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UEFA open hearings into Steaua and Besiktas

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  • #2
    Oat23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,379 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Steaua are being investigated for match fixing too. Gigi Becali (their owner) tried to bribe Cluj players a few years ago.

    I guess it's only coming up now because he was convicted and sentenced to an extra 3 years in jail for it last week. He's already serving time for corruption or something.


  • #3
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Oat23 wrote: »
    Steaua are being investigated for match fixing too. Gigi Becali (their owner) tried to bribe Cluj players a few years ago.

    I guess it's only coming up now because he was convicted and sentenced to an extra 3 years in jail for it last week. He's already serving time for corruption or something.

    The way I understood it is that it wasn't bribing, but giving the other team a bonus if they played as good as possible (they had nothing left to play for so fears were that they would lie down).


  • #4
    Oat23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,379 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    The way I understood it is that it wasn't bribing, but giving the other team a bonus if they played as good as possible (they had nothing left to play for so fears were that they would lie down).

    Doesn't matter if it was to get them to play better instead of lose, he was still trying to influence the result imo.

    Looks like they've got away with it anyway. Steaua allowed in. Fenerbahce banned from CL and Besiktas banned from EL.
    UEFA's Control and Disciplinary Committee has banned Beşiktaş and Fenerbahçe from European competitions on match-fixing charges. Beşiktaş has been banned for one year while Fenerbahçe has received a two year ban, with an additional one year that could eventually be converted into a cash fine.

    I wonder if Fenerbahce can afford to keep Kuyt, Sow, Alves etc. with no European money or will they look to sell them now?


  • #5
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Is that not still allowed in spain? ( giving other teams cash "gifts")


  • #6
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Oat23 wrote: »
    Doesn't matter if it was to get them to play better instead of lose, he was still trying to influence the result imo.

    Looks like they've got away with it anyway. Steaua allowed in. Fenerbahce banned from CL and Besiktas banned from EL.



    I wonder if Fenerbahce can afford to keep Kuyt, Sow, Alves etc. with no European money or will they look to sell them now?

    A lot of leagues do actually allow it.

    I mean, it's not in the rulebook but it's also not illegal.

    Granted, most of these leagues tend to be smaller, more obscure ones like in this instance the Romanian one.


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  • #7
    Ebbs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Ebbs


    While in theory letting a team pay a bonus is fine, it causes real problems. Obviously you should be trying to play your best every week, and a reward for that from another team is fine.

    If it becomes standardised though, teams wont play well as they arnt getting the bonus, or may demand a bigger one and in turn this forced teams to actually pay the bonuses every week.


  • #8
    leggo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    Ebbs wrote: »
    If it becomes standardised though, teams wont play well as they arnt getting the bonus, or may demand a bigger one and in turn this forced teams to actually pay the bonuses every week.

    I dunno about that, you're essentially saying that teams will hold others to ransom if they're not offered bonuses? This has gone on forever in Spain and I don't recall that ever being an issue (although straight up match-fixing has, but that's a different issue), it's just the moral ambiguity that hangs over the idea of it all that leaves people uncomfortable. Sure it can potentially be open to abuse, but it's a massive jump to say that it will be abused. The kind you have to wait to actually happen before coming down on it.

    On the verdict itself: if it means we'll still have Gigi Bacali interviews in the limelight while Steaua are in the Champions League, I fully support it. Any opportunity for the world to pick up on what a ****ing lunatic that chap is is welcomed by me. That is all.


  • #9
    Oat23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,379 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    leggo wrote: »

    On the verdict itself: if it means we'll still have Gigi Bacali interviews in the limelight while Steaua are in the Champions League, I fully support it. Any opportunity for the world to pick up on what a ****ing lunatic that chap is is welcomed by me. That is all.

    I wonder does his Romanian jail cell have the channel that carries the CL? :pac:


  • #10
    leggo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    They got him, did they? Aw, that's a shame. Completely understandable, mind, but he was fun in a Silvio Berlusconi kinda way.


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