LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

Duke O Smiley

Tigger wrote: »

i have a psv license
how does insurance work
its some car for no money

Its a lot of money tho

Voodoomelon

Taxi insurance can easily be €4-6k, negating any tax saving. Some chap got a quote recently for €23k starting out taxing, its gone through the roof like all other insurance has.

unkel

Tigger wrote: »

its some car for no money

It's 5 grand!

You can have a luxury Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, Jaguar for that kind of money. Literally any car in this thread. What's your fascination with the big Hyundai?

Tigger

unkel wrote: »

It's 5 grand!

You can have a luxury Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, Jaguar for that kind of money. Literally any car in this thread. What's your fascination with the big Hyundai?

i don't think id have to give 5 maybe 2
its different

26000 Elephants

Tigger wrote: »

i don't think id have to give 5 maybe 2
its different

I'd give it a few months, and the endless procession of "whats your last price?" merchants will have broken his spirit sufficiently for him to consider your 2k offer.....

But you'd still be paying about 500 too much.

Red Kev

One for everybody in the audience. 3 jags with 3 different personalities.


05 XJ6 petrol, NCT 10/17, €4950. Photo shows NCT 10/16 which is sloppy, but also means the car is for sale for a good while, so it's a good chance to haggle.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-xj6-sovering-2005/12838807



The devils own fuel..XJ diesel, NCT 11/17, 3 months tax, €3950. Big miles. No reg plate showing and it's from a dealer so eyes open here.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-xj-series-xj-2-7-executive-06my/14387683



One for the slightly eccentric amongst us, a 1970 XJ6 which is nowhere near as troublesome as the V12. Usually fairly solid cars and if they're offering viewing on a lift then it inspires confidence. €3950. Money saved on tax in year one can be used to upgrade the brakes and get the seats deep cleaned from a pro.

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/jaguar-xj6-4-2-series-1/13678306

unkel

Red Kev wrote: »

05 XJ6 petrol, NCT 10/17, €4950. Photo shows NCT 10/16 which is sloppy, but also means the car is for sale for a good while, so it's a good chance to haggle.

Car actually does have NCT till 10/17 as per the description. As you say, probably was for sale for a long time and he never replaced the picture of the old NCT disc

Still a bit pricey imho. From a dealer though, so you can rule out successfully offering a more realistic €3k - €3.5k or so...

Duke O Smiley

Dual fuel tanks on the series 1 are very cool

Red Kev

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Dual fuel tanks on the series 1 are very cool

Yeah. I had a Series 3 V12, picked it up in Germany and drove through Italy, from Sicily across to Tunisia and on to Libya. Great trip, especially as petrol in Libya was the equivalent of 10p/litre back then (1997). Took it up to Waw an Namus which was more than 200km off road across the desert. Great times, great country and great people (apart from the tosser who ran the place), long before it was destroyed by various elements.

Where I worked in Germany the bosses all had 7er and S-Class, there was one guy who was bit alternative who had an Audi V8. The Jag was a good bit lower than them and stood out inthe car park, often admired by the managment. But every day you'd sweat a little bit, just hoping it would start with no issue! Still a gorgeous car to own and drive, just seriously expensive to keep on the road.

James Bond Junior

Red Kev wrote: »

One for everybody in the audience. 3 jags with 3 different personalities.


05 XJ6 petrol, NCT 10/17, €4950. Photo shows NCT 10/16 which is sloppy, but also means the car is for sale for a good while, so it's a good chance to haggle.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-xj6-sovering-2005/12838807


The devils own fuel..XJ diesel, NCT 11/17, 3 months tax, €3950. Big miles. No reg plate showing and it's from a dealer so eyes open here.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-xj-series-xj-2-7-executive-06my/14387683



One for the slightly eccentric amongst us, a 1970 XJ6 which is nowhere near as troublesome as the V12. Usually fairly solid cars and if they're offering viewing on a lift then it inspires confidence. €3950. Money saved on tax in year one can be used to upgrade the brakes and get the seats deep cleaned from a pro.

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/jaguar-xj6-4-2-series-1/13678306

Second one linked is in a garage only open a wet week. Anybody know their story?

humberklog

Are they 8 track tapes on the back seat of the 70's Jag?
It looks like an 8 track player on the console.

ShadowHearth

I really like that first diesel Jag. 200k miles though? Would it be still alive? It's in limerick too.

Blazer

This looks pretty good..I was admiring one previously back a few posts but its sold. This one is a grand cheaper which kinda worries me but I know nothing about these cars.



https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/06-automatic-cls350/14442111

punisher5112

Nice looking merc. Pictures taken at test centre by the looks of learner bus at rear shot of picture.

ShadowHearth

That is nice. When I was looking at 300c last week, they had one of these parked next to it. They look really really nice in flesh.

I am just not sure about their reliability though. Diesel engines and gearboxes have good few issues, but kmow nothing off petrol ones.

brady23

Blazer wrote: »

This looks pretty good..I was admiring one previously back a few posts but its sold. This one is a grand cheaper which kinda worries me but I know nothing about these cars.



https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/06-automatic-cls350/14442111

Any thoughts on what insurance would work out on something like this in comparison to a BMW 320d 2011 which was my most recent car but I'm living abroad now but back in August.
I was paying around 1600e 27 yo full license 3 years now claims etc, I should be back before no claims expires

Blazer

it couldn't;t be too much more I imagine, Iwent from 2l to 3l litre and it only cost me €72 and that was only 2 months into my policy.

ShadowHearth

Liking this, just drop in price from 6k+

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-xj6-2-7-diesel-luxury/12849228

26000 Elephants

Blazer wrote: »

This looks pretty good..I was admiring one previously back a few posts but its sold. This one is a grand cheaper which kinda worries me but I know nothing about these cars.

I'd advise you to do a lot of research before you decide on one. They can be the biggest money pit of a car, especially the 350 petrol, but I think the CDI's have their own issues.

If you find one, make sure the timing chain has been done recently. Its not a case if if they stretch, but when.

pcardin

26000 Elephants wrote: »

Blazer wrote: »

This looks pretty good..I was admiring one previously back  a few posts but its sold. This one is a grand cheaper which kinda worries me but I know nothing about these cars.

I'd advise you to do a lot of research before you decide on one. They can be the biggest money pit of a car, especially the 350 petrol, but I think the CDI's have their own issues.

If you find one, make sure the timing chain has been done recently. Its not a case if if they stretch, but when.

true. Timing chain most likely was never changed on this, Very expensive thing to do.

Blazer

pcardin wrote: »

true. Timing chain most likely was never changed on this, Very expensive thing to do.

never realised that..so its not just BMW timing chains but Mercs as well that have issues..always good to know.

seems to be only on the 2004-2006 versions..and only 1500 were affected with Merc offering a free repair.
Of course you'd need to check the Car VIN I imagine to determine the engine in this one and if it was one of the rectified batches in 2006.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/08/mercedes-hit-with-timing-chain-issues/

Mooooo

With 07/06 cars heading past the 10 year marks insurance going to be an even bigger issue with barges of this age and up?

unkel

Blazer wrote: »

never realised that..so its not just BMW timing chains

There are no BMW luxobarges with timing chain problems

(only affects the 4 cylinder diesel engine)

James Bond Junior

unkel wrote: »

There are no BMW luxobarges with timing chain problems

(only affects the 4 cylinder diesel engine)

The 6 cylinder m57 has been known to eat timing chains too but not as commonly as the n47.

26000 Elephants

James Bond Junior wrote: »

The 6 cylinder m57 has been known to eat timing chains too but not as commonly as the n47.

"has been known " to so something is different to a recognised design fault. Any chain equipped engine that is not serviced properly will have chain issues.

Its important to recognise the distinction when buying second hand, so issues become a chance occurrence rather than a near certainty.

Always buy from a position of knowledge, and always buy on condition and history.

millington

James Bond Junior wrote: »

The 6 cylinder m57 has been known to eat timing chains too but not as commonly as the n47.

It's the N57 that uses the same chain set up as the N47.

Failure can happen the M57s but it's very rare.

Ded_Zebra

26000 Elephants wrote: »

"has been known " to so something is different to a recognised design fault. Any chain equipped engine that is not serviced properly will have chain issues.

Its important to recognise the distinction when buying second hand, so issues become a chance occurrence rather than a near certainty.

Always buy from a position of knowledge, and always buy on condition and history.

I think failures are just as common when worked out per unit sold. They just sold a lot more 4 bangers in this country so they get a worse name for it.

Ninap

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Liking this, just drop in price from 6k+

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-xj6-2-7-diesel-luxury/12849228

Just serviced and NCT'd too. Bit miley, but nice.

ollieo

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/one-of-a-kind-04-lexus-gs-300-nct-2018/14446778

Luxobarge or Bangernomics?

NCT til March 18, 1900

bear1

Why one of a kind?

Eric Cartman

bear1 wrote: »

Why one of a kind?

no idea, has the steering wheel shift buttons but aside from that is base spec, no nav even. Its not a bad looking car in decent shape but its nothing super special.

Soarer

bear1 wrote: »

Why one of a kind?

Well I've never seen another car with that number plate before!

humberklog

The silver GS 300 ^^^

Do you see the panel on the front that holds the number plate?
To my eye that looks a really dated design/or cheap/or just wrong.

unkel

That's just a plate surround, isn't it? Don't like them myself, but a lot of people do. Very easy to "customise" your car a bit by having a surround with personalised text on it.

Blazer

unkel wrote: »

There are no BMW luxobarges with timing chain problems

(only affects the 4 cylinder diesel engine)

that's why I bought a straight 6

166man

unkel wrote: »

There are no BMW luxobarges with timing chain problems

(only affects the 4 cylinder diesel engine)

Unfortunately the N57 engine is prone to it. We just hear about it less because there were so few sold after 2008.

Ded_Zebra

166man wrote: »

Unfortunately the N57 engine is prone to it. We just hear about it less because there were so few sold after 2008.

Yep, just as many failures/unit sold as the 4 cylinder.

You would want your head examined if planning to buy either :eek:

26000 Elephants

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

Yep, just as many failures/unit sold as the 4 cylinder.

You would want your head examined if planning to buy either :eek:

I didnt know that. Where did you get the figures for that?

I thought n57 failures were rare enough

Blazer

26000 Elephants wrote: »

I didnt know that. Where did you get the figures for that?

I thought n57 failures were rare enough

They are a lot rarer but not unheard of. The fallout definitely isn't as high as the N47.

26000 Elephants

Blazer wrote: »

They are a lot rarer but not unheard of. The fallout definitely isn't as high as the N47.

But he said "same failure/unit rate as n47" ?

Ded_Zebra

26000 Elephants wrote: »

But he said "same failure/unit rate as n47" ?

I read an article or a post somewhere online probably about 18 months ago, annoyingly I cannot find it now...

It included a graph of sales of each engine in the UK vs failures. AFAIR they were all figures according to BMW in the UK. Failures were something like 12% less common in the N57 as opposed to the N47.

ollieo

The CL500 id for sale again, anyone remember what price it was advertised last time?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/cl-5000/14455160

Duke O Smiley

ollieo wrote: »

The CL500 id for sale again, anyone remember what price it was advertised last time?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/cl-5000/14455160

€2250 reduced to €1950

JP 1800

Absolute dreamer at that price, one of the ABC components fail and the car is a write off at that age.

punisher5112

That should be in dreamer thread. €4750

JP 1800

Better value CL and a facelift too.
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-cl500-amg-just-passed-nct/13497546

Voodoomelon

That's actually in excellent nick. Inside anyways, always hard to tell with silver in pictures.

unkel

And what a car for the money. CL500 was about €150k-€160k new. Without any options.

marketty

Wow really? E10k a year depreciation makes the top rate of tax seem fairly trivial doesn't it?! 200 quid a week for 14 years!!

unkel

Because of our €1,809 motor tax, that car is as cheap as it is