LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

Duke O Smiley

Yeah, it’s an early model packed with new (at the time) technology. Things were bound to break and they did, and still do. I have absolutely no experience with this model but have read a lot over the years on their problems.

The photos in that particular ad are a bit dodgy too. First thing that spring to mind was why is the seller standing so far away? Is he or she hiding something on the paintwork?

Voodoomelon

All the same, offer him €1800 today and he'd take it. These things were, and still are, so overpriced when new.

emergencylime

That S80 is the beans! Not seen one with that spec, an ex-demo perhaps?

Blazer

It's just done a new nct so what's the risk.
And most people don't really have a clue about taking pics. He probably thought it looked better that far away to get a better profile.

commited

Blazer wrote: »

It's just done a new nct so what's the risk.
And most people don't really have a clue about taking pics. He probably thought it looked better that far away to get a better profile.

NCT provides no real certainty regarding the condition of a car. The suspension on these cars = big bills if it goes wrong and they can be an electrical nightmare.
They are absolutely beautiful though, drove one years ago.

griffin100

Blazer wrote: »

It's just done a new nct so what's the risk.
And most people don't really have a clue about taking pics. He probably thought it looked better that far away to get a better profile.

I brought a barge for an NCT last Thursday as part of a test drive. It failed on a rear suspension imbalance. Not too bad thought I. I then brought it to my mechanic and we put it on the ramp. Both front tyres were so bald they had the wire showing and there was a hughe amount of play on the passenger front wheel due to a wishbone that required replacement. Don't assume the NCT is an indicator of condition.

Blazer

griffin100 wrote: »

I brought a barge for an NCT last Thursday as part of a test drive. It failed on a rear suspension imbalance. Not too bad thought I. I then brought it to my mechanic and we put it on the ramp. Both front tyres were so bald they had the wire showing and there was a hughe amount of play on the passenger front wheel due to a wishbone that required replacement. Don't assume the NCT is an indicator of condition.

But it failed.
This one passed the nct so suspension should be fine.
Tyres should be fine. The only thing that could be a problem is maybe engine related but the fact that the car passed the nct at least shows what’s good.

jayo26

Blazer wrote: »

But it failed.
This one passed the nct so suspension should be fine.
Tyres should be fine. The only thing that could be a problem is maybe engine related but the fact that the car passed the nct at least shows what’s good.

I think his point was it only failed on the suspension but it had other problems that it passed on.

I'd never judge a car on an nct even take an imbalance for example with the breaks they are just checking that they are both wearing at the same rate but not checking that maybe the discs are nearly worn down.

Suspensions are even worse they are checking that they getting similar readings on both suspension but they both could be nearly knackered and on a car like that need changing parts of suspension would make the car worthless again you factor in everything else.

Blazer

jayo26 wrote: »

I think his point was it only failed on the suspension but it had other problems that it passed on.

I'd never judge a car on an nct even take an imbalance for example with the breaks they are just checking that they are both wearing at the same rate but not checking that maybe the discs are nearly worn down.

Suspensions are even worse they are checking that they getting similar readings on both suspension but they both could be nearly knackered and on a car like that need changing parts of suspension would make the car worthless again you factor in everything else.

The suspension tests don’t work like that.
I have put my previous car through and both frontsides were outside tolerance. Off to BMW and had them cover the items it failed on.

jayo26

Blazer wrote: »

The suspension tests don’t work like that.
I have put my previous car through and both frontsides were outside tolerance. Off to BMW and had them cover the items it failed on.

Has it changed? Wasn't suspensions done on imbalance? Yes they had to be inside a certain minimum but the minimum wouldn't be that high.

mickdw

Blazer wrote: »

The suspension tests don’t work like that.
I have put my previous car through and both frontsides were outside tolerance. Off to BMW and had them cover the items it failed on.

They do just check imbalance plus visual. They have no way of measuring whether shocks are performing to required spec.

jayo26

mickdw wrote: »

They do just check imbalance plus visual. They have no way of measuring whether shocks are performing to required spec.

Knew I wasn't crazy.

Blazer

jayo26 wrote: »

Knew I wasn't crazy.

Should be a bounce test

Teddington Cuddlesworth

griffin100 wrote: »

I brought a barge for an NCT last Thursday as part of a test drive. It failed on a rear suspension imbalance. Not too bad thought I. I then brought it to my mechanic and we put it on the ramp. Both front tyres were so bald they had the wire showing and there was a hughe amount of play on the passenger front wheel due to a wishbone that required replacement. Don't assume the NCT is an indicator of condition.

That's a patient seller!

griffin100

Teddington Cuddlesworth wrote: »

That's a patient seller!

Yes he was Small dealer, he knew I was seriously interested, it's a difficult sell and the NCT only had until Feb to run so he agreed to let me have it NCT'd at my expense and my mechanic check it. Very fair of him. I'm waiting on part costs based on NCT and inspection before I hopefully make an offer.

m17

https://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/mercedes-benz/s-class-s350/6026517448433111594232006 Mercedes Benz s class 159,995kms nct 28/02/18 tax 05/18 €5995

Duke O Smiley

That is lovely! Not a fan of the updated taillights but that’s only a small thing. Looks great otherwise

m17

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

That is lovely! Not a fan of the updated taillights but that’s only a small thing. Looks great otherwise

That amg Kit and those 20 inch alloys are the business

Glen_Quagmire

m17 wrote:

That amg Kit and those 20 inch alloys are the business

Gorgeous car, hard to believe what you can get for under 6k these days

Voodoomelon

€1809 tax would irk me for a 3.5L V6. If i'm paying top rate, its V8 or V12 or don't bother! That shape still looks remarkably fresh all the same.

Glen_Quagmire

Voodoomelon wrote:

€1809 tax would irk me for a 3.5L V6. If i'm paying top rate, its V8 or V12 or don't bother! That shape still looks remarkably fresh all the same.

Out of curiosity what would you get in a V8 or V12 for around 6k?

mickdw

What are those petrols of that vintage like?
That type S class can generate serious bills but perhaps some are diesel related.

Voodoomelon

Glen_Quagmire wrote: »

Out of curiosity what would you get in a V8 or V12 for around 6k?

Lots of options, A8s 4.2l, E38 740s/750s, E60 550s if you can find one, E65 7s 745/740/750/760 (yes 760s can be had at this price), S500s, CL500s/600s, Range Rovers, XJs. You'd be stepping back the years most likely, but its only recently this thread became about lower displacement Lexus/Volvo models (not that theres anything wrong with that), for years this thread was mostly all the cars mentioned above. Harder to find the V12s of course, but V8s in this bracket are abundant, albeit not always good buys.

mullingar

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Lots of options, A8s 4.2l, E38 740s/750s, E60 550s if you can find one, E65 7s 745/740/750/760 (yes 760s can be had at this price), S500s, CL500s/600s, Range Rovers, XJs. You'd be stepping back the years most likely, but its only recently this thread became about lower displacement Lexus/Volvo models (not that theres anything wrong with that), for years this thread was mostly all the cars mentioned above. Harder to find the V12s of course, but V8s in this bracket are abundant, albeit not always good buys.

760i you say?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-7-series-2004/17353238

Duke O Smiley

mullingar wrote: »

760i you say?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-7-series-2004/17353238

Pino Harris' old car

He went a bit more green with the replacement..

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-ls-ls-600h/13751324

Voodoomelon

The engine is the main thing going for that 760, incredible someone would spend €170,000 on a car with no heated seats and a whole range of other options.

Blazer

Not sure if someone has posted this already but its now at the 5k mark.
I'd get it myself if I sold my F10 in the morning as I'm gonna need 2 cards for the future.


https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-e60-530i-msport/17420371

ongarite

Blazer wrote: »

Not sure if someone has posted this already but its now at the 5k mark.
I'd get it myself if I sold my F10 in the morning as I'm gonna need 2 cards for the future.


https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-e60-530i-msport/17420371

Lovely car but dreaming at that price.
At least 2K overpriced.
No interior pics too.
No mention of rocker cover gasket replacement or VANOS seals.

bazz26

Voodoomelon wrote: »

The engine is the main thing going for that 760, incredible someone would spend €170,000 on a car with no heated seats and a whole range of other options.

I think what's I find more incredible is that a 170k car doesn't come with heated seats as standard.

Truckermal

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Pino Harris' old car

He went a bit more green with the replacement..

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-ls-ls-600h/13751324

They want 18K for that!

grogi

Truckermal wrote: »

They want 18K for that!

Rotfl...

m17

Truckermal wrote: »

They want 18K for that!

he'll be lucky to get 12K for it

Truckermal

m17 wrote: »

he'll be lucky to get 12K for it

I was thinking about 8k....:P

The NCT is out nearly 2 years!

Furzy

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/genuine-lexus-ls-430-quick-sale/17583020

..... can’t see this one lasting long - asking €2.5k.

Truckermal

He also has another ad which is older looking for €3,400, it's a steal at that price.

kupus

Truckermal wrote: »

He also has another ad which is older looking for €3,400, it's a steal at that price.

How is that for an lpg conversion?

grogi

kupus wrote: »

How is that for an lpg conversion?

Toyota 3UZ-FE - indirect fuel injection. Sounds doable.

mullingar

I've a lpg'd 2004 Ls430. It runs perfectly on it. €50 gets 500-600km...

Atlantic Dawn

Furzy wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/genuine-lexus-ls-430-quick-sale/17583020

..... can’t see this one lasting long - asking €2.5k.

Putting the timing belt change note in Tipp-Ex on the engine is like a red rag to a bull for me, what idiot does that, did he get some lad to change it at the back of a pub or worse still not get it changed at all? How hard is it to keep a receipt as evidence it was changed :mad:

eeguy

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Putting the timing belt change note in Tipp-Ex on the engine is like a red rag to a bull for me, what idiot does that, did he get some lad to change it at the back of a pub or worse still not get it changed at all? How hard is it to keep a receipt as evidence it was changed :mad:

I've seen that done on a fair few cars. My own has it tippexed on the engine cover.

beertons

eeguy wrote: »

I've seen that done on a fair few cars. My own has it tippexed on the engine cover.

Mine too. Hardly a game changer.

Duke O Smiley

Sure its no game changer, but AD says - how hard is it to hold onto a receipt!?

mickdw

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Sure its no game changer, but AD says - how hard is it to hold onto a receipt!?

I saw a chap buy a vectra from a latvian fella with a full service history written on the air box in fresh tippex and poor spelling. Delighted with the purchase he was.

bear1

mickdw wrote: »

I saw a chap buy a vectra from a latvian fella with a full service history written on the air box in fresh tippex and poor spelling. Delighted with the purchase he was.

Says more about the buyer than the seller.

grogi

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Sure its no game changer, but AD says - how hard is it to hold onto a receipt!?

How hard is it to print a receipt?

bazz26

Receipts leave paper trails when your paying Joe the mechanic living across the road, in cash lads. A bottle of Tippex is cheaper and less traceable. :pac:

Bigus

bazz26 wrote: »

Receipts leave paper trails when your paying Joe the mechanic living across the road, in cash lads. A bottle of Tippex is cheaper and less traceable. :pac:

Did ye hear about the mechanic who swallowed a bottle of tippex and a viagra ?



He woke up with an enormous









....correction.

racso1975

bazz26 wrote: »

Receipts leave paper trails when your paying Joe the mechanic living across the road, in cash lads. A bottle of Tippex is cheaper and less traceable. :pac:

This....to a certain extent. My mechanic (who's a proper mechanic) does me a cash price on all work. If I was selling it I'd gladly supply his number for anybody to contact to talk about service history and work done

grogi

bazz26 wrote: »

Receipts leave paper trails when your paying Joe the mechanic living across the road, in cash lads. A bottle of Tippex is cheaper and less traceable. :pac:

Sure, but will Joe Spanner let you do cross-check his books?

Unless I can call a garage (or the owner - privacy issues of course) and independently get a printout of all the work done on the car, the receipt is worth only marginally more than tippex.

bazz26

grogi wrote: »

Sure, but will Joe Spanner let you do cross-check his books?

Unless I can call a garage (or the owner - privacy issues of course) and independently get a printout of all the work done on the car, the receipt is worth only marginally more than tippex.

You seem to be missing my point. The reason most people don't keep receipts from work done is because they get the work done as cheap as possible which usually means cash in hand, no VAT, etc. Of course someone could do up their own fake receipts instead of using Tippex but it's generally not the main reason people don't keep or get receipts for work done.