie

I am pie wrote: »

Complains about scumbags, confesses to urge to murder someone.

I'm not seeing the link between wanting to kill a scumbag and being a scumbag.

kiffer

I am pie wrote: »

Complains about scumbags, confesses to urge to murder someone.

Justifiable homicide, no jury would convict.

Sefirah

Dublin is getting to be a much scarier place in general. I was walking through Jervis at 9.30pm the other day and all of a sudden saw one guy run up to another one, pull off his own belt, fold it in half and beat the living shíte out of him. It was awful. The guy he was beating kept screaming "we can sort this out" and "it wasn't just me" :S

I am pie

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not seeing the link between wanting to kill a scumbag and being a scumbag.

Which makes you a....

wexie

I am pie wrote: »

Which makes you a....

Fine upstanding citizen?

Sunnyisland

Sefirah wrote: »

Dublin is getting to be a much scarier place in general. I was walking through Jervis at 9.30pm the other day and all of a sudden saw one guy run up to another one, pull off his own belt, fold it in half and beat the living shíte out of him. It was awful. The guy he was beating kept screaming "we can sort this out" and "it wasn't just me" :S

Maybe he had screamed in yer mans face and got his comeuppance :P:D

I am pie

I am pie wrote: »

Which makes you a....

Fairly normal person.. Most people would love to see one or two certain scumbags get destroyed under a truck. They won't all admit it but it's true.

A complete idiot sideswiped me with his moped a couple of weeks ago and he hit the ground very very hard.. Little scumbag boyracer fuking around left and right with no helmet and putting everyone in danger. Thankfully, I have a big bike and he hit it in a part that didn't get damaged so all I got was a knock whereas he wrecked himself.

That actually made my week and I told nearly every one of my friends that I met this story of a little scumbag fuking himself up crashing into me. If there was a bus behind us, it would have made my year.

kiffer

I am pie wrote: »

Which makes you a....

a frustrated human, letting off steam by talking rather than some shıthead spitting on people in the street?

Fukuyama

Anyone that's ever been mugged or assaulted or intimidated by little jumped up skangers will have it stay with them for a long time.

I hate getting the LUAS red line home. Only do it when I've missed the last bus. Of course that's just the time when you're likely to run into little **** heads looking for it.

Stand your ground and if you hit someone make damn sure they won't be able to hit you back. No 'controlled response'. A response should always be 110%.

"Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets." - Travis Bickle, Taxi Driver.

mad muffin

Just scream at the top of your lungs;

"I'LL SKULL **** EVERY MOTHER ****ING ONE OF YOUS AND THEN ANAL RAPE YOU WITH MY MOTHER ****ING FOOT!!"



Works every time...

holystungun9

mad muffin wrote: »

Just scream at the top of your lungs;

"I'LL SKULL **** EVERY MOTHER ****ING ONE OF YOUS AND THEN ANAL RAPE YOU WITH MY MOTHER ****ING FOOT!!"



Works every time...

*PM sent

mad muffin

holystungun9 wrote: »

*PM sent

To?

mad muffin

OSI wrote: »

You ya mad muffin.

Via an post?

The King of Moo

Dean0088 wrote: »

Anyone that's ever been mugged or assaulted or intimidated by little jumped up skangers will have it stay with them for a long time.

I hate getting the LUAS red line home. Only do it when I've missed the last bus. Of course that's just the time when you're likely to run into little **** heads looking for it.

Stand your ground and if you hit someone make damn sure they won't be able to hit you back. No 'controlled response'. A response should always be 110%.

"Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets." - Travis Bickle, Taxi Driver.

Yes, that fictional, violent, delusional lunatic was really onto something.

Pfft, it's not a new thing. I had pricks do that to me back in 1992 thanks to that fupping Tango orange ad.

Retrovertigo

ORANGES!

SHOVELLER

Wolfruin wrote: »

I have found that the trick is dont be afraid of them or show fear and always be smarter than them.

Humans are always smarter than criminals.

Galwayguy35

Dean0088 wrote: »

Anyone that's ever been mugged or assaulted or intimidated by little jumped up skangers will have it stay with them for a long time.

I hate getting the LUAS red line home. Only do it when I've missed the last bus. Of course that's just the time when you're likely to run into little **** heads looking for it.

Stand your ground and if you hit someone make damn sure they won't be able to hit you back. No 'controlled response'. A response should always be 110%.

"Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets." - Travis Bickle, Taxi Driver.

Yeah I saw something similar on the Red Line, this couple minding their own business when 3 skangers about 12 or 13 started shouting abuse at them.

I felt really sorry for them to have to put up with that kind of thing.

Worst thing is pond life like that have nothing else to do but breed the next generation of lowlifes, because getting a job is an alien concept to them.

9959

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Yeah I saw something similar on the Red Line, this couple minding their own business when 3 skangers about 12 or 13 started shouting abuse at them.

I felt really sorry for them to have to put up with that kind of thing.

Worst thing is pond life like that have nothing else to do but breed the next generation of lowlifes, because getting a job is an alien concept to them.

Red Herrings on the Red Line

You're making a direct link between antisocial behaviour and unemployment, I'll take a wild guess and say that a large number of people 'minding their own business' on the Luas are unemployed.

Any talk of next generation lowlife 'breeding' always makes me feel slightly uneasy, next stop Eugenics.

By the way, how many 12 to 13 year olds are, or should be, employed?
There's not the call for Chimney Sweeps that there once was, central heating and all that, we're gone soft, bring back hanging etc.

gctest50

9959 wrote: »

There's not the call for Chimney Sweeps that there once was, central heating and all that, we're gone soft, bring back hanging etc.

.

fryup

Augmerson wrote: »

Hit them, regardless of sex. Hit them and hit them ****ing hard as you can, and as soon as the nearest one comes for you, pull your keys out of your pocket and bury it in their face. Deep in the eye socket. Be screaming while you do this too. I mean really screaming, like Braveheart or something.

Scumbags are scumbags because ordinary people don't do anything.

why do the irish always have to resort to violence??

why not take the gandhi stance

fryup

fryup wrote: »

why do the irish always have to resort to violence??

why not take the gandhi stance

Unfortunately I don't think you can reason with these scum.

9959

fryup wrote: »

why do the irish always have to resort to violence??

why not take the gandhi stance

Or indeed, The Len Ganley stance.

"Keep your arms as rigid as a juggernaut
Clench your fists, point your knuckles straight ahead
Do your best to look like a teddy bear
Then try and pretend to look vertically dead"