LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

unkel

They're around since '05, but possibly a year later in RHD

ofcork

Sometime in 06 launched here iirc.

wildefalcon

My ex-boss had one of the 006/07 S class, too. Dreadful thing, always in for repair. He gave up on it - left it for them to take way with the key on the tyre. They said " what if someone steals it?".

He said: "if they can start it, they can have it!".

mickdw

ofcork wrote: »

Sometime in 06 launched here iirc.

Yes there were 06 here.
I've heard of some issues but I know a couple of people with 08 versions with alot of miles and they have been flawless.

CharlieCroker

Mate of mine had a 2006 320cdi. Needed a €6000 engine rebuild at about 110k miles

166man

CharlieCroker wrote: »

Mate of mine had a 2006 320cdi. Needed a €6000 engine rebuild at about 110k miles

Still one of the nicest Diesel engines of the noughties though....

Eric Cartman

The real lesson with modern barges is, dont buy the first year of a model, probably even the second to be safe.

2002-2003 e65's are a disaster for example , but by 2004 or even the facelift 2005 theyre fine.

mickdw

Eric Cartman wrote: »

The real lesson with modern barges is, dont buy the first year of a model, probably even the second to be safe.

2002-2003 e65's are a disaster for example , but by 2004 or even the facelift 2005 theyre fine.

I think in general with all new models, it's best to wait till facelift to get a car with the silly stuff ironed out.

Big Nasty

mickdw wrote: »

I think in general with all new models, it's best to wait till facelift to get a car with the silly stuff ironed out.

Also in nearly every instance I can think of the facelift is a far better looking car.

Especially with the E65 / 66.

Duke O Smiley

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-745-li-long-wheel-base/8972432?offset=2


Well what's the reliability like on these?

Eric Cartman

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-745-li-long-wheel-base/8972432?offset=2


Well what's the reliability like on these?

double check everything electrical and keep 5k aside to replace modules. first year of a new model, as I said above, it can be a nightmare , it made it this far so it might be ok.

also valve stem seals, expensive to do and a possibility to fail badly

Old diesel

Eric Cartman wrote: »

double check everything electrical and keep 5k aside to replace modules. first year of a new model, as I said above, it can be a nightmare , it made it this far so it might be ok.

also valve stem seals, expensive to do and a possibility to fail badly

A regular poster on here - had the valve stem issue on his 7 series - he posted about it.

Threads around somewhere

Eric Cartman

Old diesel wrote: »

A regular poster on here - had the valve stem issue on his 7 series - he posted about it.

Threads around somewhere

that was voodoomelon , garage covered the cost iirc , but to do out of your own pocket would be very costly.

unkel

It cost under a grand though didn't it? If I bought a 13 year old car that cost €140k when new then I wouldn't mind a few €1k repair jobs over the years. And at €3k to buy it, you can take a risk. Face a €3k + repair bill in future? Just scrap it and buy another

I would love to know the reason for sale for that one is though. The cynic in me tells me there are things wrong with it and it won't pass an NCT as is.

Voodoomelon

Yup, €1300 for valve stem seals and guts of €1200 for the coolant pipe swap.

Both issues affect 545/550/645/650/740/745/750 models and just the coolant pipe affects the 760.

Labour prices above are exceptionally good with the garage I used, i'd expect prices to be 50% more from most other independents.

They're still ridiculous value, as Unkel says just buy one for peanuts, drop a couple of grand into one and you still have a bargain. I'm surprised they're still so cheap, surely they'll start to dry up very soon.

mickdw

That car is recorded as transferred to individual in February So either someone trying to flip it at profit or its a lemon.
It doesn't appear to have a test so I would fear it's a lemon.

unkel

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I'm surprised they're still so cheap

Curse of the big engined youngtimer

mickdw wrote: »

That car is recorded as transferred to individual in February

Out of interest, how do you check that?

Big Nasty

unkel wrote: »

Curse of the big engined youngtimer



Out of interest, how do you check that?

Motortax.ie

mickdw

unkel wrote: »

Out of interest, how do you check that?

Yep motortax.ie
vehicle transaction query.

also nct site will give test details and carsireland will throw up a few details too if you go to advertise your car section. They usually have number of owners and tax expiry date.

unkel

mickdw wrote: »

Yep motortax.ie
vehicle transaction query.

Never spotted that - thanks!

Big Nasty

unkel wrote: »

Never spotted that - thanks!

First day at school stuff tbh!

Old diesel

For perspective on the 7 series valve stem seals and coolant pipe - its - imo - very easy to rack up similar bills on a modern diesel.

Put 2 k into your 7 series - and your still in profit compared to running a 20 k modern diesel bought new.....

mickdw

Old diesel wrote: »

For perspective on the 7 series valve stem seals and coolant pipe - its - imo - very easy to rack up similar bills on a modern diesel.

Put 2 k into your 7 series - and your still in profit compared to running a 20 k modern diesel bought new.....

Very very true and it amazes me how the ordinary motorist is now routinely paying these type of bills that not too long ago were only seen on S Class mercedes etc.
I had a similar discussion with a rover 75 owner who complained that it wasn't a good car cause they had spent about 600 on headgasket job. Having bought the car cheap to start with, I pointed out that a new diesel would likely have cost multiples of that in repairs over the 6 years they owned the rover. Anyway they went for an 08 passat after the rover and within a year they had paid for a flywheel and rear brake caliper.

unkel

mickdw wrote: »

I had a similar discussion with a rover 75 owner who complained that it wasn't a good car cause they had spent about 600 on headgasket job. Having bought the car cheap to start with

9 years ago when the missus needed a bigger car, I was looking at buying an Octavia. Alright car, cheap and cheerful. Econobox. Budget was €7k and that just about would buy us a big miled not great condition 5 year old 1.4 / 1.6

Ended up buying a 5 year old FSH great condition low mileage Rover 75 1.8 for €6k. Far nicer car and a grand still in my pocket for a HG. But it never failed, in fact we spend nothing on the car except basic servicing for the 5 years we had it...

Old diesel

mickdw wrote: »

Very very true and it amazes me how the ordinary motorist is now routinely paying these type of bills that not too long ago were only seen on S Class mercedes etc.
I had a similar discussion with a rover 75 owner who complained that it wasn't a good car cause they had spent about 600 on headgasket job. Having bought the car cheap to start with, I pointed out that a new diesel would likely have cost multiples of that in repairs over the 6 years they owned the rover. Anyway they went for an 08 passat after the rover and within a year they had paid for a flywheel and rear brake caliper.

And they still had to shell out money to change cars from an undesirable to the trade Rover "its a Rover with that K series engine that needs HGs every week - don't want it" - to the Passat "desirable low tax 08 diesel - everyone wants one - can't be got"

Funny how 35 mpg rather then 50 is seen a tricky cost to deal with - but shelling out 11 grand to get to 50 mpg first day - is completely fine

CheezePleeze

unkel wrote: »

9 years ago when the missus needed a bigger car, I was looking at buying an Octavia. Alright car, cheap and cheerful. Econobox. Budget was €7k and that just about would buy us a big miled not great condition 5 year old 1.4 / 1.6

Ended up buying a 5 year old FSH great condition low mileage Rover 75 1.8 for €6k. Far nicer car and a grand still in my pocket for a HG. But it never failed, in fact we spend nothing on the car except basic servicing for the 5 years we had it...

I bought a lovely 75 Connoisseur for half the price of the equivalent BMW 5 series. Lovely - leather, cruise control, sat nav etc.

Water got into the boot and wrecked the radio and sat nav, the heater controls went, the alternator went, and the sunroof leaked water.

But in fairness, the engine never let me down...

unkel

Yep, had the water in the boot too. Turned out one of the plastic plug in (ventilation?) units (for want of a better word) in the side of the boot had leaked. I pulled the part out (it was a BMW branded part!) and just duck taped over the hole. Didn't leak again

Sorry for off topic, the Rover 75 is hardly a luxobarge although probably a more comfortable cruiser than many cars posted in here.

power pants

unkel wrote: »

Yep, had the water in the boot too. Turned out one of the plastic plug in (ventilation?) units (for want of a better word) in the side of the boot had leaked. I pulled the part out (it was a BMW branded part!) and just duck taped over the hole. Didn't leak again

Sorry for off topic, the Rover 75 is hardly a luxobarge although probably a more comfortable cruiser than many cars posted in here.

remember the argument over this last year. I agree I dont think its one either

CheezePleeze

unkel wrote: »

Sorry for off topic, the Rover 75 is hardly a luxobarge

Might not be a luxobarge, but with all that feckin water about, it was like being on a barge...

Do I win a prize...

sheesh

CheezePleeze wrote: »

Might not be a luxobarge, but with all that feckin water about, it was like being on a barge...

Do I win a prize...

yes, yes you do



Cheezeplease you are now the proud owner of a Mercedes S320

All for €1,809

Duke O Smiley

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-600-s-600-v12/9017268?offset=8


Good christ

unkel

Very very cheap alright but why hasn't it been tested for over 5 years?

I suppose get it very thoroughly tested and if it works out ok, buy it and keep it forever. What a cool car :cool:

Or just stick it on a boat to Poland - anyone know what this car (with presumably a few serious issues - suspension and the like) might fetch over there?

colm_mcm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-s-type-2003-bargain/9011777?offset=4

Duke O Smiley

colm_mcm wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-s-type-2003-bargain/9011777?offset=4

I might be wrong but those wheels only came on the pre-button handbrake S type

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-600-s-600-v12/9017268?offset=8


Good christ

Under 2k for that v12 b@stard. That's pretty incredible.

Dempsey

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly wrote: »

Under 2k for that v12 b@stard. That's pretty incredible.

It will be the cost of road tax, insurance & fuel that will kill you! :pac:

Voodoomelon

Might have a look at that S600 myself next week if its still there, doubt it will be. Money to be made there.

MadYaker

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Might have a look at that S600 myself next week if its still there, doubt it will be. Money to be made there.

You'd wonder why the dealer isn't making it himself so....

Voodoomelon

Probably got it for less than €500.

Sobanek

unkel wrote: »

Very very cheap alright but why hasn't it been tested for over 5 years?

I suppose get it very thoroughly tested and if it works out ok, buy it and keep it forever. What a cool car :cool:

Or just stick it on a boat to Poland - anyone know what this car (with presumably a few serious issues - suspension and the like) might fetch over there?

€3k in RHD at most.

redlead

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly wrote: »

Under 2k for that v12 b@stard. That's pretty incredible.

It's crazy to think that a Toyota Yaris from the same year would be worth more than that now. The road tax really destroys the valuation of these cars

aaakev

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly wrote: »

Under 2k for that v12 b@stard. That's pretty incredible.

Iv driven that car, its a serious machine! If I had space it would be mine

colm_mcm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-600-s-600-v12/9017268?offset=8


Good christ

Notice anything odd about that sign?

CianRyan

They couldn't afford the R.

mickdw

aaakev wrote: »

Iv driven that car, its a serious machine! If I had space it would be mine

So it's not a bucket of sh1t?
I would have had my doubts given the long lack of test.
I don't think it's paticularly cheap though.

jacksie66

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filbert the fox

jacksie66 wrote: »

http://www.trademe.co.nz/862387529

The same car here in New Zealand. That's the minimum price..

i'm led to believe that the antipodoeans know how to operate a tax/insurance collection system - they hook it up to the price of fuel.....soooooo sensible!:o

commited

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-600-s-600-v12/9017268?offset=8


Good christ

Holy ****, I'm tempted to take a risk on that. Perfect.

Marcusm

Did one of you but it? It's sold per their website.

aaakev

mickdw wrote: »

So it's not a bucket of sh1t?
I would have had my doubts given the long lack of test.
I don't think it's paticularly cheap though.

I drove it about 5 years ago and it wasn't then, the guy who had it always had something like that as his daily driver