**2013: History - Before/After **

shootie

Just thinking about what I actually wrote on the exam for the first time. For the dev Q on Anglo-Irish relations I wrote about the various aspects of dismantling the treaty and the external relations act, the economic war and WW2 neutrality and feud with Churchill. Did I miss anything?

Jolly Red Giant

shootie wrote: »

Just thinking about what I actually wrote on the exam for the first time. For the dev Q on Anglo-Irish relations I wrote about the various aspects of dismantling the treaty and the external relations act, the economic war and WW2 neutrality and feud with Churchill. Did I miss anything?

That's pretty much it.

SeanyboyQPR

What were the reasons for market segmentation in Q7 b? And the benefits to Ireland of membership of the EU in Q2 (C)

garycreaton

second man u sound so much like my history teacher :P asking for money, and as u said my grattitude is worth so much more :P and stalin aswell i cudnt be happier

olazbabes

HEY mr you are right> i realised that too AT THE END OF THE EXAM. because I was so nervous those case studies just didnt click to me. my bad. DO THEY MARK HISTORY HARD ANYBODY???????

0mega

olazbabes wrote: »

HEY mr you are right> i realised that too AT THE END OF THE EXAM. because I was so nervous those case studies just didnt click to me. my bad. DO THEY MARK HISTORY HARD ANYBODY???????

Essays are probably marked hard as everyone seems to do well in the document and RSR.

olazbabes

I was just wondering is Lc History marked hard. I thought that the case studies were hidden in questions not asked directly- eg brian faulner=sunningdale or facist regimes-nuremberg. I panicked and answered opposite questions. my fault!:P

Jolly Red Giant

0mega wrote: »

Essays are probably marked hard as everyone seems to do well in the document and RSR.

The marking scheme for history essays is pretty straight forward

each paragraph (or to be more accurate - each issue you address) is marked out of a maximum of 12 marks. Those marks are allocated on the following basis -

Excellent 11-12 marks
Outstanding piece of analysis, exposition or commentary. Clearly expressed, accurate and substantial information.

Very good 8-10 marks
Very good material, accurately and clearly expressed.

Good 6-7 marks
Worthwhile information, reasonably well expressed.

Fair 3-5 marks
Limited information/barely expressed

Poor 0-2 marks
Trivial/irrelevant/grave errors.

So - if you write five paragraphs and get 12 marks in each paragraph you get 60/60
If you write 10 paragraphs and get 6/12 in each paragraph you still get 60/60

The remaining 40 marks go for how well your have address the question in your answer

Excellent:
34-40 marks
Excellent in its treatment of the set question, particularly if it shows detailed learning, wide reading, analysis or extensive coverage.

Very good:
28-33 marks
Very good –but not excellent - in its treatment of the set question, ie: accurate and substantial.

Good:
22-27 marks
Good standard treatment of the set question, without being exceptional in the information or the commentary supplied.

Fair:
16-21 marks
Fair attempt at the set question, but has identifiable defects, eg: incomplete coverage, irrelevant data, factual inaccuracies.

Weak:
10-15 marks
Poor, in that it fails to answer the question as set, but has some merit.

Very weak:
0-9 marks
Very poor answer which, at best, offers only scraps of information.

So if you write a lot of different information - even if you have not written the answer in a particularly good fashion you could end up with 60/60 and 20+/40 making your essay 80+ marks.

As an aside - the marks for the document based question do not tend to be particularly high. In 2011 the average marks broke down as follows

Research Project 91.5%
Document Based Question 69.9%
Essays 56.5%

This averaged out at 66.18% or a C1 grade.

One major factor in the low marks in the essays came from people choosing the wrong essay and not being able to write about it.

Example - in 2011
48% of students answered this question

To what extent did the Eucharistic Congress and/or the language and education policies of Irish governments promote Irish cultural identity?

and they received an average of 48% for the essay

At the same time
31% of students answered this question

Who handled Anglo-Irish relations better, WT Cosgrave or Éamon de Valera? Argue your case, referring to both.

And they received an average of 61%

SeanyboyQPR

How many paragraphs do ye reckon ye had per essay? (exc. intro and conc)

SecondMan

SeanyboyQPR wrote: »

How many paragraphs do ye reckon ye had per essay? (exc. intro and conc)

4-5

SeanyboyQPR

Yeah I'm hoping for an A but thought I'd struggle with having 6 per essay to get a high CM.. As long as nobody's donelike 8 or 9 I'm happy haha

AR95

SeanyboyQPR wrote: »

Yeah I'm hoping for an A but thought I'd struggle with having 6 per essay to get a high CM.. As long as nobody's donelike 8 or 9 I'm happy haha

i always do 8 plus conclusion and intro to ensure i get full marks on the cm

AR95

SeanyboyQPR wrote: »

Yeah I'm hoping for an A but thought I'd struggle with having 6 per essay to get a high CM.. As long as nobody's donelike 8 or 9 I'm happy haha

i always do 8 plus conclusion and intro to ensure i get full marks on the cm

Dropping No Eaves

I had about eleven per essay.

SeanyboyQPR

Dropping No Eaves wrote: »

I had about eleven per essay.

Some will almost certainly be grouped together and marked as one..

Kingkumar

we were always told to do 12 paragraphs so if u get 5 per para u will still get 60 CM

SecondMan

We were never told to do 12 paragraphs. Anyways it makes no difference as the examiner splits the paragraphs up himself.

Dropping No Eaves

My paragraphs all dealt with one aspect at reasonable length, why would he clump them together?

dizzymenace

SecondMan wrote: »

We were never told to do 12 paragraphs. Anyways it makes no difference as the examiner splits the paragraphs up himself.

yes but we were thought how to tructure psrsgrsphs , our teacher was a corrector and when correcting our essays he generally took 1m off when he had to change the pararaphs , it will stand to you if the corrector doesnt have to split them up