Speed Limit Signs in ROI

CiniO

keithclancy wrote: »

Indeed, in Germany anyway:
End of speed and passing restriction is:


End of overtaking restriction for cars


End of overtaking restriction for trucks:


End of speed restriction:


So it can get pretty confusing when your driving and you see one of these signs but your trying to remember what the damn sign said around 5 kilometers back

I don't really get this.
If you see any of those sings it doesn't really matter what was 5km before.
If you see the first one, you know that any "speed limit signs" and "no overtaking signs" stop applying, so you can go as fast as normal speed limit for that kind of road (f.e national road 100km/h, city - 50km/h, motorway - unlimited), and that you can overtake.

If you see the second sign, you know that now you can overtake. And if you see the forth sign, you know now you can go with "default speed limit" for that kind of road.

Where's the confusing part?

The Autobahn has a recommended speed limit of 130km/h, while there is no restriction, if you run into someone while going over it you are pretty much always in the wrong.

Who decides about the fault in accidents in Germany?

ardmacha

There are some odd end of restriction limit signs in Britain too, like this one.

keithclancy

CiniO wrote: »

I don't really get this.
If you see any of those sings it doesn't really matter what was 5km before.
If you see the first one, you know that any "speed limit signs" and "no overtaking signs" stop applying, so you can go as fast as normal speed limit for that kind of road (f.e national road 100km/h, city - 50km/h, motorway - unlimited), and that you can overtake.

If you see the second sign, you know that now you can overtake. And if you see the forth sign, you know now you can go with "default speed limit" for that kind of road.

Where's the confusing part?

For example there's A61 between Dülken and Kaldenkirchen which has 3 speed restrictions (2 for road works and 1 for noise), 2 sections with no overtaking for Trucks and 1 section for cars

That's 16 signs over a 20 km stretch of road.

So you see no overtaking trucks, then speed reduces to 100, then no overtaking for cars, then restriction lifted for trucks and then cars, then restrictions is removed for speed, then no overtaking for trucks again.

When you get past Venlo on the A40 at the Dutch side at the moment, it's no overtaking for trucks during the rush hour, then speed is 120 on certain sections between 9-7 and is 130 outside those hours, but there's a second set of signs next to those for 90km/h for the road noise due to a new road surface and restriction lifting signs further down the road.

Clearly it is confusing because the amount of cars that get caught by the Mobile cameras and ones that get pulled over is unreal on that stretch.

Hence I stay on the A52 instead toward Roermond and take the A2 instead.
less Autobahn but the road is far better.

Who decides about the fault in accidents in Germany?

The cops basically, if liability is disputed you call them and they fill out a report (Unfallbericht)
If its found you were travelling over the recommended speed of 130km/h then you are at fault.
Same as traveling on Summer Tyres in the Winter.

CiniO

keithclancy wrote: »

For example there's A61 between Dülken and Kaldenkirchen which has 3 speed restrictions (2 for road works and 1 for noise), 2 sections with no overtaking for Trucks and 1 section for cars

That's 16 signs over a 20 km stretch of road.

So you see no overtaking trucks, then speed reduces to 100, then no overtaking for cars, then restriction lifted for trucks and then cars, then restrictions is removed for speed, then no overtaking for trucks again.

All right.
But it's still simple enough IMHO.
FOA "no overtaking for cars" generally means "no overtaking for anyone including trucks".
So if there is " no overtaking for cars" sign it applies to trucks as well, while "no overtaking for trucks" applies only to trucks.
Drop the trucks stuff, and look from the point of car driver.
You ignore "no overtaking for trucks signs as they don't apply to you.

If you see "no overtaking" sign, it means you can't overtake. It applies to next junction or before you see "end of no overtaking" or "end of restrictions sign".
So far simple.

Speed limit sign always cancels previous speed limit sign.
So if you see on motorway limit to 100, and then few km further limit to 80, and then eventually "end of speed limit" or "end of restrictions" sign, you know you are allowed to travel with default speed limit for that type of the road which in "no limits" on motorways.

I don't know but for me it's really perfectly simple, but maybe it's just the fact that exactly the same system applies in Poland where I learned to drive so this is all obvious for me.

When you get past Venlo on the A40 at the Dutch side at the moment, it's no overtaking for trucks during the rush hour, then speed is 120 on certain sections between 9-7 and is 130 outside those hours, but there's a second set of signs next to those for 90km/h for the road noise due to a new road surface and restriction lifting signs further down the road.

Clearly it is confusing because the amount of cars that get caught by the Mobile cameras and ones that get pulled over is unreal on that stretch.

Hence I stay on the A52 instead toward Roermond and take the A2 instead.
less Autobahn but the road is far better.

I've driven there in February last time, but didn't see 90km/h limit sign.
Maybe I just missed it or it wasn't there yet.

The cops basically, if liability is disputed you call them and they fill out a report (Unfallbericht)
If its found you were travelling over the recommended speed of 130km/h then you are at fault.

I didn't know that.
I heard that German insurers might refuse to pay if accident was above the 130km/h but I never cared about it, as I was never insured with German insurer.

But is it always your fault and not the other persons, or is it 50/50?
Hard to understand why someone who possibly caused an accident would be 100% releived from responisibility just due to fact that other driver was above 130km/h

Same as traveling on Summer Tyres in the Winter.

I suppose it applies only in "winter conditions".
You can't be penalised for driving on summer tyres on perfectly dry road in January, can you?

flazio

There is one place in the republic where the national speed limit lives on, it's just outside the village of Aughrim near Ballinasloe Co. Galway.:P

Fred Swanson

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flazio

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Nope, otherwise the other side would have '30' written on it instead of the No Overtaking sign. Across the bridge are the proper 50/80 signs for entering the village. It appears they put the old signs up so as to have a reflective surface on the back of the no overtaking signs to avoid motorists hitting them.

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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They're my pictures which I took on Tuesday 18th of June 2013. I had taken similar pictures 2 years ago for the Poor road signage thread over in Commuting and Transport forum.

Fred Swanson

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flazio

Should be here but the Streetcam was too early to capture it.

Victor

flazio wrote: »

It appears they put the old signs up so as to have a reflective surface on the back of the no overtaking signs to avoid motorists hitting them.

But there is a crash barrier in the way.

flazio

Victor wrote: »

But there is a crash barrier in the way.

That's honestly the only logical reason I can think of for putting them there.