LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

Sam Russell

Top Dog wrote: »

Insurance companies charge more for the first instalment, with 10 more payments and a break in the last month - not the same thing as what you've proposed

Plus you can freeze or transfer an insurance policy, where tax is specific to one car.

I also suggested that Motor Tax should be able to be refunded without the car having to be scrapped. Of course because Motor Tax is charge by the month or part of a month.

These are suggestions, and of course it is possible to pick holes, but suggest something that could be acceptable and would not cost too much rather than misunderstanding it.

KevRossi

elperello wrote: »

The rationale for the reduced motor tax rate is that a taxi/hackney is an SPSV ie. a small public service vehicle.

It forms part of the infrastructure of the public transport system complementing buses, trams, trains etc.

If the vehicles were taxed at the higher rate it would just be passed on to the customers.

Don't want to go off topic here, but they are private businesses, they should not be regarded as public transport. The cost per trip would be very small compared to the amount of trips they do in a year.

FWIW motor tax should be added to fuel IMO, like they do in France. It's the right time to do it, as well over half the cars on the road are taxed under the emissions rate and are paying under €400 pa for motor tax.

elperello

KevRossi wrote: »

Don't want to go off topic here, but they are private businesses, they should not be regarded as public transport. The cost per trip would be very small compared to the amount of trips they do in a year.

FWIW motor tax should be added to fuel IMO, like they do in France. It's the right time to do it, as well over half the cars on the road are taxed under the emissions rate and are paying under €400 pa for motor tax.

Luas and private buses are private businesses forming part of public transport too. Zero sum game to increase tax and have it taken back from customers.

Agree re. add to fuel but it would favour people taking shorter journeys on the roads which need to have use limited ie. cities.

Top Dog

Sam Russell wrote: »

These are suggestions, and of course it is possible to pick holes, but suggest something that could be acceptable and would not cost too much rather than misunderstanding it.

I did suggest something.

Take the annual fee, divide it by 12, and pay monthly. No interest. No penalties. No uneven payments. No awkward admin or paperwork. Why complicate things when there's a simple option

Rows Grower

Top Dog wrote: »

I did suggest something.

Take the annual fee, divide it by 12, and pay monthly. No interest. No penalties. No uneven payments. No awkward admin or paperwork. Why complicate things when there's a simple option

You new around these parts stranger?

ToxicPaddy

Adding tax onto fuel would make avoidance of paying motor tax impossible and as said earlier, if you use the car less you pay less tax.

An option for businesses would to get rebates twice a year on the additional cost they pay in fuel. It would also encourage more business vehicles to go towards the hybrid or more efficient models.

But it would impact those with classic cars etc who currently pay a lower tax rate however classic cars are limited to a lower mileage, 5000 miles a year iirc so it may balance out.

the_syco

ToxicPaddy wrote: »

Adding tax onto fuel

So... more fuel tax onto fuel the current fuel tax?

• Excise: per litre, 54.18 cents for petrol and 42.57 cents for diesel (The excise duty on fuel is levied on a per-litre basis and not as a percentage of the price, which means when the cost of fuel falls, the tax remains at the same level.
• NORA levy: per litre, funds the National Oil Reserves Agency (NORA), 2.00 cent per litre for both diesel and petrol;
• Carbon tax: per litre, 4.59 cents for petrol and 5.33 cents for diesel;
• Biofuel obligation: the State obliges oil companies to ensure that 6% of their volume of all motor fuels is from renewable sources such as ethanol or biodiesel. Oil companies meet this obligation in a variety of ways and the blending mix for each product may differ between different companies. The net effect currently is to add about 1.5 cents to a litre of petrol and about 3 cents to a litre of diesel – (to both of which VAT is added at 23%);
• Better Energy Levy: 0.12 cents per litre.
• VAT: 23% on all of the above. The amount of VAT therefore rises and falls with the cost of product.

ToxicPaddy

the_syco wrote: »

So... more fuel tax onto fuel the current fuel tax?

• Excise: per litre, 54.18 cents for petrol and 42.57 cents for diesel (The excise duty on fuel is levied on a per-litre basis and not as a percentage of the price, which means when the cost of fuel falls, the tax remains at the same level.
• NORA levy: per litre, funds the National Oil Reserves Agency (NORA), 2.00 cent per litre for both diesel and petrol;
• Carbon tax: per litre, 4.59 cents for petrol and 5.33 cents for diesel;
• Biofuel obligation: the State obliges oil companies to ensure that 6% of their volume of all motor fuels is from renewable sources such as ethanol or biodiesel. Oil companies meet this obligation in a variety of ways and the blending mix for each product may differ between different companies. The net effect currently is to add about 1.5 cents to a litre of petrol and about 3 cents to a litre of diesel – (to both of which VAT is added at 23%);
• Better Energy Levy: 0.12 cents per litre.
• VAT: 23% on all of the above. The amount of VAT therefore rises and falls with the cost of product.

Yes I know there is a high tax on fuel already but the current system just doesn't work so its one possible alternative.

On another note, its going to be interesting to see what the government does in the future if there is a large scale move to EVs. They will lose large amounts of income from motor tax and also from the tax on fuel.

Top Dog

Rows Grower wrote: »

You new around these parts stranger?

Nah

Just an eternal optimist hoping that some day, somehow, someone might make sensible decisions. I know it's fantasy, but with all the doom and gloom lately I have to have something to hope for :pac:

Tea drinker

ToxicPaddy wrote: »

Adding tax onto fuel would make avoidance of paying motor tax impossible and as said earlier, if you use the car less you pay less tax.

An option for businesses would to get rebates twice a year on the additional cost they pay in fuel. It would also encourage more business vehicles to go towards the hybrid or more efficient models.

But it would impact those with classic cars etc who currently pay a lower tax rate however classic cars are limited to a lower mileage, 5000 miles a year iirc so it may balance out.

Why get rid of one when you can keep her lit on two? IMHO Both taxes are going up, and "mid level polluting cars" are going to be hit hard in motor tax.
Never mind the actual pollution from EV but lets move on quickly before we dissappear down a black hole on that
There's a very strong drive in Dublin to get cars off the road by sabotaging the roads and needlessly eliminating parking spaces. Keep in mind Green party ideas about one car per village and you'll not be far off the mantra.

Top Dog wrote: »

Just an eternal optimist hoping that some day, somehow, someone might make sensible decisions.

1. Get rid of polluting cars
2. ????
3. Profit!!!

Sam Russell

Any barges coming into view?

biko

Next 3 posts must be about luxobarges

KevRossi

<not luxo barge post>

Sam Russell

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-ls460-v8-360bhp/26181591

Lexus Ls460 V8 360Bhp €5,200

Truckermal

Sam Russell wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-ls460-v8-360bhp/26181591

Lexus Ls460 V8 360Bhp €5,200

That was for sale in Mallow last week for a awful lot less than that! I'd be getting that well checked over too as I'm sure it was for sale in Mallow about a year ago with overheating issues.

ek motor

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-730d-including-playstation-vr-mega-pk-/26026738

An original sales angle he's gone for

Mickiemcfist

ek motor wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-730d-including-playstation-vr-mega-pk-/26026738

An original sales angle he's gone for

Thinking outside the box alright..

What does the average 7 series buyer want?
A PlayStation for their grandkid of course!!

I Was VB

W221 needing some tlc

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/26152170

Very cheap at €2.5k!

California Dreamer

I Was VB wrote: »

W221 needing some tlc

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/26152170

Very cheap at €2.5k!

Give it a wash and take some pictures in a place that doesn't look like a halting site and someone might bite!

CoBo55

I Was VB wrote: »

W221 needing some tlc

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/26152170

Very cheap at €2.5k!

He'll be price slashing a few times before she's towed off the site...

I Was VB

I Was VB wrote: »

W221 needing some tlc

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/26152170

Very cheap at €2.5k!

13 years old, 323700 km, sitting up for last 12 months which coincides with NCT expiry & ABS / TRACTION LIGHTS ON.

€2500 doesn't seem cheap tbh, definitely not very cheap.

Petrol s class

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/huge-spec-mercedes-benz-s350-s-class-new-nct/25505337



96,000 km, 2005 reg, sold with new NCT according to add, current one expired in Mar 19......

€2950 from a trader with 6 adds up......... approx €100k of metal for sale

b.c

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-s320-cdi-2007-tax-ampnct/26173181

galwaytt

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagen-phaeton/26081869



Nice looking 2010 Phaeton, NCT til February 2021 and tax all the way til July 2021, €5500

Miles are a bit high but it could be a nice buy, claims of new Uniroyals and the long tax are good signs IMO

I know who runs (ran) that as a private hire limo for airport runs etc. Serviced on the nose: also runs a few others for the same thing, including a Panamera....

California Dreamer

galwaytt wrote: »

€5500

Could almost put that in dreamer territory!:D

E36Ross

E36Ross wrote: »

Before I deal with the dreaded DoneDeal dreamers and 5 lads turning up in a Vito.

I have a 2006 S320CDi (W220) NCT 2/21 & Taxed until June!!

Asking €2,995

PM me and ill give you a full honest description.

I now have this on DoneDeal. https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-s320cdi-quotlong-tax-nct-quot/26086144

Surprisingly iv only had a few 'Your last price' messages so far.

California Dreamer

E36Ross wrote: »

'Your last price'

€3500

Mess with their heads! ;)

Eric Cartman

Augeo wrote: »

Petrol s class

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/huge-spec-mercedes-benz-s350-s-class-new-nct/25505337



96,000 km, 2005 reg, sold with new NCT according to add, current one expired in Mar 19......

€2950 from a trader with 6 adds up......... approx €100k of metal for sale

How bright and clean that steering wheel is worries me, 96,000km shouldn't have it looking bad enough to replace, and its definitely been replaced.

blindside88

Eric Cartman wrote: »

How bright and clean that steering wheel is worries me, 96,000km shouldn't have it looking bad enough to replace, and its definitely been replaced.

Is it possible it had a steering wheel cover on it?

Eric Cartman

blindside88 wrote: »

Is it possible it had a steering wheel cover on it?

in theory anythings possible, but I'd be verifying the low mileage.

at9qu5vp0wcix7

Awful lot of tax paid over the years for such little mileage. The seat bolster on the drivers side isn't in any pictures, that's normally where you want to look for wear and tear after the steering wheel.

the_syco

The "new" NCT is 03/03/2021, so the ad has probably been recycled a bit?

Always suspicious of a blank dash.

ofcork

Wheels from a W221 on a W220.

2smiggy

Eric Cartman wrote: »

in theory anythings possible, but I'd be verifying the low mileage.

any way of doing this without seeing the NCT reports ? not for this car, but another I am looking at. Any way of checking these myself ?

traco

No way of seeing the NCT unfortunately, unlike the UK MOT system

Eric Cartman

Eric Cartman wrote: »

How bright and clean that steering wheel is worries me, 96,000km shouldn't have it looking bad enough to replace, and its definitely been replaced.

Definitely ?You can tell that from relatively poor pictures or is it the wrong wheel for the car or what?

Getting stuff bright and shiny isn't overly difficult surely.

Example here from buffshop detailing from instagram yesterday

KevRossi

BMW 740i, €3,500. NCT to 01/21, but says in ad it has a new one. Nice colours, nice alloys, poor ad, needs a wash, so might not be the best looked after.

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/bmw-740i/26212158

Philip M5

KevRossi wrote: »

BMW 740i, €3,500. NCT to 01/21, but says in ad it has a new one. Nice colours, nice alloys, poor ad, needs a wash, so might not be the best looked after.

Alloys are reps for a start and looks like ebay Alpina badges added.

BonnieSituation

Would ya reckon he even knows what those Alpina badges are about?

bazz26

Alpina never made a 740i, they made a B7 though.

Eric Cartman

also 'full spec'
it has heated seats, thats the only option on it.

TommyGun2017

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2001-bmw-728i/25964806?campaign=14

Sticking with the 7 series theme but a more classic design. Wonder if it was spec'ed with the James Bond remote remote control? These things are glorious IMO

Voodoomelon

The last 2001 model year always popped up odd spec combos, I don't think i've seen a 728i before with double glazing. Adaptive suspension too which is nice.

Eric Cartman

Voodoomelon wrote: »

The last 2001 model year always popped up odd spec combos, I don't think i've seen a 728i before with double glazing. Adaptive suspension too which is nice.

adaptive suspension, comfort seats, nav, the clear light pack but still halogen headlights and its the 6 cylinder, its an odd spec alright, its like they started building a 750 from the back forward, got to the front and the parts bin had no V12 or xenons left :pac:

Truckermal

Voodoomelon wrote: »

The last 2001 model year always popped up odd spec combos, I don't think i've seen a 728i before with double glazing. Adaptive suspension too which is nice.

The nicest 7er ever made IMO I see you still have the pressed plates of your one in the Garage still!

crazyjim

That driver's seat puts me right off it for some reason. Like Helmut Kohl used to own it or something.

crazyjim

Augeo wrote: »

Petrol s class

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/huge-spec-mercedes-benz-s350-s-class-new-nct/25505337



96,000 km, 2005 reg, sold with new NCT according to add, current one expired in Mar 19......

€2950 from a trader with 6 adds up......... approx €100k of metal for sale

Price drop to €2,650. I think sellers need a reality check on their Barge asking prices.

Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-730d/24738811?campaign=8



Nicely spec'd 730d, €4750

Sunroof, comfort access, adaptive cruise, heated/active comfort seats

Eric Cartman

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-730d/24738811?campaign=8



Nicely spec'd 730d, €4750

Sunroof, comfort access, adaptive cruise, heated/active comfort seats

thats a decent machine for an alright price, if you could get the price down a few hundred it would be a very solid bit of motoring ready to munch a load more miles, new turbo and all.

I'd be interested to see receipts for turbo (to see who did it & why & how many miles done since)..... Could be buying trouble. A 14 year old 250k kms 730d needing a turbo is approaching scrap territory IMO.