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**HL Irish Paper I - Before / After **

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  • Registered Users Posts: 401 ✭✭Legion.


    Mhm, if you have a decent standard of Irish and don't mind learning a few phrases off its not hard to get at least a C.


  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭Acciaccatura


    Lads, it's Bliain na Gaeilge, don't be surprised if something comes up in the essay on it!

    I'm going to blare some Raidió na Gaeltacht in preparation for this listening, hope my family like trad music! :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭AndreaEgan


    Lads, it's Bliain na Gaeilge, don't be surprised if something comes up in the essay on it!/quote]

    I have an essay on the future of the Irish language, would that be sufficient for Bliain na Gaeilge? :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭Acciaccatura


    AndreaEgan wrote: »
    Lads, it's Bliain na Gaeilge, don't be surprised if something comes up in the essay on it!/quote]

    I have an essay on the future of the Irish language, would that be sufficient for Bliain na Gaeilge? :)

    You could definitely fit it in there, I'm sure :) It mightn't be specifically about Bliain na Gaeilge, but I'm convinced that Gaeilge will show its face as an aiste/debate title in some form. Same goes for it being the year of An Tóstál, eisimirce should turn up either as well or instead of Gaeilge. If either of them don't come up I will actually go nuts :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭RabbitHearted


    i seem to have way more essays done than every one else here, i've 10 titles done(roughly) in total. :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭SeanyboyQPR


    If imirce/inimirce comes up can we just adjust our gathering essays?


  • Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭AndreaEgan


    AndreaEgan wrote: »

    You could definitely fit it in there, I'm sure :) It mightn't be specifically about Bliain na Gaeilge, but I'm convinced that Gaeilge will show its face as an aiste/debate title in some form. Same goes for it being the year of An Tóstál, eisimirce should turn up either as well or instead of Gaeilge. If either of them don't come up I will actually go nuts :P

    I'll learn a bit on An Tostal aswel, and Bliain na Gaeilge for me will have to do as An Tostal and Todhchaí na Gaeilge :P I hope Eisimirce appears :) So will I! I'm banking on Eisimirce or Problems in Ireland today! :O


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 strawberryowl


    yournerd wrote: »
    Doubt it. DO THE DEBATE!

    I wouldn't suggest doing the debate unless you've gone over it excellently and know they lay-out well.
    I mean, I'm from the Gaeltacht, Irish is my first language and I have been debating competitively for 2 years. My Irish teacher is our trainer and she told us not to touch the debate on Paper 1!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,159 ✭✭✭yournerd


    I wouldn't suggest doing the debate unless you've gone over it excellently and know they lay-out well.
    I mean, I'm from the Gaeltacht, Irish is my first language and I have been debating competitively for 2 years. My Irish teacher is our trainer and she told us not to touch the debate on Paper 1!


    Why not?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 strawberryowl


    yournerd wrote: »
    Why not?

    Apparently it's very difficult to get the correct tone and format/layout right. She also said something about needing the right statistics and just generally needing to know the ins and outs of that type of debate. I didn't question it, I'm focusing on the gearrscéal anyway.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭RabbitHearted


    I wouldn't be as quick to dismiss the debate, we have a great irish teacher and we've been advised to do either the aiste or debate or the alt nuachta if it fits but I don't see the problem with debates? Our teacher is also in charge of the irish debating team in school and they're forever winning stuff so I'm gonna trust her judgement.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,159 ✭✭✭yournerd


    Yeah my teacher a top class one and she recommended it :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭Tommyrawr


    Would imirce be a social problem, just per say if an essay on social problems came up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭HPMS


    I'm sorry but...I don't understand why we should stay away from the debate? Once you have the intro and conclusion learned off the rest is practically the same as an aiste. You just need to add in the odd "you cannot agree with the opposition...blah blah blah"...

    Or am I wrong??

    Also, does anyone happen to have nice phrases for the debate? I have the intro and conclusion, it's just the other stuff I'm wondering about. Thanks :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭ChromosomeT


    for the scéal could anyone tell me if this story of mine is at the right standard to get a high mark? especially if Díoma etc comes up.

    Ní raibh leoithne gaoithe sa spear nuair a thug me sracfhéachaint amach an fhuinneog trí leath shúil. D’fheach mé ar mo chlog agus bhí sé a cuig a chlog ar mhaidin. Bhí an teach chomh ciúin le luch mar bhí gach duine ina gcoladh go sámh. Ní raibh mé abálta aon rud a dhéiceail ach mo mála mór líonta sa chúinne.Rug me greim fíochmhar ar an mála agus bhí me reidh. Bhí me ar bhuile le momháthair mar dúirt sí liom go raibh sí I ndeireadh na feide liom agus gur fadhb mór me sa chlann.Go tobann, léim me de gheit mar bhí mo dhearthair ó gag stanadh orm. Chuir sé cúpla céist orm faoin áit a riabh mé ag dul. Leath mo shúile le deora agus d’fhág mé slán leis. Ag dul amach an doras ar mo
    bharraicíní bhí me ag déanamh iarracht na deora a choimead istigh ach theip orm. Ach ní raibh mé ábalta fanacht sa teach sin a feadh nóimead eile.
    Ba shíoraíocht liom féín an turas ó stad an bhus go dtí an bád farantóireachta. Bhí an áit plódaithe le gach cineal duine agus tháinig uaigneas orm ach phioc mé suas mo mhisneach agus chuaigh mé ar bord. Bhí tuirseach an domhain or magus shuigh mé síos chun mo scíth a ligint. Níor thuisce go raibh mé i gcoladh domhain agus bhí mé ag baint taitneamh as an gcathaoir mór compórdach.Sar I bhfad shrioc mé Sasana ach cén áit? Ní riabh fhios agam bhí an oíche ag titim go tapa mar chaith mé an chuid is mó den am ag cuardach lóistín. Bhi me fluich go craiceann, préacht leis an bhfuacht agus bhí easpa airgead orm. Gheal m’aghaidh nuair a thug mé faoi deara fógra mór i bhfuinneog teach tábhairne. Chuigh me isteach lán le gliondar ach d’athraigh me mo phort nuair a chuala me an praghasar oíche amháin.Stop mé I leac dorais den chéad oíche agus bhí me I bponc ceart. Bhí me a crith leis a bhfuacht agus gan amhras ar bith bhí mé scanraithe I mo bheatha. Thosaigh me ag smaoineamh ar mo chlann sa bhaile agus iad ina gcoladh go sámh I leaba tirim. Bhí a lán torann agus deatach timpeall na háite agus níor
    mhothaigh me compordach ar chor ar bith.An mhaidin ina dhiaidh sin dhúisigh me le scread coscán. Bhi gach duine ag brostu ar obair agus bhí na
    paistí ag dul ar scoil chomh maith. Bhí boladh breán uaim faoin am seo agus chaith mé an lá ar fad ag baint trial as post a fháil ach ar an drochuair theip orm. Tar éis cúpla la ní raibh post ar bith agam agus ní raibh a lán airgead fágtha agam ach oiread. Chaith mé breis is dhá uair a chloig ag stánadh ar an trácht agus pian díochmhar I mo bholg leis an ocras. Tar éis tamaill thus mé faoi deara bean beag aosta ag druidim liom. Thosaigh sí ag caint liom
    faoin a saol agus tabhacht an chlann freisin. D’inis mé mo scéal di agus bhí a fhios agam gur duin tuiscineach cliste í. Thug sí comhairle maith do magus tar eis cúpla uair bhí me ar an mbád abhaile.Nuair a shroic me an teach bhí mo dhearthair ó gag súgradh sa ghairdín. Ba bheag nár this sé I laige
    nuair a chonaic sé mé. Rith se i mo threo agus thug sé póg mór dom. Bhí faoiseamh an domhain ar mo mháthair ach ag an am chéanna bhí sí ar buile liom. Thug sí íde na muc is na maidrí dom. Gan amhras ar bith chodail mé go sámh an oíche sin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭outnumbered


    for the scéal could anyone tell me if this story of mine is at the right standard to get a high mark? especially if Díoma etc comes up.

    Ní raibh leoithne gaoithe sa spear nuair a thug me sracfhéachaint amach an fhuinneog trí leath shúil. D’fheach mé ar mo chlog agus bhí sé a cuig a chlog ar mhaidin. Bhí an teach chomh ciúin le luch mar bhí gach duine ina gcoladh go sámh. Ní raibh mé abálta aon rud a dhéiceail ach mo mála mór líonta sa chúinne.Rug me greim fíochmhar ar an mála agus bhí me reidh. Bhí me ar bhuile le momháthair mar dúirt sí liom go raibh sí I ndeireadh na feide liom agus gur fadhb mór me sa chlann.Go tobann, léim me de gheit mar bhí mo dhearthair ó gag stanadh orm. Chuir sé cúpla céist orm faoin áit a riabh mé ag dul. Leath mo shúile le deora agus d’fhág mé slán leis. Ag dul amach an doras ar mo
    bharraicíní bhí me ag déanamh iarracht na deora a choimead istigh ach theip orm. Ach ní raibh mé ábalta fanacht sa teach sin a feadh nóimead eile.
    Ba shíoraíocht liom féín an turas ó stad an bhus go dtí an bád farantóireachta. Bhí an áit plódaithe le gach cineal duine agus tháinig uaigneas orm ach phioc mé suas mo mhisneach agus chuaigh mé ar bord. Bhí tuirseach an domhain or magus shuigh mé síos chun mo scíth a ligint. Níor thuisce go raibh mé i gcoladh domhain agus bhí mé ag baint taitneamh as an gcathaoir mór compórdach.Sar I bhfad shrioc mé Sasana ach cén áit? Ní riabh fhios agam bhí an oíche ag titim go tapa mar chaith mé an chuid is mó den am ag cuardach lóistín. Bhi me fluich go craiceann, préacht leis an bhfuacht agus bhí easpa airgead orm. Gheal m’aghaidh nuair a thug mé faoi deara fógra mór i bhfuinneog teach tábhairne. Chuigh me isteach lán le gliondar ach d’athraigh me mo phort nuair a chuala me an praghasar oíche amháin.Stop mé I leac dorais den chéad oíche agus bhí me I bponc ceart. Bhí me a crith leis a bhfuacht agus gan amhras ar bith bhí mé scanraithe I mo bheatha. Thosaigh me ag smaoineamh ar mo chlann sa bhaile agus iad ina gcoladh go sámh I leaba tirim. Bhí a lán torann agus deatach timpeall na háite agus níor
    mhothaigh me compordach ar chor ar bith.An mhaidin ina dhiaidh sin dhúisigh me le scread coscán. Bhi gach duine ag brostu ar obair agus bhí na
    paistí ag dul ar scoil chomh maith. Bhí boladh breán uaim faoin am seo agus chaith mé an lá ar fad ag baint trial as post a fháil ach ar an drochuair theip orm. Tar éis cúpla la ní raibh post ar bith agam agus ní raibh a lán airgead fágtha agam ach oiread. Chaith mé breis is dhá uair a chloig ag stánadh ar an trácht agus pian díochmhar I mo bholg leis an ocras. Tar éis tamaill thus mé faoi deara bean beag aosta ag druidim liom. Thosaigh sí ag caint liom
    faoin a saol agus tabhacht an chlann freisin. D’inis mé mo scéal di agus bhí a fhios agam gur duin tuiscineach cliste í. Thug sí comhairle maith do magus tar eis cúpla uair bhí me ar an mbád abhaile.Nuair a shroic me an teach bhí mo dhearthair ó gag súgradh sa ghairdín. Ba bheag nár this sé I laige
    nuair a chonaic sé mé. Rith se i mo threo agus thug sé póg mór dom. Bhí faoiseamh an domhain ar mo mháthair ach ag an am chéanna bhí sí ar buile liom. Thug sí íde na muc is na maidrí dom. Gan amhras ar bith chodail mé go sámh an oíche sin.

    That's it? :O Sorry I don't know cause we don't do the sceal but it seems very short tbh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭shawnanana


    I'd love for something to come up on the Irish language or a one where you can just throw in all the fadhbanna!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    Todhchai na Gaeilge please


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭kevin12345


    I know problems in the country/pressure on young people (bit about the media)/Education System/Future of Irish. If one of them doesn't come up I honestly don't know what I'd do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭Raeral


    for the scéal could anyone tell me if this story of mine is at the right standard to get a high mark? especially if Díoma etc comes up.

    Ní raibh leoithne gaoithe sa spear nuair a thug me sracfhéachaint amach an fhuinneog trí leath shúil. D’fheach mé ar mo chlog agus bhí sé a cuig a chlog ar mhaidin. Bhí an teach chomh ciúin le luch mar bhí gach duine ina gcoladh go sámh. Ní raibh mé abálta aon rud a dhéiceail ach mo mála mór líonta sa chúinne.Rug me greim fíochmhar ar an mála agus bhí me reidh. Bhí me ar bhuile le momháthair mar dúirt sí liom go raibh sí I ndeireadh na feide liom agus gur fadhb mór me sa chlann.Go tobann, léim me de gheit mar bhí mo dhearthair ó gag stanadh orm. Chuir sé cúpla céist orm faoin áit a riabh mé ag dul. Leath mo shúile le deora agus d’fhág mé slán leis. Ag dul amach an doras ar mo
    bharraicíní bhí me ag déanamh iarracht na deora a choimead istigh ach theip orm. Ach ní raibh mé ábalta fanacht sa teach sin a feadh nóimead eile.
    Ba shíoraíocht liom féín an turas ó stad an bhus go dtí an bád farantóireachta. Bhí an áit plódaithe le gach cineal duine agus tháinig uaigneas orm ach phioc mé suas mo mhisneach agus chuaigh mé ar bord. Bhí tuirseach an domhain or magus shuigh mé síos chun mo scíth a ligint. Níor thuisce go raibh mé i gcoladh domhain agus bhí mé ag baint taitneamh as an gcathaoir mór compórdach.Sar I bhfad shrioc mé Sasana ach cén áit? Ní riabh fhios agam bhí an oíche ag titim go tapa mar chaith mé an chuid is mó den am ag cuardach lóistín. Bhi me fluich go craiceann, préacht leis an bhfuacht agus bhí easpa airgead orm. Gheal m’aghaidh nuair a thug mé faoi deara fógra mór i bhfuinneog teach tábhairne. Chuigh me isteach lán le gliondar ach d’athraigh me mo phort nuair a chuala me an praghasar oíche amháin.Stop mé I leac dorais den chéad oíche agus bhí me I bponc ceart. Bhí me a crith leis a bhfuacht agus gan amhras ar bith bhí mé scanraithe I mo bheatha. Thosaigh me ag smaoineamh ar mo chlann sa bhaile agus iad ina gcoladh go sámh I leaba tirim. Bhí a lán torann agus deatach timpeall na háite agus níor
    mhothaigh me compordach ar chor ar bith.An mhaidin ina dhiaidh sin dhúisigh me le scread coscán. Bhi gach duine ag brostu ar obair agus bhí na
    paistí ag dul ar scoil chomh maith. Bhí boladh breán uaim faoin am seo agus chaith mé an lá ar fad ag baint trial as post a fháil ach ar an drochuair theip orm. Tar éis cúpla la ní raibh post ar bith agam agus ní raibh a lán airgead fágtha agam ach oiread. Chaith mé breis is dhá uair a chloig ag stánadh ar an trácht agus pian díochmhar I mo bholg leis an ocras. Tar éis tamaill thus mé faoi deara bean beag aosta ag druidim liom. Thosaigh sí ag caint liom
    faoin a saol agus tabhacht an chlann freisin. D’inis mé mo scéal di agus bhí a fhios agam gur duin tuiscineach cliste í. Thug sí comhairle maith do magus tar eis cúpla uair bhí me ar an mbád abhaile.Nuair a shroic me an teach bhí mo dhearthair ó gag súgradh sa ghairdín. Ba bheag nár this sé I laige
    nuair a chonaic sé mé. Rith se i mo threo agus thug sé póg mór dom. Bhí faoiseamh an domhain ar mo mháthair ach ag an am chéanna bhí sí ar buile liom. Thug sí íde na muc is na maidrí dom. Gan amhras ar bith chodail mé go sámh an oíche sin.
    That's it? :O Sorry I don't know cause we don't do the sceal but it seems very short tbh.

    Unfortunately, like Outnumbered we don't do the sceal so I can't really comment on to how good it is. However, I can assure you that it is not too short. They only look for 500-600 words for the ceapadoireacht and that's 685 so there's no shortage there :)
    Also because only 20 marks go for the actual content and 80 go for the Irish used, as long as you have a good bit of vocabulary and most of your grammar is correct, you should be on track for a high mark :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭outnumbered


    Raeral wrote: »
    Unfortunately, like Outnumbered we don't do the sceal so I can't really comment on to how good it is. However, I can assure you that it is not too short. They only look for 500-600 words for the ceapadoireacht and that's 685 so there's no shortage there :)
    Also because only 20 marks go for the actual content and 80 go for the Irish used, as long as you have a good bit of vocabulary and most of your grammar is correct, you should be on track for a high mark :)

    What? That is all they look for? wow, not so bad at all!!! :D:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭kevin12345


    What? That is all they look for? wow, not so bad at all!!! :D:D

    Yep. Realistically they are looking for between 2-2 1/2 pages of good Irish. I can always get over 600 words in 2 1/2 but I tend to aim for 3.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 ILoveDance


    i only have education system and cyberbullying done! am i screwed?? :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭FrankLamar


    Can someone please message me notes or something I'm beyond screwed :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭Sporty_Kate


    Does anybody have notes or essay on Daoine Oga by any chance? :) Thank you!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭kevin12345


    Can somebody please proof read this paragraph of the pressure the media put on young people please?

    Chomh maith leis sin, dar liomsa, cuireann na meain cumarsaide bru millteanach orainn. Feictear domsa go mbionn tionchar nach beag ag nuachtain ar dhaoine oga, ar chailini oga ach go hairthe. Tog, mar shampla, an cursai faisin. Is doigh liom nach bhfeidir a bheith ro-thanai sa la ata inniu ann.
    Feictear aisteoiri agus realtai ceoil agus maincini cailiula sna hirisi agus iad ar a mbealach (on their way?) chuig coisir eigin i Hollywood. Nil dabht ar bith i m'aigne go gcuireann na bpictiuiri de na daoine seo isteach ar cailini oga.

    Thanks. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭11Charlie11


    If you write an essay that doesnt match any of the headings given and it was perfect etc can you still get the 80/100?


  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭Acciaccatura


    kevin12345 wrote: »
    Can somebody please proof read this paragraph of the pressure the media put on young people please?

    Chomh maith leis sin, dar liomsa, cuireann na meain cumarsaide bru millteanach orainn. Feictear domsa go mbionn tionchar nach beag ag nuachtain ar dhaoine oga, ar chailini oga ach go hairthe. Tog, mar shampla, an cursai faisin. Is doigh liom nach bhfeidir a bheith ro-thanai sa la ata inniu ann.
    Feictear aisteoiri agus realtai ceoil agus maincini cailiula sna hirisi agus iad ar a mbealach (on their way?) chuig coisir eigin i Hollywood. Nil dabht ar bith i m'aigne go gcuireann na bpictiuiri de na daoine seo isteach ar cailini oga.

    Thanks. :)

    -Go háirithe
    -"Tog, mar shampla, an cursai faisin" - Tóg, mar shampla, cursaí faisin (you don't need the "an")
    -You're right with "ar a mbealach" :)

    Very minor things, for all I know they're typos, it's a very good paragraph :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭Raeral


    kevin12345 wrote: »
    Can somebody please proof read this paragraph of the pressure the media put on young people please?

    Chomh maith leis sin, dar liomsa, cuireann na meain cumarsaide bru millteanach orainn. Feictear domsa go mbionn tionchar nach beag ag nuachtain ar dhaoine oga, ar chailini oga ach go hairthe. Tog, mar shampla, an cursai faisin. Is doigh liom nach bhfeidir a bheith ro-thanai sa la ata inniu ann.
    Feictear aisteoiri agus realtai ceoil agus maincini cailiula sna hirisi agus iad ar a mbealach (on their way?) chuig coisir eigin i Hollywood. Nil dabht ar bith i m'aigne go gcuireann na bpictiuiri de na daoine seo isteach ar cailini oga.

    Thanks. :)

    Doesn't seem too bad to me, as long as you know where all the fadas go. It's probably just a typo but 'bhfeidir' should be spelt bfheidir, and maybe use ag dul instead of ar a mbealach but I'm not really sure about that one. Other than that I don't really see anything wrong with it :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭Raeral


    If you write an essay that doesnt match any of the headings given and it was perfect etc can you still get the 80/100?

    I highly doubt it for some reason :P


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