LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

Atlantic Dawn

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Are people out there still looking at luxobarges? Has anyone seen any trends, less on the ground etc?

Yes since the economy picked up and the price of fuel dropped there's very few bargains. Also a chance on certain models that the VRT export refund may have sent some to the UK.

Eric Cartman

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Are people out there still looking at luxobarges? Has anyone seen any trends, less on the ground etc?

even in terms of luxury cars.

Range rovers - especially TDV8 models and high spec models have pretty much disappeared from sale (no vogue SE's on donedeal, 1 on carzone, even real vogue's are hard to come by unless youll accept one with mega miles)

e66 745i's - I remember at one point there were 10-15 of these on donedeal in one go, now there are none, very hard to find, 750's and other high end stuff too.

e38's - very few left for sale, especially anything over a 728i

s500's - used to be 10+ for sale at any one time , 00-03 models for under 5k , now theres 3 intact ones left on donedeal.

mickdw

I would have been crying out for the vrt rebate to be introduced.
Now I can see that it is taking away all the nice old cars

Voodoomelon

Wow, that's a same, suppose it was only a matter of time.

In fairness we didn't have that great a selection as such, just lots of the same thing left over from the boom, CL500s, S500s, 745is coming out of our ears; very few with anything over base trim.

Just goes to show how few people actually drive these cars in this country, in a mere 12 months they've disappeared.

PrettyBoy

Is the hassle of finding a buyer in the UK, MOT'ing it and applying for a rebate at with an automatic €500 deduction really worth it? I was offered an 03 S320 for €3k last year. I was considering selling it in the UK but when I saw what had to be done it didn't seem worth the hassle plus there was no guarantee of a profit at the end of it all.

Has anyone here done it?

Voodoomelon

I suspect many went much further abroad than the UK; the same cars weren't much more expensive over there than they were here.

Stallingrad

My BMW is in Poland somewhere. :-(

PrettyBoy

What's the import process like for Poland, Russia, etc.? Does it have to pass an initial road worthiness test and have dials in MPH like the UK?

mickdw

PrettyBoy wrote: »

Is the hassle of finding a buyer in the UK, MOT'ing it and applying for a rebate at with an automatic €500 deduction really worth it? I was offered an 03 S320 for €3k last year. I was considering selling it in the UK but when I saw what had to be done it didn't seem worth the hassle plus there was no guarantee of a profit at the end of it all.

Has anyone here done it?

Not done it but certainly money to be made on expensive stuff, not in stuff of this price range imo.

Eric Cartman

mickdw wrote: »

Not done it but certainly money to be made on expensive stuff, not in stuff of this price range imo.

I worked it out at the time and you could take a 2006-2009 range rover vogue from here and land it in the uk, mot register and all and break even with uk prices , so if you took the vrt rebate as your profit you were walking away with 2.5-4k a car

Atlantic Dawn

If you had a contact on the other end to register and sell them there's lots of money to be made.

mickdw

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I worked it out at the time and you could take a 2006-2009 range rover vogue from here and land it in the uk, mot register and all and break even with uk prices , so if you took the vrt rebate as your profit you were walking away with 2.5-4k a car

So you would have a situation where a tax rebate is taxable

kevpants

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Are people out there still looking at luxobarges? Has anyone seen any trends, less on the ground etc?

There's one more on the ground. I'm moving country and I can't bring my 04 LS430 (mentioned back in October and December 2013 of this thread). I'm going to have to sell her

My bias of having one for sale now notwithstanding, if you're into cars you should own at least 1 luxobarge. It's a different experience to anything else.

It's killing me to get rid of it, mostly because I taxed the feckin yoke up until October 2015, about 2 weeks before the job opportunity raised it's head.

To top it off the country I'm heading for has an incredibly poor motoring pedigree, it's a Caribbean island with lots of salty breezes and all the cars need to be (expensively) shipped from America. So I'll end up in a rusty Chevrolet within the next few weeks after becoming used to having my buns toasted these cold mornings by heated leather seats.

Feck it.



Feck it.

draiochtanois

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kevpants

draiochtanois wrote: »

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I didn't want to say, I know you're not meant to use this as a platform to advertise.

There's only 90k kms on it so looking at the market it's worth €6k but I'd be willing to negotiate obviously. I haven't put it up on Carzone yet. You can PM me if you're interested.

Mods remove that if it's not kosher!

Bigus

kevpants wrote: »

There's one more on the ground. I'm moving country and I can't bring my 04 LS430 (mentioned back in October and December 2013 of this thread). I'm going to have to sell her

My bias of having one for sale now notwithstanding, if you're into cars you should own at least 1 luxobarge. It's a different experience to anything else.

It's killing me to get rid of it, mostly because I taxed the feckin yoke up until October 2015, about 2 weeks before the job opportunity raised it's head.

To top it off the country I'm heading for has an incredibly poor motoring pedigree, it's a Caribbean island with lots of salty breezes and all the cars need to be (expensively) shipped from America. So I'll end up in a rusty Chevrolet within the next few weeks after becoming used to having my buns toasted these cold mornings by heated leather seats.



Feck it.



Feck it.

Buy yourself a nice road bike and get fit and tanned , instead of fat and a tanned arsè, or maybe ship a motorbike from here ?

Odyssey 2005

Think of the sunshine on your back,and forget about the cold here. That'll fix the hurt. Good luck:)

kevpants

Bigus wrote: »

Buy yourself a nice road bike and get fit and tanned , instead of fat and a tanned arsè, or maybe ship a motorbike from here ?

I was thinking bike but I think I'd be divorced. It's a small place and I do run so I gues I'll just have to settle for the tanned Adonis option. Ho hum.

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

Think of the sunshine on your back,and forget about the cold here. That'll fix the hurt. Good luck:)

Thanks a million. The car is the only drawback. It's a great opportunity!

Markcheese

Could you stick it in storage somewhere ? If it's done right at least your car'd be there for you if/when you're back -

kevpants

Markcheese wrote: »

Could you stick it in storage somewhere ? If it's done right at least your car'd be there for you if/when you're back -

Considered it. But for the value of the car it's nearly not worth it, you could buy a whole new one for the price of properly storing it. If it doesn't shift it's definitely an option though.

Odyssey 2005

There's more to VALYE than monetary value. Nice barges are getting like hobby horses ****e here now. You'll prob never get one again unless Lexus come out with a 1.6 TDI version. Think about Marks idea,it's not entirely hairbrained.

mullingar

kevpants wrote: »

I didn't want to say, I know you're not meant to use this as a platform to advertise.

There's only 90k kms on it so looking at the market it's worth €6k but I'd be willing to negotiate obviously. I haven't put it up on Carzone yet. You can PM me if you're interested.

Mods remove that if it's not kosher!

Just to add salt to the wound, there is another 04 Ls430 just advertised today which was NCT'd yesterday and valid until September15, 4 months tax, similar mileage @57k miles for €3,900......

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2004-lexus-ls-430/8557715

ofcork

Would you question why the nct wasn't done last year when due?

unkel

kevpants wrote: »

I didn't want to say, I know you're not meant to use this as a platform to advertise.

Don't worry, it's fine to mention your own car. We've discussed that before. You can even link to your ad. As long as you are clear it is your own car for sale

Best of luck with the sale and the move!

ofcork wrote: »

Would you question why the nct wasn't done last year when due?

Nah. It was done yesterday. Which is better in my book than last September. Probably a realistic enough price, considering supply of luxobarges is now low and petrol is cheap. I doubt the seller would refuse €3.5k though - sorry kevpants if that is not what you wanted to hear!

Gumbo

kevpants wrote: »

I didn't want to say, I know you're not meant to use this as a platform to advertise.

There's only 90k kms on it so looking at the market it's worth €6k but I'd be willing to negotiate obviously. I haven't put it up on Carzone yet. You can PM me if you're interested.

Mods remove that if it's not kosher!

What's it like as a daily? I've been looking at the all week and seriously considering one as my next car. Was even looking at the GS 300.

Are they heavy on petrol?
I've had V8's before (4.4 X5) so not totally clueless to the real world figures.

W123-80's

Test Jan '15
Tax Sept '15 (I assume PSV?)
Asking €3,995

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-s-class-s320-3-2-2003/8603257?offset=9

Frynge

Very tidy looking.

mullingar

That Merc is on the full fat tax rate so roughly has €1200 of it left. So an equivalent without tax is only €2800.

Cheap barge

JJJJNR

W123-80's wrote: »

Test Jan '15
Tax Sept '15 (I assume PSV?)
Asking €3,995

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-s-class-s320-3-2-2003/8603257?offset=9

Just noticed the below in the above advert, does that mean they'll fit a washing machine engine to my car, seriously how could I explain that to the NCT tester.

*Gerard Lee Motors Ltd is a Bosch approved service center located in Dun Laoghaire, South County Dublin.

Black_Knight

JJJJNR wrote: »

W123-80's wrote: »

Test Jan '15
Tax Sept '15 (I assume PSV?)
Asking €3,995

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-s-class-s320-3-2-2003/8603257?offset=9

Just noticed the below in the above advert, does that mean they'll fit a washing machine engine to my car, seriously how could I explain that to the NCT tester.

*Gerard Lee Motors Ltd is a Bosch approved service center located in Dun Laoghaire, South County Dublin.

I really hate it when people create non-vintage cars into the vintage car category.

mullingar

But great for bargain hunters.....

unkel

JJJJNR wrote: »

*Gerard Lee Motors Ltd is a Bosch approved service center

The Bosch approved car service centers have very high standards in my experience. I wouldn't bring my car elsewhere when it comes to a difficult diagnostics issue.

Truckermal

I see the 05 GS300 was sold after being up for 2 weeks I wonder was it a genuine car as I looked at the ad every day.

unkel

Thoughts on this?

Linky

Nearly half a million kilometers!!!

punisher5112

unkel wrote: »

Thoughts on this?

Linky

Nearly half a million kilometers!!!

I would love 1 but wouldn't spend that much on something that wil be costing a lot when things start going on it.

Comfort bus is all I can say.

unkel

punisher5112 wrote: »

wouldn't spend that much on something that wil be costing a lot when things start going on it.

When or if? I've had several old big BMWs (much older than that one) and never had any big bills.

That said, they were all petrol. And nowhere near that kinda mileage

Sobanek

Sobanek wrote: »

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Luxobarge requirements:
Price: Max €5k (updated by moderator)
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unkel wrote: »

Thoughts on this?...........

Price: € 8,950

wrong thread imo

And I'd share the sentiment above, €9k is a huge wad of cash to be spending on a car that has 300k miles on it. Given your views on the BMW auto transmission fluid changing I would have thought you'd be wary of a 300k miler.

unkel

Forgot about the €5k limit, apologies. Probably a bad idea to pick a high miler diesel anyway

How about this?

'02 735i V8, NCT + tax + 1 owner (all genuine), asking €2,950. No mention of miles though but probably nowhere near half a million km

Augeo wrote: »

Given your views on the BMW auto transmission fluid changing

My views aren't so black and white. In fact, one of the reasons I bought my current car (with the 6 speed ZF box) was that the previous owner had just changed autobox filter + oil at about 150k km. These boxes seem to last longer and give less trouble than the previous gen anyway

Seweryn

Must be a very rare car in this country...

Nice one!

Voodoomelon

I'd love a spin in one of those.

W123-80's

Seweryn wrote: »

Must be a very rare car in this country...

Nice one!

That is a class car..

unkel

Seweryn wrote: »

Must be a very rare car in this country...

Nice one!

Love it! There were only ever a handful of them sold here. And I've never before seen one for sale for a reasonable price. This ad is 2 hours old now, I doubt the car will still be for sale this time tomorrow

Best of luck to both the seller and the buyer

Atlantic Dawn

Seweryn wrote: »

Must be a very rare car in this country...

Nice one!

If only it wasn't powered by the black fuel.

mullingar

I wonder why the Citroen badge is upside down

W123-80's

unkel wrote: »

Love it! There were only ever a handful of them sold here. And I've never before seen one for sale for a reasonable price. This ad is 2 hours old now, I doubt the car will still be for sale this time tomorrow

Best of luck to both the seller and the buyer

15 available on autotrader.co.uk. 4 on carandclassic. So rare all round. Comparing prices & mileage with the one above it is a very good buy..
Wish I was in the market..!

blahblah06

I'd be a bit suspect of the seller's other adds

Seweryn

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

If only it wasn't powered by the black fuel.

Well, it is a V6 and not a bad engine at all in fairness.

Here is an interesting review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLrrXtRJbJ0

And another one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0IdtH4S700

Jeayzis, I like this machine. It is in a class of its own, isn't it?

Old diesel

The issue I see with a C6 is finding someone able to maintain one of these in Ireland.

The C6 equivalent of what George Dalton is for VAG owners

Stunning car thought - and surely a future classic in the making if the cars survive long term

unkel

C6 sold...

Blue850

unkel wrote: »

Thoughts on this?

Linky

Nearly half a million kilometers!!!

In Galway...I wonder was that silver 07 730d that was running on its own engine oil at the lights at Briarhill junction last year, revving like a b@stard and it wouldn't knock off with the key, and wouldn't stall cos of the auto....