**HL Maths Paper 2 before/after**

Chikablam

LC 2013 SURVIVOR wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0610/455807-leaving-cert-mistake/

there going to mark the question based on your attempt. shower of bastards

Yeah, how dare they mark us on our ability to try a question, that's not what the leaving cert is about!

decisions

LC 2013 SURVIVOR wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0610/455807-leaving-cert-mistake/

there going to mark the question based on your attempt. shower of bastards

First that is the fairest solution and second, where are you getting that from its not in the link posted.

LC 2013 SURVIVOR

Chikablam wrote: »

Yeah, how dare they mark us on our ability to try a question, that's not what the leaving cert is about!

my point is that our attempts made absolutely no sense regardless of our answer! so most people just gave up and moved on and are now being punished for it

The Cheesepoo

Thats not a great solution. Many people may have noticed a problem and left it entirely or skipped the next parts. Could really damage some results.

Chikablam

LC 2013 SURVIVOR wrote: »

my point is that our attempts made absolutely no sense regardless of our answer! so most people just gave up and moved on and are now being punished for it

My attempt made perfect sense, even if the triangle couldn't exist. Followed a logical step-by-step sequence. Granted, I didn't notice the mistake, but still

decisions

The Cheesepoo wrote: »

Thats not a great solution. Many people may have noticed a problem and left it entirely or skipped the next parts. Could really damage some results.

Your not going to notice until you check your answer, and if you don't skip stuff because you didn't get a, you make up an answer and continue. If people did that then that's their own fault.

LC 2013 SURVIVOR

The Cheesepoo wrote: »

Thats not a great solution. Many people may have noticed a problem and left it entirely or skipped the next parts. Could really damage some results.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0610/455807-leaving-cert-mistake/

thats my point i struggld through every part of it and knew it made no sense and didnt have enough time for 9(c) and now i will suffer for it

randylonghorn

The Cheesepoo wrote: »

Thats not a great solution.

I don't know where this "solution" is being sourced from but I'm very dubious that any decision has been made or indeed will be until the marking conference.

LC 2013 SURVIVOR wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0610/455807-leaving-cert-mistake/

there going to mark the question based on your attempt. shower of bastards

"The SEC said that when papers are corrected the error will be taken into account to ensure that no candidates are disadvantaged."

... is not the same thing at all! And posting the same link twice won't make it so!

SecondMan

If the case is that you only get awarded if you attempt the question will I get full marks since I "done" part A "fully" and drew labelled triangles for part B as I hadn't a bulls notion what was wrong?

The Cheesepoo

randylonghorn wrote: »

I don't know where this "solution" is being sourced from but I'm very dubious that any decision has been made or indeed will be until the marking conference.

True. Nothing in the quote your man threw up to suggest anything either

LC 2013 SURVIVOR

randylonghorn wrote: »

I don't know where this "solution" is being sourced from but I'm very dubious that any decision has been made or indeed will be until the marking conference.

"The SEC said that when papers are corrected the error will be taken into account to ensure that no candidates are disadvantaged."

... is not the same thing at all! And posting the same link twice won't make it so!

didnt mean to link it twice sorry

Prodigious

They should give us the backup Paper 2 on saturday.


























:pac:

randylonghorn

Prodigious wrote: »

They should give us the backup Paper 2 on saturday.

Brave, for a man whose face is now known!!! :cool:

Copper_pipe

Prodigious is on rte news now!

Leaving Cert Student

Randy can I speak to him?

Undeadfred

Prodigious wrote: »

They should give us the backup Paper 2 on saturday.

Oh God no that would be awful. They had their chance and they blew it. I hope someone gets fired for it

randylonghorn

Leaving Cert Student wrote: »

Randy can I speak to him?

If you're not just "prod"ding for a reaction!

The two of you have managed one civil, even light-hearted, exchange tonight, and got away with it on those grounds!

Raeral

Just after seeing the news there. You didn't happen to do maths Olympiad lectures in maynooth last year Prodigious?

Leaving Cert Student

I did the olympiad as it happens didnt make the team though

TheChosenOne

LC 2013 SURVIVOR wrote: »

they included the important bit. you pointed out that the time used in solving the insolvable question resulted in not being able to answer the following question. that means that the SEC will have to give very lenient marking to Q9! Well done man. you helped us all out

But not everyone does the paper from question one to question 9, in order.

randylonghorn

TheChosenOne wrote: »

But not everyone does the paper from question one to question 9, in order.

Look, not being smart, but would everyone stop trying to double-guess the examiners?

The Asst. Chief will no doubt put forward a proposal at the marking conference, based on precedent, and it will be discussed in depth by all the examiners ... these are all or at least almost all practising teachers who are as anxious for a good and fair solution as you are.

TheChosenOne

Undeadfred wrote: »

Doubt it would make front page. The majority of the country dont care about the LC

There was a 3.5 minute report on RTE.

Prodigious

Raeral wrote: »

Just after seeing the news there. You didn't happen to do maths Olympiad lectures in maynooth last year Prodigious?

I actually did Did I talk to you?

Prodigious

randylonghorn wrote: »

If you're not just "prod"ding for a reaction!

The two of you have managed one civil, even light-hearted, exchange tonight, and got away with it on those grounds!

Punderful stuff Randy.

peekachoo

Can we just take a moment to stop whinging and realise that said mistake may be the one thing that means people like me pass the exam and do not have to repeat next year...(hopefully)

TheChosenOne

randylonghorn wrote: »

Look, not being smart, but would everyone stop trying to double-guess the examiners?

The Asst. Chief will no doubt put forward a proposal at the marking conference, based on precedent, and it will be discussed in depth by all the examiners ... these are all or at least almost all practising teachers who are as anxious for a good and fair solution as you are.

I'm just saying I don't think they'd be "nicer" on other questions. How would you be "nicer" anyway?

I know, I don't like wasting time on this issue as well, it's just we're all annoyed, obviously!

matt007

Anyone else picked up on question 5.
The question asks for the 2 possible answers.
THERE IS ONLY ONE! as far as I can tell.
Can anyone else confirm this or let me know what I am doing wrong.

Really WTF??? Did the examiners even try and do this exam themselves before publishing.

Raeral

Prodigious wrote: »

I actually did Did I talk to you?

Not sure if we talked but I just remember this really loud lad who did a lot of mouthing. Guess it was you so. What are the chances :pac:

Prodigious

Raeral wrote: »

Not sure if we talked but I just remember this really loud lad who did a lot of mouthing. Guess it was you so. What are the chances :pac:

Bit harsh, but I can see where you're coming from :P There were only like 5 people who talked at all!
Good times :')

Did you make it past the first test? I remember half the class disappearing after that.

Raeral

matt007 wrote: »

Anyone else picked up on question 5.
The question asks for the 2 possible answers.
THERE IS ONLY ONE! as far as I can tell.
Can anyone else confirm this or let me know what I am doing wrong.

Really WTF??? Did the examiners even try and do this exam themselves before publishing.

Q5 does, in fact, have two answers. It's called the ambiguous case as one possible angle is acute while the other possible angle is obtuse.