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**HL Maths Paper 2 before/after**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    Do tell!

    You enter all your data as normal and press the AC button

    The Line has the form y=bx +a

    Then press SHIFT and 1

    Then 7(reg) and get your a and b values

    Sub any value for X into the y=bx+a to get your y coordinate.

    Do this twice and join the points


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭Eurovisionmad


    You enter all your data as normal and press the AC button

    The Line has the form y=bx +a

    Then press SHIFT and 1

    Then 7(reg) and get your a and b values

    Sub any value for X into the y=bx+a to get your y coordinate.

    Do this twice and join the points


    mind-blown.jpg?w=412

    That has actually changed my life! (I've a very sad life these days! :( )

    Though seemingly my b value is a and vice versa for the thing to make any sense!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,248 ✭✭✭Slow Show


    Just make sure to draw it through x bar, y bar. Apparently you lose marks if you don't.

    What d'you mean, like drawing it through the origin?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭Prodigious


    Think I have a different calculator.. No 7 (reg) option when I press shift and 1


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,159 ✭✭✭yournerd


    I was in the english and maths threads and just left cause it was too intimating and worrying :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭Prodigious


    Didnt think it had to go through the origin?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 leaving certbrah


    Anyone know how to do sec sample 2013 paper 2 Q 5 b ? Pg 156 of exam papers.. Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭outnumbered


    Okay so I have this done:
    Prob/stats
    3 theorems
    3-D Trig
    geometry
    Line
    Circle

    What else needs doing? Especially from trig?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭kevin12345


    Okay so I have this done:
    Prob/stats
    3 theorems
    3-D Trig
    geometry
    Line
    Circle

    What else needs doing? Especially from trig?

    Enlargements? I can't think of anything else! Here's hoping for a nice trig question/75 marker statistics q!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭Eurovisionmad


    Prodigious wrote: »
    Didnt think it had to go through the origin?

    No it doesn't. Plenty of graphs won't, when the above poster was referring to x bar and y bar, he mean the mean of the x's and the mean of the y's, your line should ideally go through that coordinate. But at the end of the day the line of best fit for everyone is going to be different and there'll be a tolerance in the accepted answer so don't sweat it!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭outnumbered


    kevin12345 wrote: »
    Enlargements? I can't think of anything else! Here's hoping for a nice trig question/75 marker statistics q!

    Yeah but do i need all them trig identities stuff too? yes?
    Yeah judging by friday, it will be a nice enough paper! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    Prodigious wrote: »
    Think I have a different calculator.. No 7 (reg) option when I press shift and 1

    what calculator have you?

    Do not leave any evidence of using the calculator method on the paper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭Prodigious


    Sharp EL 531


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    Prodigious wrote: »
    Sharp EL 531

    Ah I only have a Casio sorry


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭Prodigious


    No bother at all, sure I'll practice a few, if I could even get them by eye it'd do the job!


  • Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭shawnanana


    Prodigious wrote: »
    Sharp EL 531

    I have that one too! What is it you're looking for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭bluejay14


    It's too much to hope for some kind of enlargement question isn't it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    This is taken from the Sample Paper D in the educate papers
    Q7

    http://imgur.com/Ah6meOt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭Prodigious


    shawnanana wrote: »
    I have that one too! What is it you're looking for?

    Finding the line of best fit :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,248 ✭✭✭Slow Show


    But guys, I mean, if they're asking you to draw the line by eye and get the equation from your line, would it not be a bit dodgy to have perfect co-ordinates even if your line isn't perfect? Because let's face it, most people won't get a perfect line. I think I'll just read mine from my own graph tbh. :/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭outnumbered


    Slow Show wrote: »
    But guys, I mean, if they're asking you to draw the line by eye and get the equation from your line, would it not be a bit dodgy to have perfect co-ordinates even if your line isn't perfect? Because let's face it, most people won't get a perfect line. I think I'll just read mine from my own graph tbh. :/

    I'm just doing it from my own graph too. you never know what the marks will be looking for tbh!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,159 ✭✭✭yournerd


    i'm terrified for this paper :(
    What do I need to look over?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 barrhe


    Prodigious wrote: »
    Finding the line of best fit :)


    Best way to do it is get x bar, y bar (average of x' average of y) and then draw a line through that with roughly the same amount of co-ordinates on each side of the line


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭ScummyMan


    yournerd wrote: »
    i'm terrified for this paper :(
    What do I need to look over?

    Make sure you know statistics, easy marks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭0mega


    yournerd wrote: »
    i'm terrified for this paper :(
    What do I need to look over?

    Bit late now, I'd say get an early night so you're on the ball tomorrow.

    If you insist on it though, theorems are one thing you might struggle to have a crack at on the spot if you've not learnt them. Bernoulli's trials, hypothesis testing/correlation, trig graphs and tangents to a circle are probs likely enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭0mega


    Anyone got a list of the definitions we need to know before I head off to bed myself?


  • Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭shawnanana


    Prodigious wrote: »
    Finding the line of best fit :)

    Oh sorry I don't even know how to do that myself :P thought it was the correlation coefficient or standard deviation or something!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭0mega


    Gonna go, good luck tomorrow everyone!

    I feel quite unprepared for this after working so hard on P1. Hopefully it's as nice.. please god let it be nice..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭bluejay14


    Good luck tomorrow lads :)

    We're all going to smash it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,159 ✭✭✭yournerd


    Could someone please just write what do we need to know for paper 2? syllabus is way toooooooo long!


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