LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

Padre_Pio

frozenfrozen wrote: »

donedeal people would have you think fully loaded is leather and remote central locking

2 many xtras 2 mention

Padre_Pio

Eric Cartman wrote: »

On the infotainment side - lightyears ahead , on the actual driving systems and true luxury features theres been little progress in material quality and aside from adding a scent diffuser or better AI suspension systems theres not a lot that makes it more confortable

I'd argue the actual features have still changed very little.

Things get a bit flashier looking, better graphics, faster response, but not much else. I'd say it's only in the last 5 years that cars have Bluetooth and USB ports as standard, very few cars have USB ports where you actually need them, like outside the glove box or centre console.

frozenfrozen

That recently new A8 has the system where it squats or lifts in side impacts. must be other stuff like that which will only reveal itself as a rare option when we are buying them for 5k in 15 years

Lurching

I wonder whether €5k is a good number to limit this thread by nowadays.
Sub €5k is entering ruined high-miler territory now.

Decent looking machines tend to be just over €5k now.

I know the cut-off was changed a few years ago. What was it before that?

Duke O Smiley

There was no limit until a few years ago.

IMO this thread was better with no price limit, always good to be able to discuss a barge of any price point when something interesting pops up on Donedeal.

Sam Russell

Perhaps there should be a lower limit on the cars original list price - say €80,000 or €100,000 and a 90% or 95% depreciation.

High mileage and high owner count tend to reduce the price - often turning them into undesirable cars.

The key should be desirability.

KevRossi

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

There was no limit until a few years ago.

IMO this thread was better with no price limit, always good to be able to discuss a barge of any price point when something interesting pops up on Donedeal.

Maybe a 'Luxobarge' and a 'Luxobargeonomics' thread?


Luxobargeonomics sounds a bit German.:)

Top Dog

KevRossi wrote: »

But the LS was loaded for it's time, so should be considered 'fully loaded'. You can't argue that a car doesn't have options that were unavailable at the time it was ordered.

If that's the case a fully loaded 1990 Toyota Century or E32 750iL could never be a barge in today's world.

I think it's all a case of perception.

I think you may be misunderstanding the discussion. Nobody is saying that they're not barges, they're saying that they don't count as "fully loaded" barges. So your example of an E32 750iL was, and always will be, a barge. But whether it qualifies as fully loaded will depend on the options it came with.

trellheim

But whether it qualifies as fully loaded will depend on the options it came with.

now we are talking./.... "that were available at the time"

Padre_Pio

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

There was no limit until a few years ago.

IMO this thread was better with no price limit, always good to be able to discuss a barge of any price point when something interesting pops up on Donedeal.

How often do people keep to the limit though/ Plenty of cars here are over €5k.

A price limit keeps it interesting. You can post high-cost cars all day long, but the cheap gems are what makes this thread interesting.

Can't be too snobby when the things are half w@nked sh1tboxes more often than not, despite what the spec is.
There's been things posted here that are in rag order.

Padre_Pio

Augeo wrote: »

Can't be too snobby when the things are half w@nked sh1tboxes more often than not, despite what the spec is.
There's been things posted here that are in rag order.

One mans trash is another mans treasure

And vice versa :D:D

Indeed, when an example in decent condition comes along within budget though the chat about the spec is a bit OTT IMO.

traco

I agree that features should be relevant to the time of the car. Watching done deal lately there seems to be an increase in prices of the tidy examples with the parts / possible fixer upper at the 1.5 - 2k bracket.

The suggestion of original price and the target market of the car new is a good criteria. I saw a nice lwb jag on DD today but didn't post it as the price was above 5k. My w221 isn't relevent to this thread either to be fair and my Singapore spec W220 S280 is about as basic an S class as you can get. It does score well on the wafty barge side though.

I wonder if we have hit the bottom of the barge bucket at this stage and prices will hold of rise going forward?

Buddy Bubs

Has much post 08 stuff cropped up here yet?

Will a 500 euro tax car with reasonably economical diesel engine that will do up towards 40mpg drop to the same prices as a pre 08 with 1500 euro + price tag for a disc in the window every year that will struggle to do 25mpg driving like miss daisy is in the back?

That said, I'd imagine sales of flagship stuff fell off a cliff in 08 due to financial crash and there's less around than there would have been if Celtic tiger kept roaring

CiDeRmAn

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

First thing I do when I see an E65 7 series is look at the lower bumper grilles for lenses:



The one on the left is for adaptive cruise, and the one on the right is for night vision.

On the inside, the first sign of a well spec'd car is the amount of seat control buttons to the left of the driver:

How often does something like this come up?

Duke O Smiley

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

How often does something like this come up?

Very very rarely will an Irish car with all of those options appear on Donedeal. I think the one that did was a 06-LK 760Li, former JP McManus car, about two years ago.

One of my old 7 series' is on DoneDeal at the minute, it has night vision which you can just make out in the second picture. I'm fairly sure its the only one on DoneDeal at the minute with it

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-7-series-e66-lwb-high-spec-12-21-nct-05-tax/27304302

frozenfrozen

Used to be weekly a few years ago

CiDeRmAn

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Very very rarely will an Irish car with all of those options appear on Donedeal. I think the one that did was a 06-LK 760Li, former JP McManus car, about two years ago.

One of my old 7 series' is on DoneDeal at the minute, it has night vision which you can just make out in the second picture. I'm fairly sure its the only one on DoneDeal at the minute with it

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-7-series-e66-lwb-high-spec-12-21-nct-05-tax/27304302

That is one beautiful machine.
Have to decide if it would be worth changing the F10 for one of those!

Zurbaran

I’d agree that 5k is too low now. Reckon it could be upped by a few grand easily.

A few years ago this thread was ripe with great examples but now it seems a bit unrealistic to find a good one under 5k.

I Was VB

traco wrote: »

I agree that features should be relevant to the time of the car. Watching done deal lately there seems to be an increase in prices of the tidy examples with the parts / possible fixer upper at the 1.5 - 2k bracket.

The suggestion of original price and the target market of the car new is a good criteria. I saw a nice lwb jag on DD today but didn't post it as the price was above 5k. My w221 isn't relevent to this thread either to be fair and my Singapore spec W220 S280 is about as basic an S class as you can get. It does score well on the wafty barge side though.

I wonder if we have hit the bottom of the barge bucket at this stage and prices will hold of rise going forward?

Not many Irish W220 had a electric rear blind though!

traco

I Was VB wrote: »

Not many Irish W220 had a electric rear blind though!

It was obvioulsy the default option as opposed to a sunroof in Singapore.

m17

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/07-mercedes-benz-s320-cdi-amg-low-kms-high-spe/24486971

Midnight_EG

Diesels ain't barges IMO

Eric Cartman

m17 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/07-mercedes-benz-s320-cdi-amg-low-kms-high-spe/24486971

I really hate the taxi age regs as I still think that would make a class taxi, for personal fun ownership though its spec is poor sadly, that was definitely a company car.

Duke O Smiley

Rear seats are in an awful state for 110k miles!

Great looking car for the money though.

2smiggy

look at the tread from time to time, but after 8 years it's nearly at its 10000 post !!

I Was VB

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I really hate the taxi age regs as I still think that would make a class taxi, for personal fun ownership though its spec is poor sadly, that was definitely a company car.

Believe me I’d love to have a barge as my taxi!

traco

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Rear seats are in an awful state for 110k miles!

Great looking car for the money though.

Steering wheel leather is also worn and peeling. 100k miles on the interior of these is nothing so surpirsed at the steering and rear seats. Of course if may have been someone that didn't care. Alloys have been painted as the AMG face should be diamond cut so refurbed a while back. Spec is standard enough.

Lurching

traco wrote: »

Steering wheel leather is also worn and peeling. 100k miles on the interior of these is nothing so surpirsed at the steering and rear seats. Of course if may have been someone that didn't care. Alloys have been painted as the AMG face should be diamond cut so refurbed a while back. Spec is standard enough.

The top of the armrest is looking very rough too.
Nice looking machine, but it hasn't had an easy life.
If it's been treated that badly on the inside, I doubt there was much mechanical sympathy for the oily bits.

pcardin

Lurching wrote: »

The top of the armrest is looking very rough too.
Nice looking machine, but it hasn't had an easy life.
If it's been treated that badly on the inside, I doubt there was much mechanical sympathy for the oily bits.

100k miles on second round. Clocked most likely

Padre_Pio

http://www.adverts.ie/22969187

Nice seven series.

biko

10k limit almost reached, new thread here.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=116585665#post116585665