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**HL Maths Paper 1 before/after**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    RML wrote: »
    Cant believe i forgot everything about patterns :(
    Did anyone get 0.0762 for the proportion of carbon-14 part a??

    Yeah but I think it's wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 439 ✭✭RML


    giggsy664 wrote: »
    They sell 12000 at €20, and 1000 more for each €1 the price drops by.
    20-16 = 4
    4*1000 = 4000

    12000+4000 = 16000


    OMG I got 16000 and then scribbled answers out. FML :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 traleebeur


    what's the story with the matchstick one???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭giggsy664


    RML wrote: »
    OMG I got 16000 and then scribbled answers out. FML :mad:

    They'll award you the mark if it's in any way legible, and the examiner may even go out of their way to make out that you wrote 16000


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭no scope codgod


    giggsy664 wrote: »
    They sell 12000 at €20, and 1000 more for each €1 the price drops by.
    20-16 = 4
    4*1000 = 4000

    12000+4000 = 16000

    It was a bit more complicated than that. The question said it was a "special event" so the demand for tickets wasn't related to the price like in the first part of the question. You had set up a really long simultaneous equation. Did anyone else get 2500? I'm not certain I got it fully.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11 PaulR666


    Well what did people think of it? I personally thought the series and Financial Maths questions were near to impossible. Q7 ,Q8, Q4, Q2 .. were probably my strongest. Thoughts? Opinions? Questions?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 traleebeur


    did anyone say the matchsticks where an arithmetic series?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Lc201395


    For the last part if the matchstick i got 2704 small triangles, ring any bells??

    Also what's the story with low partial credits? What do you have to do in a Q to get the low partial credit?


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 django 123


    was the best vaulue for the ticket to give max amount 16 euro? :)

    I hated the Match stick question! Couldn't get it!
    Also for the area under the curves being the same was it cause of axial symetry of 180 degrees through X-axis?
    Meh, It was better than expected. Hopefully got a good B in it! Paper 1 is always hardest for me so hopefully Paper 2 goes better!! :D

    I had 16 euro but 16.50 gave higher revenue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭SecondMan


    It was a bit more complicated than that. The question said it was a "special event" so the demand for tickets wasn't related to the price like in the first part of the question. You had set up a really long simultaneous equation. Did anyone else get 2500? I'm not certain I got it fully.

    I got 2500 but I don't think I used simultaneous equations! I don't really know what I done.

    Anyone elses head fried after this? I thought the paper was unusual and just....weird and it kind of gave me a headache.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18 TMG94


    If I filled in every question, and they were all wrong (I did terribly but I know I got some right, I'm just being conservative), butwhat I wrote was related to the question in some way, do you think it's possible that I got more than the 120 attempt marks out of 300 marks needed for a pass in paper 1?
    It was a slaughter in there...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭0mega


    traleebeur wrote: »
    did anyone say the matchsticks where an arithmetic series?

    No, there was a quadratic and an exponential.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭Vito Corleone


    What do you guys think will happen with the marking scheme now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭0mega


    Lc201395 wrote: »
    For the last part if the matchstick i got 2704 small triangles, ring any bells??

    Also what's the story with low partial credits? What do you have to do in a Q to get the low partial credit?

    Yep! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭giggsy664


    django 123 wrote: »
    I had 16 euro but 16.50 gave higher revenue

    16 was the local max when you differentiated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    What do you guys think will happen with the marking scheme now?

    Won't be marked too easy I think


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 traleebeur


    bye bye A1 it was nice knowing you..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭giggsy664


    It was a bit more complicated than that. The question said it was a "special event" so the demand for tickets wasn't related to the price like in the first part of the question. You had set up a really long simultaneous equation. Did anyone else get 2500? I'm not certain I got it fully.

    I did it out a few ways and the way I did it was the only way it made sense to me. Also got 2180 family tickets from a simultaneous equation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭bluejay14


    For the most part it was alright, like questions 1-4 and the integration question were fine. Although I got a completely different answer for the loan bit than ye did :L

    The sequences question with the matchsticks was a complete shambles apart from drawing it out and filling in the table. I hadn't the foggiest where I was going with it trying to derive those formulas :(

    The stadium question was nearly as horrific. It though parts of it weren't worded the best. Was I the only one who used practically no mathematical formula/reasoning in finding the ticket price for maximum income?

    Half of the differentiation question I couldn't do either, the parametric part with x=2 because I have no clue what a parametric function is to start with. The last part completely stumped me too, hadn't a clue if I was supposed to he using substitution or not. :L

    But still, if paper 2 is as nice or nicer I will be happy because it's by far my better paper despite my hatred of trig.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    traleebeur wrote: »
    did anyone say the matchsticks where an arithmetic series?

    I said they were a cubic series???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭ynwa14


    Disappointed that the paper wasnt as challenging as I expected Think I did well, pretty much flew through the paper so I have a feeling its gonna be marked harder. Hope I did enough to get my A but this depends on paper two, my arch nemesis!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Laura229


    Did anyone get 663 for the loan?


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 Brendan1234


    giggsy664 wrote: »
    They sell 12000 at €20, and 1000 more for each €1 the price drops by.
    20-16 = 4
    4*1000 = 4000

    12000+4000 = 16000

    But that only applies when all the tickets they sold were €16. The last part said there was a "special event" on, so I took it that the previous parts didn't apply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭0mega


    I said they were a cubic series???

    Didn't it give you the formula for one of the parts as an2 + bn + c?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭ScummyMan


    For the last part of the financial maths question, it never told you if he paid at the start or the end of the month? I assumed he paid at the end of the month, did everyone else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    Laura229 wrote: »
    Did anyone get 663 for the loan?

    I used the amortization formula and got 487


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    Where did it ask this, think I must have missed it. :(

    It didn't ask it specifically, I just put it down over the table


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 Brendan1234


    It was a bit more complicated than that. The question said it was a "special event" so the demand for tickets wasn't related to the price like in the first part of the question. You had set up a really long simultaneous equation. Did anyone else get 2500? I'm not certain I got it fully.

    Yes I got that :) I think we did it the same way because the simultaneous equations were pretty awkward, like there was no way you could have done that in the space they provided.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭11Charlie11


    I used the amortization formula and got 487

    I got that aswell!!! :D maybe I didn't fail :O


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  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭D_s


    That was a lovely paper!

    I'm in a Pilot school so I don't know which parts were different but,
    Off the top of my head, answers I can remember so we can all compare and feel happy/feel shít:

    3 way simultaneous equations: 2, 4 and 10 were my answers
    Area under Sin graph = 2 units^2
    Tickets sold = 2500, price of revenue maximisation = €16
    No. of triangles = n squared, No. of matchsticks needed to create next sequence = 3n
    Rate or change for the raindrop = 0.2122 mm/s
    The Loan repayments was Amortisation formula, ended up in the 400's, somehing like €470, can't remember exactly, girls lodgments each month were in the 300's, can't remember exactly again

    Emm... can't remember what other questions were asked really :P

    How does everyone compare?


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