LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

ShadowHearth

frozenfrozen wrote: »

diesel 6 series

I wish... I got promotion, but not that much. :pac:

ShadowHearth

wilford wrote: »

Have a gs450h now coming up to 2 years now only thing gone wrong has been a tyre pressure sensor other expenses were a set of front pads and a service spent on a new set of wheels/tyres but they wer'nt needed ,I've done 28k since I got it,10.1l/100 is what it averages,550km usually out of a tank mostly around town have got 680 out of it on a long journey.

What year is it? It is technically hybrid, but in good way. Electrical things to look out in that part?

Padraig Mor

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I always wanted a Volvo since I was a kid ( sad, I know), but S60 and S80 do not make me wiggle down there at all. D5 don't have much going power wise out of bigger engine. Only 180hp.

I looked more in to lexus. Would like is220d, but they have horrible gearboxes and a car that was rushed in, because market needed diesel and they had none is not something I out much faith in.
So I looked more in to GS ones and I kind of loving it. Specially gs450h. Looks like it would be a win for me in both worlds. Going back to nice smooth petrol car and mpg is actually manageable. Luxury is outstanding too.
Original idea was to get post 08 530d or 330d, but price difference between 06-07 and 08 is just laughable. Saving 750 per year on tax, but pay about 10k extra for one years newer car. So I would be looking more in to 06-07 car and pay that tax in one go.
I am just afraid Google GS 450h amd find out it has tendencies of blowing up randomly.

GS450h is a beast in a straight line (remember, it's bones of 350bhp). Rock solid engine; car generally just susceptible to the same few niggles as the 300 - iffy xenons, seizing rear calipers, think that's about it really.

We couldn't persuade you into a LS600h could we?!

ShadowHearth

Padraig Mor wrote: »

GS450h is a beast in a straight line (remember, it's bones of 350bhp). Rock solid engine; car generally just susceptible to the same few niggles as the 300 - iffy xenons, seizing rear calipers, think that's about it really.

We couldn't persuade you into a LS600h could we?!

I was actually shocked a bit by its power figures. Its actually impressive. Overkill for my needs, but **** it. Ironically it will still have better mpg then my subaru wrx. I know that I am doing it wrong by looking for something big and still give decent mpg, but unfortunately I need something that is still able to pass petrol station s now and then. If it can get 30mpg on my work runs which is pretty much no city driving, then it will work. I think 600h won't manage that.
I still got time until next year, but I want to do some research already and keep am eye on this thread. I don't want to be in that position where I got all ready to go for a change and still have no clue what to go for.

166man

Blazer wrote: »

A 286hp car is boring???

Yup. 240km/h cruising is impressive but what else is impressive about it really? And I actually like the E60 M-Sport as a car to look at.

They're actually not great cruisers due to M-Sport suspension, and RFT tyres, as well as those Hideous spider wheels that most come with.

They're also not economical nor reliable either!


Explain what's so good about them so!

selectamatic wrote: »

Sarcasm?

As above.

Big Nasty wrote: »

Dickism?

A surprising dig by someone like yourself. Nice try, remember what you told me yourself, don't take these things personally just because you have an E60

Supergurrier wrote: »

Can confirm 535d are boring.

QFT.

Blazer

166man wrote: »

Yup. 240km/h cruising is impressive but what else is impressive about it really? And I actually like the E60 M-Sport as a car to look at.

They're actually not great cruisers due to M-Sport suspension, and RFT tyres, as well as those Hideous spider wheels that most come with.

They're also not economical nor reliable either!


Explain what's so good about them so!

QFT.

The M57 engine is extremely reliable so I don't know where you're getting that from.
If you wanted it as a cruiser get the SE version which is a lot softer. Granted RFTs back then were a lot harsher but the newest generation are miles better. I still prefer non-rft's anyway.
As for economical? You're obviously joking.
The Spyder wheels are not the default alloys which are the MV2 so again this is personal taste.

ShadowHearth

Irony is that after googling every choice the least issues had lexus GS300 and BMW 535d. The biggest issues were Merc cls 320cdi, BMW 730d and in a way lexus GS 450h, due to battery issues, which costs 5k eu.

I am not defender of 535d and I never drove one, but it is definitely not the worst option.

CharlieCroker

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Irony is that after googling every choice the least issues had lexus GS300 and BMW 535d. The biggest issues were Merc cls 320cdi, BMW 730d and in a way lexus GS 450h, due to battery issues, which costs 5k eu.

I am not defender of 535d and I never drove one, but it is definitely not the worst option.

Only Lexus dealers charge €5000 as they replace the whole battery pack. There's specialist out there who'll replace the affected cells for a few hundred. Read a thread on the owners forum of a lad in Cork who did it himself for €1-200

ShadowHearth

CharlieCroker wrote: »

Only Lexus dealers charge €5000 as they replace the whole battery pack. There's specialist out there who'll replace the affected cells for a few hundred. Read a thread on the owners forum of a lad in Cork who did it himself for €1-200

That's actually great to hear so, if that's the case I will not cut out GS 450h as it was my favourite choice.

Truckermal

ShadowHearth wrote: »

That's actually great to hear so, if that's the case I will not cut out GS 450h as it was my favourite choice.

Your welcome to a drive on my 300 as we live fairly nearby! They are a beautiful machine plus very quiet and super smooth!

ShadowHearth

Truckermal wrote: »

Your welcome to a drive on my 300 as we live fairly nearby! They are a beautiful machine plus very quiet and super smooth!

I might even take you on that offer when I get some breathing space from work.
I was always jap and now alfa man. Never liked Germans and they are by far not as reliable as people say. Unfortunately in these kind car category you pretty much got only Germans.
Was even toying with idea of is250, but feck all difference in mpg and GS series is definitely above it.

bear1

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-xj8/13650242

I like this, lovely engine to go with it. But the stealer here is that it's taxed until the end of August 2017!

unkel

Eh yeah, €95 per year taxi tax is on it

Overpriced...

Duke O Smiley

You'd wonder is the seller oblivious or if they are trying to pull the wool over a prospective buyer's eyes, claiming its "taxed"

For a bit less money I think i'd have this honest-sounding example (which has been for sale a long while, mind)

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-xj8-v8-4-2l-petrol-81k-miles-nct-05-17/13745576

frozenfrozen

ah taxi tax takes the shine off it

tinofapples

Yeah you can see the label in the top left of the rear window. Still taxed till next Aug whoever buys it.

Duke O Smiley

tinofapples wrote: »

Yeah you can see the label in the top left of the rear window. Still taxed till next Aug whoever buys it.

The disc is still there alright but once the car is transferred into private hands its technically no longer taxed.

mickdw

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

The disc is still there alright but once the car is transferred into private hands its technically no longer taxed.

I've never ran without tax in my life but id drive on with that disc until renewal date.

Truckermal

mickdw wrote: »

I've never ran without tax in my life but id drive on with that disc until renewal date.

Fcuking right!

Duke O Smiley

mickdw wrote: »

I've never ran without tax in my life but id drive on with that disc until renewal date.

Hah you and me both!

Marcusm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

The disc is still there alright but once the car is transferred into private hands its technically no longer taxed.

I don't think that''s right; I think the basis of assessment needs to be changed at the next tax renewal date. At least that'a how the forms work.

Problem for me is that the key in that is exactly where my right kneecap goes or at least it was in the XJRs and Super 8s I tried.

aerofoiled

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

You'd wonder is the seller oblivious or if they are trying to pull the wool over a prospective buyer's eyes, claiming its "taxed"

For a bit less money I think i'd have this honest-sounding example (which has been for sale a long while, mind)

A few more photos in his ad wouldn't go amiss.

bear1

mickdw wrote: »

I've never ran without tax in my life but id drive on with that disc until renewal date.

fcuking right I would.

Duke O Smiley

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

For a bit less money I think i'd have this honest-sounding example (which has been for sale a long while, mind)
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1 lousy photo?

Just bragging about John Riverdance guy

Blazer

mickdw wrote: »

I've never ran without tax in my life but id drive on with that disc until renewal date.

Won't work, once the log book is transferred over to you you get notified that the tax rate is no longer valid and you must purchase it. Happened to me when I bought a jeep that has previously been tax exempt. Was only a month left on it so no big deal.

mickdw

You say 'must' purchase it.
So you buy the car with years disc in the window. Once changed over, you get notification that tax is due. What if you don't buy it - you still have a disc. Then 1 year later they would look for arrears I guess. Sell to wife then.
It's messy alright, probably not worth the hassle.

grogi

mickdw wrote: »

You say 'must' purchase it.
So you buy the car with years disc in the window. Once changed over, you get notification that tax is due. What if you don't buy it - you still have a disc. Then 1 year later they would look for arrears I guess. Sell to wife then.
It's messy alright, probably not worth the hassle.

It is an offence for both: driving without the disc and driving without the tax...
So if APR car picks you up, you are still in trouble...

bear1

grogi wrote: »

It is an offence for both: driving without the disc and driving without the tax...
So if APR car picks you up, you are still in trouble...

But it wouldn't be flagged cause the system would believe it's taxed.

unkel

bear1 wrote: »

But it wouldn't be flagged cause the system would believe it's taxed.

Nope. The same system that notified Blazer, also updated PULSE. Flagging the car as not taxed.

Now as long as you don't get checked against PULSE, you'll be alright of course with the invalid disc in the window. It sure looks valid to humans / guards

But you will have the issue come renewal time that mickdw described

wilford

You'll never get insurance afaik either as it will flag as soon as you give them the reg that it's a psv unless you change the "logbook" I've been there tried that could only get temp cover while waiting for the book.

mickdw

wilford wrote: »

You'll never get insurance afaik either as it will flag as soon as you give them the reg that it's a psv unless you change the "logbook" I've been there tried that could only get temp cover while waiting for the book.

Well that puts an end to that then.

unkel

unkel wrote: »

.......... you'll be alright of course with the invalid disc in the window. It sure looks valid to humans / guards

But you will have the issue come renewal time that mickdw described

You'll have an issue at most checkpoints IMO.
I've noticed in the last 2/3 years for whatever reason AGS actually seem to read the disc rather than just glance at it

unkel

Only if the Garda puts the reg into PULSE. No Garda will actually have a close read, cop on that the tax is only €95 and start questioning you about how your PSV business is doing. That just won't happen

Quite the opposite. I drove down a Jaguar S-type recently (3l, so the annual tax is €1,494). Tax out since early last year. Got stopped at a checkpoint. Garda pointed his torch at the tax disc. Had a good look. Then he asked me "We are looking for some criminals here. I don't suppose you have seen any?" When I laughed and said I didn't, he waved me on...

Duke O Smiley

Tbh on the last few checkpoints i've been through the discs in the window were scrutinised, though probably bc i was in a Tipo and not an S type..

unkel

Do you think the car you are in would make a difference?

Didn't mention it above but I got stopped at a checkpoint again today in an untaxed car that was not yet in my name (so I still can't tax it). Garda looked at the tax disc and waved me on.

Duke O Smiley

I doubt you look as dodgy as me :P

oxnexon

@unkel I think the car type does make a difference. From my experience, driving a large engine luxobarge with no tax tends to draw more attention than your typical everyday motor at checkpoints

racso1975

1095

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2004-mercedes-benz-s430/13413304

Not sure how much that fix for nct would be I'm sure back seat could be replaced if required

jharr100

Is valid nct required for this thread ?

racso1975

jharr100 wrote: »

Is valid nct required for this thread ?

No mention of it in op

Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-legend-3-5-v6-vtec-/12967917



Few of these appearing for sale of late..€5k, NCT to 2017. AWD, V6, leather, nav, electric thingys etc

wotswattage

oxnexon wrote: »

@unkel I think the car type does make a difference. From my experience, driving a large engine luxobarge with no tax tends to draw more attention than your typical everyday motor at checkpoints

I think with the recent and much publicised clampdown on dodgy log books where big engined cars were taxed as smaller ones any large car is going to draw attention at a checkpoint.
Not to mention a car with scandalous tax is going to be hard to keep taxed all the time so its an easy target!

cadaliac

unkel wrote: »

Do you think the car you are in would make a difference?

Didn't mention it above but I got stopped at a checkpoint again today in an untaxed car that was not yet in my name (so I still can't tax it). Garda looked at the tax disc and waved me on.

you got lucky. believe that.

ShadowHearth

Those Honda legend are like 300hp!!!

Duke O Smiley

It offers AWD over a GS of the same era, but tax is dearer on the 3.5 init.

So IDK, do you go for the Legend or the GS?

Big Nasty

Legends are exceptionally thirsty cars

Truckermal

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2007-lexus-gs-300-low-miles/13862460

Fantastic value and taxed!

unkel

cadaliac wrote: »

you got lucky. believe that.

You're probably right. I have my cars pretty much always taxed (with valid disk), NCTd and have valid insurance, so I never have to be worried much about checkpoints

unkel

NCT and tax are valid and tax is normal, not PSV. And it's a one owner car Mal. Nice find!

Truckermal

unkel wrote: »

NCT and tax are valid and tax is normal, not PSV. And it's a one owner car Mal. Nice find!

I bet that he will find it hard to sell even though he's in the trade, I stuck mine up a few months ago and the phone didn't even ring...:D