LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

delthedriver

Gorgeous S Class only 2 owners. How much was it new in 2004?

L-M

Well over 100k anyway.

Today's money with VRT etc I would imagine it would be well north of 150k.

daRobot

delthedriver wrote: »

Gorgeous S Class only 2 owners. How much was it new in 2004?

About 120k

It's just crazy how the luxobarges drop in value, compared to say a similarly priced 911 of the same vintage, which would still be 35-40k'ish.

Voodoomelon

The bodywork is a bit ropey, but that interior looks fantastic, individualised too by the looks of it. €2-3k for a suspension refresh, AMG wheels, service items and some bodywork and you'd have a cracker of a bargain.

unkel

Voodoomelon wrote: »

The bodywork is a bit ropey, but that interior looks fantastic, individualised too by the looks of it. €2-3k for a suspension refresh, AMG wheels, service items and some bodywork and you'd have a cracker of a bargain.

Your 7-series needs a big brother, go on buy it

Voodoomelon

When I get my house finished, i'll be availing of the value here, don't you worry!

L-M

Is it silver or that horrible Lavender colour?

delthedriver

Limerick man wrote: »

Is it silver or that horrible Lavender colour?

Aha, I thought I was going colour blind, TBH I am not sure, still at that money?:)

delthedriver

delthedriver wrote: »

Aha, I thought I was going colour blind, TBH I am not sure, still at that money?:)

It would appear to ne silver alright. Body work looks fine , minor mark on front bumper

lomb

daRobot wrote: »

About 120k

It's just crazy how the luxobarges drop in value, compared to say a similarly priced 911 of the same vintage, which would still be 35-40k'ish.

General public would see it as a liability. Big fuel guzzler, cant really keep up with the Jones in a 8 year old car, big road tax, fear of big parts bills after all the parts are based on a hundred grand car. This all applies also in the UK so its not just an Irish thing. 911 has rarity and looks/power on its side but even the prices of those haven fallen away in the last while. Still a great car though..

unkel

lomb wrote: »

General public would see it as a liability. Big fuel guzzler, cant really keep up with the Jones in a 8 year old car, big road tax, fear of big parts bills after all the parts are based on a hundred grand car.

Pretty much what the general public think. They're wrong though

There will be no big parts bills on a well built, low mileage, big engined, carefully checked out petrol automatic car. There just won't.

Tax (guts of 2k) is high but depreciation is zero. The depreciation in the first year of a new very basic family car is about 6k, you never get that back with cheaper tax

bear1

Even with a years tax that it still a bargain considering how much they were to begin with....
I was looking at the 320 petrol version of that a few weeks ago - pure luxury

rocky

Is this overpriced then?
2002 lwb S500 2750

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-s500-lwb-02/5650257

NCT 05-2014 tax 09-13

Black heated leather with cooling memory and massage functions

Dual zone climate control

Soft close doors with double glazed windows

Keyless entry and start

bear1

The one I looked at had the TV screen in the middle and heated rear seats but it was about 1.5k more.... Depends how well the car has been maintained in my opinion.

L-M

Only overpriced if youre a reg snob. Saw it yesterday, looks wayy nicer. But not the facelift? As someone mentioned

Viper_JB

Wow....that's some bargin, surely the parts have got to be worth way more then 3k if it were to be broken down.

Idbatterim

Tax (guts of 2k) is high but depreciation is zero. The depreciation in the first year of a new very basic family car is about 6k, you never get that back with cheaper tax

true and at that price, there isnt likely a loan to to boot, i.e. no interest... I reckon wqith the car, the colour is knocking at least 1k off it, I'm sure if it was black, it would be up at minimum 4k...

islanderre

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-cl-500/5667512

Incredible to believe a car like this can cost so little............. If enough numbers come up in the Lotto on saturday..... its mine!!!!!

L-M

Have to say i think they're one of the uglier Merc. Looks like someone that's really tired and has their eyes held open.

pajor

islanderre wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-cl-500/5667512

Incredible to believe a car like this can cost so little............. If enough numbers come up in the Lotto on saturday..... its mine!!!!!

Seems a bit shmokey..? Or was it just a cold morning?

Or just an eighteen year old Merc?

L-M

pajor wrote: »

Seems a bit shmokey..? Or was it just a cold morning?

Or just an eighteen year old Merc?

Cold morning. Tis September don't ya know :pac:

Marcusm

I'm right in thinking that Luxobarges don't need to be in bangernomics territory?

I've bored the chat thread with my interest in getting a 12 cyl and some of my test driving antics. I'm buying it with a mate (he's from Mullingar, I'm from Gorey but we've both lived in London for the last 17 years or so) and we both have other cars. The idea is to get a sports saloon for cruising, European trips etc. We've been through Jag XJRs, Daimler Super 8, Bentlet Flying Spur and (without wanting to jinx it), I think we've settled on the car in the photos and hope to be picking it up next week - 5.5L biturbo v12..


Edit: Sory should have said; late 2006, about £20k.

Sobanek

20k? Why not the W220 S65 AMG?

The incredible thing is that these cars costed over 100k new, and can be purchased for the fraction of the price, yet they still provide the same comfort as a brand new S-Class.

unkel

Sweet! Very well wear. What a cruiser for long distance trips

Marcusm wrote: »

Edit: Sory should have said; late 2006, about £20k.

There's probably none for sale over here in that condition, but if there was, it would cost less than half that :eek:

Marcusm

Sobanek wrote: »

20k? Why not the W220 S65 AMG?

The incredible thing is that these cars costed over 100k new, and can be purchased for the fraction of the price, yet they still provide the same comfort as a brand new S-Class.

That would be a bit older, not sure the extra power is required and less like a luxobarge. The S600L had a quicker 0-60 time than an equivalent vintage DB9 or Vanquish S for what that's worth. Also not sure it would be available in LWB. Purchase price was £118k; it has every option then available.

unkel wrote: »

Sweet! Very well wear. What a cruiser for long distance trips



There's probably none for sale over here in that condition, but if there was, it would cost less than half that :eek:

Even in the UK, it's practically the only one for sale. Not sure it woudl sell for 1/2 as much in Ireland as I think it would be exported PROVIDED it had a FSH. The differential is too much. Some of the XJRs and similar were Irish reg'd originally. Was very surprised.

Scortho

Marcusm wrote: »

I'm right in thinking that Luxobarges don't need to be in bangernomics territory?

I've bored the chat thread with my interest in getting a 12 cyl and some of my test driving antics. I'm buying it with a mate (he's from Mullingar, I'm from Gorey but we've both lived in London for the last 17 years or so) and we both have other cars. The idea is to get a sports saloon for cruising, European trips etc. We've been through Jag XJRs, Daimler Super 8, Bentlet Flying Spur and (without wanting to jinx it), I think we've settled on the car in the photos and hope to be picking it up next week - 5.5L biturbo v12..


Edit: Sory should have said; late 2006, about £20k.

You've bored the motors thread with your search for a 12 cylinder that most of us could only dream to own and run???
No you haven't!:D
We want more!:P

pajor

Marcusm wrote: »

The idea is to get a sports saloon for cruising, European trips etc. We've been through Jag XJRs, Daimler Super 8, Bentlet Flying Spur and (without wanting to jinx it), I think we've settled on the car in the photos and hope to be picking it up next week - 5.5L biturbo v12..

Anything worth doing is worth over doing.

Whole point of luxobarges I suppose.

pajor

I like anyway

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-xj8/5639536



You'd struggle to get more Jaaaaag for that money I'd say.

L-M

That's a whole lot of Noughties Jag for the money.

Marcusm

I'm raaaaaaaaaaaaaging. The head dealer is off for the day and the secretary assistant has just rung me to tell me that his offsider has sold the car this afternoon despite agreeing not to sell it without ringing me. I was happy to give them a deposit or the full price even yesterday but wanted a confirmed insurance quote.

After 3 more calls they claim they can source another one (their speciality apparently) but couldn't get themselves together to tell me this before letting me down. I now there's no sale until there's an agreed price but they have sold it for a decent wodge under the asking which the head dealer told me was put on the website in error - the assistant in reducing the price by £4k had moved it down to their minimum rather than moving it down £2k. Hilarious, they would even have had more money.

I don't have any claim on them but for a tiny operation working from a former petrol station, they don't seem to be very organised.

pajor

Marcusm wrote: »

I don't have any claim on them but for a tiny operation working from a former petrol station, they don't seem to be very organised.

That's just shoddy really.

Not wanting to play the devil's advocate, but should you really be parting with 20k to a crowd who don't seem that organised and on top of things?

Marcusm

pajor wrote: »

That's just shoddy really.

Not wanting to play the devil's advocate, but should you really be parting with 20k to a crowd who don't seem that organised and on top of things?

It hurts them more than me; when I called yesterday afternoon, I anticipated them pushing for a deposit and would have given it. I should have realised that the assistant didn't know her arse from her elbow. The fact that she had already misupdated the website (I believe that wasn't him spoofing me) and could take the time to call me 2 minutes after he put the deposit down rather than before he took it out for a test drive shows how they don't have an eye for the chance.

The car was topnotch; had an MB healthcheck that morning (MB main dealer willing to discuss) requiring only spark plugs on top of service for £500 due shortly. I reckon they've missed out on £1k out of the sale which is a lot considering he bought for a little under £20k and initially expected to get £23k. The annoying thing is that the interior is pretty unusual - most are black or grey (yeuch) - and I doubt that there'll be much chance to get another one. I'm not in desperate need of the car, it's the first one I've properly tested and not bought.

pajor

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a8-quattro-310bhp/5373413

Sobanek

I was always a fan of the A8 of that vintage. Looks good enough.

mickyellow

Have to say I always loved these cars. NCT till June next year. €3900

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-xk8-1997-70k-on-2005-engine/5499367

unkel

New engine, so no Nikasil problems? Beauty but the seller is a bit optimistic with his price.

Scortho

unkel wrote: »

New engine, so no Nikasil problems? Beauty but the seller is a bit optimistic with his price.

That car has been up for ages.
I was considering one before the alfa, being young is a pain!:(

TireeTerror

mickyellow wrote: »

Have to say I always loved these cars. NCT till June next year. €3900

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-xk8-1997-70k-on-2005-engine/5499367

I dont understand why you would take photos of your car sitting on a sandy beach.....I would NEVER take my car onto the beach if I valued it.

Jesus.

TireeTerror wrote: »

I dont understand why you would take photos of your car sitting on a sandy beach.....I would NEVER take my car onto the beach if I valued it.

Are you on the wind up?

delthedriver

Jesus. wrote: »

Are you on the wind up?

The sand and salt water should do wonders for the alloys and the bodywork!

rovoagho

One trip to the beach for photos, sure it'll start rusting instantly, and no amount of washing will get that dangerous salt-laced dihydrogen monoxide off.

GreeBo

rovoagho wrote: »

One trip to the beach for photos, sure it'll start rusting instantly, and no amount of washing will get that dangerous salt-laced dihydrogen monoxide off.

And what amount of washing do you know the owner has done between taking the photo and you buying the car?

There is no need to try and be all cool about it, salt-water is bad for cars, bikes, anything that will rust, if you deny this, then start another thread, perhaps in the conspiracy forum?

rovoagho

I'm the one jumping to conclusions? Ha!

EDIT: On second thoughts, are you being obtuse, or did you just miss the joke completely?

delthedriver

unkel wrote: »

New engine, so no Nikasil problems? Beauty but the seller is a bit optimistic with his price.

Nice car, possibly a future classic. Road tax €1800? Car is 1997, @ €3900 , owner is extremely optimistic. One for the enthusiast!:)

Marcusm

After last week's drama, I have put a deposit on a luxobarge but not one of the ones I've previously mentioned. Unfortunately it won't have 12 cyl, only 8 but 2 turbos to give an overall 407bhp. Similar price to the others but newer (2009) so a current model, maybe more of a sporty barge.

CianRyan

You're a tease.

Scortho

delthedriver wrote: »

Nice car, possibly a future classic. Road tax €1800? Car is 1997, @ €3900 , owner is extremely optimistic. One for the enthusiast!:)

Try find one for cheaper though. Its one of the nicest looking cars from the 90s.
Yearly road tax doesnt bother me. Itd only be taxed for 3 months of the year anyway.
Neighbour has his taxed as a limo!:rolleyes:

Another one for my If i had space rantings (I might start a thread). I can see myself buying one in the future at a lot more than what theyre going for now.:mad:

lomb

Marcusm wrote: »

After last week's drama, I have put a deposit on a luxobarge but not one of the ones I've previously mentioned. Unfortunately it won't have 12 cyl, only 8 but 2 turbos to give an overall 407bhp. Similar price to the others but newer (2009) so a current model, maybe more of a sporty barge.

750 or 650i?

pajor

Marcusm wrote: »

After last week's drama, I have put a deposit on a luxobarge but not one of the ones I've previously mentioned. Unfortunately it won't have 12 cyl, only 8 but 2 turbos to give an overall 407bhp. Similar price to the others but newer (2009) so a current model, maybe more of a sporty barge.

"Only" 8.

We're listening.

Voodoomelon

lomb wrote: »

750 or 650i?

Could be an X6 or X5 either, but i'm going with a 2009 F01 750li.