What was Irelands lowest moment?

Jimoslimos

Leftist wrote: »

Worse single for the current state, was omagh.

You do understand what "state" means?

Leftist

Jimoslimos wrote: »

You do understand what "state" means?

Have an idea yeah. Omagh was an atrocity that affected the ROI too. Infact some of our citizens were responsible for it. Did you even know that?

enda1 wrote: »

Pot, kettle, black?

explain to me what you think 'Pot, kettle, black' means?

because you highlighted my point that people banging on about the 1600s in comparison to Omagh. In 1998.

kasper

the black and tans
dana going for president
bertie ahern having a laught in the mahon tribunal
property tax

KingOfFairview

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

The possibilty was looked at as a diversionary tactic and there was link ups with the IRA, but Jerry quickly found out the 'Boys' could barely tie their own shoelaces.

Yes, but only if a successful sealion was already underway. It would never have been attempted unless the Brits were already on the ropes

Captain Farrell

Electing terrorists like Gerry Adams to represent the people of Ireland. Shameful and disgusting, the rest of the civilized world looks on in amazement at a nation that glorifies child-killing scumbags.

ColeTrain

Captain Farrell wrote: »

Electing terrorists like Gerry Adams to represent the people of Ireland. Shameful and disgusting, the rest of the civilized world looks on in amazement at a nation that glorifies child-killing scumbags.

That's a very provocative first post :rolleyes:

Wattle

When that crazy priest tackled that Brazilian marathon runner in the olympics. He was every bad Irish stereotype rolled into one and completely bats*it crazy.

Captain Farrell

ColeTrain wrote: »

That's a very provocative first post :rolleyes:

Oh I'm sorry, should I have said something funny/stupid like "Jedward"?

Is that the etiquette here? Do you have to make 1000 pointless posts before you're entitled to an opinion?

ArnoldJRimmer

Can't believe no one has mentioned this yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C46AcWDZtho

bumper234

Captain Farrell wrote: »

Electing terrorists like Gerry Adams to represent the people of Ireland. Shameful and disgusting, the rest of the civilized world looks on in amazement at a nation that glorifies child-killing scumbags.

Yet George W Bush is treated like a hero By millions of Americans and Obama get the Nobel peace prize for drone bombing innocents. Yeah Gerry Adams is way worse:rolleyes:

ColeTrain

Captain Farrell wrote: »

Oh I'm sorry, should I have said something funny/stupid like "Jedward"?

Is that the etiquette here? Do you have to make 1000 pointless posts before you're entitled to an opinion?

I just thought it was a bit of a coincidence that your first post on this forum has the potential to take this thread off topic in a big way.

Captain Farrell

ColeTrain wrote: »

I just thought it was a bit of a coincidence that your first post on this forum has the potential to take this thread off topic in a big way.

Not my intention, just my input.

Duckworth_Luas

kuntboy wrote: »

Douchenozzle-extraordinaire Bryant Gumbel humiliating Irish people on Grafton St for NBC US Television.

Worse that Cromwell :mad:

Who the fcuk is Bryant Gumbel?

Leftist

ColeTrain wrote: »

I just thought it was a bit of a coincidence that your first post on this forum has the potential to take this thread off topic in a big way.

nah. his was a direct answer to the question.

seems like only contributions that absolve us of responsibility are welcomed in your self-moderated thread.
Classic victim paddy mentality.

Augmerson

KingOfFairview wrote: »

Germany couldn't have invaded us

If they could have invaded France, Holland, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Greece, Poland, Czechoslovakia, the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia they could have easily invaded Ireland. There just needed to be the will to do it.

But they were too busy looking for the Holy Grail.

problemchimp

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Jaysus some people really can't see beyond what was in the papers recently.

Ireland is in great shape at the moment relative to the totality of its history. Maybe 2001 was our nadir to date? But all things considered, this is a golden age for Ireland relatively speaking.

Famine, Cromwell, Penal Laws, Plantations, The War of Independence, early decades of the Free State and Catholic Church transgressions of the time - so much shameful history to choose from that involved people being killed or marginalised because of their religion or personal life choices. Williams and the Sunday World trying to sell their latest book off the back of an imaginary 'Gangland Crime Crisis' (Ireland is one of the safest countries in the world) pales in comparison and warrants no mention in this thread.

Spot on, just hysterical nonsense to flog a paperback.
Interesting article in the Guardian today which places Ireland joint 6th in the world in the global peace index. I'd say Williams hates that!


The famine or Plantations for me.

Augmerson

Captain Farrell wrote: »

Electing terrorists like Gerry Adams to represent the people of Ireland. Shameful and disgusting, the rest of the civilized world looks on in amazement at a nation that glorifies child-killing scumbags.

Sorry, Gerry Adams is a child murderer?

ColeTrain

Leftist wrote: »

nah. his was a direct answer to the question.

seems like only contributions that absolve us of responsibility are welcomed in your self-moderated thread.
Classic victim paddy mentality.

Stop the ranting like a good little boy. Your last sentence just about sums you up.

LordSutch

ColeTrain wrote: »

Cromwell murdered and pillaged his way through this country and you seem outraged that people occasionally bring this up? How dare we discuss Ireland's history.

I seem to remember a documentary about Cromwell on the TV last year (RTE)? and I also remember many Cromwell hating posters on boards.ie eating humble pie when it turned out that Cromwells main attractions in Ireland were not the Irish persay, but the English Royalist army (who came here for the battle), that's not to deny that cromwell killed Irish people, but me thinks the circumstances were somewhat complicated at the time, with Ireland being the battle ground.

The 1845-1852 fammine was obviously a low point for the whole island.
The ROI staying out of WWII was also a low point IMO.

Leftist

ColeTrain wrote: »

Stop the ranting like a good little boy. Your last sentence just about sums you up.

Awful reponse.

Tell me, how was his post an attempt to take the thread off topic?

can't answer than can you? just rename the thread to something about stuff that happend to us, but was not our fault.. but catchier.

Then we can all sit about eating potatos and trading stories about the brits.

Da Shins Kelly

Captain Farrell wrote: »

Electing terrorists like Gerry Adams to represent the people of Ireland. Shameful and disgusting, the rest of the civilized world looks on in amazement at a nation that glorifies child-killing scumbags.

The rest of the "civilized world" have elected far worse people in their time, so I wouldn't be too worried about what they think.

ColeTrain

Leftist wrote: »

Awful reponse.

Tell me, how was his post an attempt to take the thread off topic?

can't answer than can you? just rename the thread to something about stuff that happend to us, but was not our fault.. but catchier.

Then we can all sit about eating potatos and trading stories about the brits.

I can answer that actually.

His post was to call Gerry Adams a child murderer.
If you read this forum from time to time you'd know that Republican threads pop up and tend to go round and round with the same arguments. I think you'd have to be naive to at least not question if the poster was looking for a reaction given it was his "first post". Of course he could be genuine but I was entitled to state that he might not be. No big deal.

BTW if you read the thread you'd see plenty of things that were caused by the Irish government and not at the hands 'of the brits'. A bit of perspective wouldn't go amiss.

maryishere

Captain Farrell wrote: »

Electing terrorists like Gerry Adams to represent the people of Ireland. Shameful and disgusting, the rest of the civilized world looks on in amazement at a nation that glorifies child-killing scumbags.

he was only elected by some people in some areas ( west Belfast, Louth ) .And in fairness he has different opinions now to the 70's and 80's when ( most people believe ) he was an IRA leader in Belfast and responsible for bloody Friday bombings, the abduction of Jean McColville etc.

Irelands lowest moment to me was going from boom to bust / IMF , not to mention Dustin on the eurovision

FTA69

LordSutch wrote: »

I seem to remember a documentary about Cromwell on the TV last year (RTE)? and I also remember many Cromwell hating posters on boards.ie eating humble pie when it turned out that Cromwells main attractions in Ireland were not the Irish persay, but the English Royalist army (who came here for the battle), that's not to deny that cromwell killed Irish people, but me thinks the circumstances were somewhat complicated at the time,

So complicated that he identified the Catholic Irish as a permanent threat to English interests and set about instituting the Penal Laws that plunged the vast majority of the country into penury for centuries. He then decided to engage in systematic slavery and deportation which resulted in a large percentage of the population dying.

I know it might pain you to admit that the English approach to colonising Ireland wasn't entirely benevolent, but there's no need to window dress your sycophantic rubbish with a load of historical inaccuracy.

WilyCoyote

LordSutch wrote: »

I seem to remember a documentary about Cromwell on the TV last year (RTE)? and I also remember many Cromwell hating posters on boards.ie eating humble pie when it turned out that Cromwells main attractions in Ireland were not the Irish persay, but the English Royalist army (who came here for the battle), that's not to deny that cromwell killed Irish people, but me thinks the circumstances were somewhat complicated at the time, with Ireland being the battle ground.

The 1845-1852 fammine was obviously a low point for the whole island.
The ROI staying out of WWII was also a low point IMO.

Why do you derail debates to introduce your Brit-loving perspective? Did you have an unhappy childhood or are you just being a prick?

razorblunt

Miley & Fidelma in the barn.

Jesus, Mary & Holy Saint Joseph and poor Biddy in the kitchen.

KingOfFairview

Augmerson wrote: »

If they could have invaded France, Holland, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Greece, Poland, Czechoslovakia, the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia they could have easily invaded Ireland. There just needed to be the will to do it.

But they were too busy looking for the Holy Grail.

No, they couldn't have. Unlike any of those countries, Ireland is an island with Britain between it and continental Europe. If they couldn't get over the channel, they couldn't have got to us.

Grand Moff Tarkin

Bosco with the hookers and coke in Miami. Or was that Ben Dunne???

Fratton Fred

KingOfFairview wrote: »

No, they couldn't have. Unlike any of those countries, Ireland is an island with Britain between it and continental Europe. If they couldn't get over the channel, they couldn't have got to us.

They managed it in Crete.

AudreyHepburn

The Clerical Child Abuse scandal/Magdalene Laundries;

I'd sooner see the economy go to pot than see any more children/young women being hurt like this again.


The Troubles;

Senseless, mindless violence perpetrated by the lowest dregs of society imo. And for no real reason.

weemcd

120+ replies and no mention of bloody sunday?

KingOfFairview

Fratton Fred wrote: »

They managed it in Crete.

Yeah, because the entire RAF and Royal Navy wasn't there to stop them over friendly territory and with radar. Without wanting to sound too pompous here, I know what im talking about. No one with any real knowledge of the situation will tell you Ireland could have been invaded while the UK was still in the fight. It literally wouldn't have been possible.

Captain Havoc

ColeTrain wrote: »

Personally I would have went for something like this

Why is the reg blurred out? It's not like anyone else on the planet has a range rover that looks so horrible.

major bill

Not the lowest by any stretch but the Americanisation of the Dublin/Irish Accent is quite worrying

Shane-KornSpace

Today KPMG stole my shoes.
No seriously.
They seized control of my work place today and will not allow me to retrieve my €55 pair of shoes back from inside.

€55 is a lot of money to me :-(

that's low

Femme_Fatale

The self loathing/inferiority complex is laughable. I wonder do the people of other nations analyse themselves to bits like it's done here? I'm guessing not.

Seaneh wrote: »

It's ****ing everywhere.

It's not half as bad here as it is in most European countries. Never mind the rest of the world.

Yeh it's funny how some people like to make out that Ireland is like Bolivia or somewhere - sorry folks, we ain't anywhere near that bad-ass! :pac:

frank reynolds wrote: »

crap kip that has always been full of everything that nobody wants.

What does that even mean?

tayto lover

Being taxed for making the sacrifices to obtain your own family home.

LordSutch

FTA69 wrote: »

So complicated that he identified the Catholic Irish as a permanent threat to English interests and set about instituting the Penal Laws that plunged the vast majority of the country into penury for centuries. He then decided to engage in systematic slavery and deportation which resulted in a large percentage of the population dying.

I know it might pain you to admit that the English approach to colonising Ireland wasn't entirely benevolent, but there's no need to window dress your sycophantic rubbish with a load of historical inaccuracy.

I honestly thought the docu (Fergal Keane)? painted cromwell in a different light and that his real foe in Ireland were the English Royalists? but I will admit that this may be total inaccurate rubbish and that I misunderstood, in which case 'Hands up' I was totally wrong in post #120.

WilyCoyote wrote: »

Why do you derail debates to introduce your Brit-loving perspective? Did you have an unhappy childhood or are you just being a prick?

Apologies to you too WilyCoyote re post#120 http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=85021160&postcount=120 presuming that I was wrong.

As I say, that was the impression I 'mistakenly' got . . . . . . .

Curlysue76

bumper234 wrote: »

Yet George W Bush is treated like a hero By millions of Americans and Obama get the Nobel peace prize for drone bombing innocents. Yeah Gerry Adams is way worse:rolleyes:

He is no better, that's for sure. Just because the yanks are doing it, that is no reason for us to follow. A murdering terrorist is a murdering terrorist wherever they are.

Nodin

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

The Troubles;

Senseless, mindless violence perpetrated by the lowest dregs of society imo. And for no real reason.

...sure they just did it for the laugh.

ToddyDoody

The child molesting Id say

Curlysue76

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

The rest of the "civilized world" have elected far worse people in their time, so I wouldn't be too worried about what they think.

I think we should be more worried that people in Ireland would vote for Adams than what other countries think of them for doing it.

Augmerson

KingOfFairview wrote: »

Yeah, because the entire RAF and Royal Navy wasn't there to stop them over friendly territory and with radar. Without wanting to sound too pompous here, I know what im talking about. No one with any real knowledge of the situation will tell you Ireland could have been invaded while the UK was still in the fight. It literally wouldn't have been possible.

No worries mate you don't sound pompous at all, threads off topic anyway

efb

The day St Patrick arrived

bumper234

Curlysue76 wrote: »

He is no better, that's for sure. Just because the yanks are doing it, that is no reason for us to follow. A murdering terrorist is a murdering terrorist wherever they are.

I didn't say it was right....Also Adams was voted in wayyyyy before either Bush or Obama.

LordSutch

Nodin wrote: »

...sure they just did it for the laugh.

I hear your sarcasm, even so, the Troubles were no laughing matter, and the IRA notched up more than their fair shair of the killings.

THall04

THall04 wrote: »

The Stardust fire and how the families of the victims were treated in the aftermath.

Thinking about it it was the signs of things to come. Irish law made a huge statement that the state will always let greedy capitalists off scott free where they have committed blatant negligence on those they are meant to serve.

Nodin

LordSutch wrote: »

I hear your sarcasm, even so, the Troubles were no laughing matter, and the IRA notched up more than their fair shair of the killings.

....they weren't and they did, but "Senseless, mindless violence perpetrated by the lowest dregs of society imo. And for no real reason." is a woejous misrepresentation.

Femme_Fatale

LordSutch wrote: »

the Troubles were no laughing matter, and the IRA notched up more than their fair shair of the killings.

Wow, really? That's such new information.

Curlysue76

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Wow, really? That's such new information.

Not new, but we should never forget all the bloodshed.