Squats the Story MkII- Off topic thread

Sangre

RidleyRider wrote: »

I lost it at a dude who didn't put 150kg of plates back after stripping the bar before. Complete bellend of a thing to do.

Well, I do put them back - on the floor exactly where I found them.

Stench Blossoms

I eyeball the bejesus out of anyone who doesn't strip the bar.

Apparently my stink eye is very affective.

RidleyRider

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

I eyeball the bejesus out of anyone who doesn't strip the bar.

Apparently my stink eye is very affective.

Show them your guns and say 'You're gonna be the next victim' and they'll understand :pac:

@Sangre: if you found them right in the middle of the floor, would you put them back there?

Da Za

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

I eyeball the bejesus out of anyone who doesn't strip the bar.

Apparently my stink eye is very affective.

I'm sure you've some stink eye indeed

power pants

Ive trained all over dublin over the years and the gym Im currently at the last year is very strict for putting weights back and stripping the bars. Everyone also adheres to this too. (leg press though still gets ignored)

Stench Blossoms

RidleyRider wrote: »

Show them your guns and say 'You're gonna be the next victim' and they'll understand :pac:

@Sangre: if you found them right in the middle of the floor, would you put them back there?

I'll do that next.

...and be laughed out of the place!

Scuba Ste

power pants wrote: »

(leg press though still gets ignored)

Well it is just plate rack in fairness.

doctorwhogirl

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

I eyeball the bejesus out of anyone who doesn't strip the bar.

Apparently my stink eye is very affective.

I'd say all the lads think I'm a mega-b!tch cos of this. I also give stink eye to those who loiter around weights/racks etc... blatantly not doing any actual work.

Stench Blossoms

I'm gonna send you some pics of my stink eye DWG.

Dathai

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

I'm gonna send you some pics of my stink eye DWG.

RidleyRider

Dathai wrote: »

That was my face tonight when the ass rowing in the squat rack was done.

doctorwhogirl

For those of you who haven't witnessed it, Stench's stink eye is epic. If you are in the same gym as her at any stage, put the plates back.

JJayoo

Washing your hands after visiting the loo might help with the stink eye.

Mellor

I wanted to post this in Strengths Sports, but couldn't find an off topic thread over there - CBA starting anew thread of a quick question.

In regards to cutting water for a comp. What would be a decent amount to aim for for your first time.
Obviously bigger guys can cut more water. So lets say somebody competing at 70kg-ish.
I'd assume experienced level guys could push this to 8kg+, but whats a decent amount for a first time, looking for that sweet spot between a manageable cut and being above the upper limit on the day.

Sangre

Whats a decent number for max-rep full ROM push-ups? Not looking to train them but just curious.

dartstothesea

Mellor wrote: »

I wanted to post this in Strengths Sports, but couldn't find an off topic thread over there - CBA starting anew thread of a quick question.

In regards to cutting water for a comp. What would be a decent amount to aim for for your first time.
Obviously bigger guys can cut more water. So lets say somebody competing at 70kg-ish.
I'd assume experienced level guys could push this to 8kg+, but whats a decent amount for a first time, looking for that sweet spot between a manageable cut and being above the upper limit on the day.

If we're talking actually just depleting water and glycogen, 8kg is a serious amount. Would be very difficult for anyone under 100kg to manage that. I'm no expert but even to make 90kg I wouldn't be trying to cut more than 3-4kg in terms of fluids/glycogen etc

Sangre

Sangre wrote: »

Whats a decent number for max-rep full ROM push-ups? Not looking to train them but just curious.

50? At least I hope it's 50 because I tested mine last week and got 52 (chest to floor, full scap protraction at top).

Mellor

Water, glycogen, food, whatever you can squeeze out.
Basically whatever weight you can lose 48hours before weigh/in, and put back on in the next 12-24 hours.
Cut carbs, Water load, restrict sodium, sweat it out. Weigh-in and then load back up on carbs, salt, water.

For 8kg, I was taking big guys, who've done it a lot. ie 225-205lbs is pretty standard in elite MMA, that's 9kg.
Just curious what lads here who a bit of exp manage, Kev, COH, DaZa, Hanley etc. and how smaller lads get on

dartstothesea

I cut from maybe 94kg to 89.9999 in 2012 anyway. Didn't do a crazy amount of sweating, cut carbs etc from a few days before, water from 48 hrs before if I remember right (or was it 36? forget). It wasn't a drastic cut even though I barely made it, I just didn't cut that hard. I didn't replenish as cleverly or fully as I could have I think. Not bringing a ton of food with me on the day being a fool mistake

dartstothesea

I've heard it said that, apart from the fact that it's just the best of the best doing what they do best, the drastic extent of the cuts in pro MMA is a little more feasible to replenish because of it not being a pure strength sport. Dunno how much truth there is to that though. Gonna need ur endurance fuels too, like.

Ant11

gvn wrote: »

50? At least I hope it's 50 because I tested mine last week and got 52 (chest to floor, full scap protraction at top).

I'd say 50 proper push-ups would be at the higher end. Most people do them wrong so to do them correctly I'd say around 20+ would be good starting off. Obviously if you trained specifically for it you'd expect higher numbers.

LuckyLloyd

Sangre wrote: »

Whats a decent number for max-rep full ROM push-ups? Not looking to train them but just curious.

What do you weigh?

Oregano_State

dartstothesea wrote: »

If we're talking actually just depleting water and glycogen, 8kg is a serious amount. Would be very difficult for anyone under 100kg to manage that. I'm no expert but even to make 90kg I wouldn't be trying to cut more than 3-4kg in terms of fluids/glycogen etc

Mellor wrote: »

Water, glycogen, food, whatever you can squeeze out.
Basically whatever weight you can lose 48hours before weigh/in, and put back on in the next 12-24 hours.
Cut carbs, Water load, restrict sodium, sweat it out. Weigh-in and then load back up on carbs, salt, water.

For 8kg, I was taking big guys, who've done it a lot. ie 225-205lbs is pretty standard in elite MMA, that's 9kg.
Just curious what lads here who a bit of exp manage, Kev, COH, DaZa, Hanley etc. and how smaller lads get on

dartstothesea wrote: »

I cut from maybe 94kg to 89.9999 in 2012 anyway. Didn't do a crazy amount of sweating, cut carbs etc from a few days before, water from 48 hrs before if I remember right (or was it 36? forget). It wasn't a drastic cut even though I barely made it, I just didn't cut that hard. I didn't replenish as cleverly or fully as I could have I think. Not bringing a ton of food with me on the day being a fool mistake

dartstothesea wrote: »

I've heard it said that, apart from the fact that it's just the best of the best doing what they do best, the drastic extent of the cuts in pro MMA is a little more feasible to replenish because of it not being a pure strength sport. Dunno how much truth there is to that though. Gonna need ur endurance fuels too, like.

As far as I know, a big limiting factor is recovery in time for competition. The elite MMA guys get hooked up to an IV immediately after making weight, which is a much more efficient way of rehydrating and replenishing glycogen than oral consumption.

I have no experience in cutting BTW, but from a common sense point of view, I'd err on the side of caution for a first go at it. The extra weight won't do you a huge amount of good if you're only 85% recovered when you have to compete.

dartstothesea

I barely exceeded what was my 10x3 squat max at the end of the training cycle, put up a woeful bench (again didn't even match my training max) in that comp anyway. I couldn't say for sure how much that was due to being a bit depleted or just inexperience though. I do know I had mad random muscle cramps during and for a week or two (somehow) after though. Electrolytes must've got real messed up. Watch out for sodium balance I guess.

Essien

Does anywhere do cheap/good value flax seed?

I've been buying Linwood's in the supermarkets but I'd rather not pay €7ish for 400gm if at all avoidable.

Dave 101

Mellor wrote: »

I wanted to post this in Strengths Sports, but couldn't find an off topic thread over there - CBA starting anew thread of a quick question.

In regards to cutting water for a comp. What would be a decent amount to aim for for your first time.
Obviously bigger guys can cut more water. So lets say somebody competing at 70kg-ish.
I'd assume experienced level guys could push this to 8kg+, but whats a decent amount for a first time, looking for that sweet spot between a manageable cut and being above the upper limit on the day.

Around 5% body weight would be a good starting point for first cut

Sangre

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

What do you weigh?

83kg. Did 30 in one go the other day as part of 3 sets of max reps. Chest to floor, arms by side rather than out and flared. Never really do them so was just curious.

COH

How long do you have to put the weight back on? I've cut from close to 110kg heavily bloated to <100 the following Friday but only because I knew I had 24hrs to rehydrate atc.

thegreatiam

Sangre wrote: »

83kg. Did 30 in one go the other day as part of 3 sets of max reps. Chest to floor, arms by side rather than out and flared. Never really do them so was just curious.

I think once you're over 20 perfect form push ups then you're well above average.

The majority can't do more then 20 with most hovering about the 10 mark. And of those very few will do them with correct form. I'd say about 5% of people can do a perfect form push up.

Obviously with a cross section of reasonable fit people 20 would be a low bench mark.but the general population 20 is high.

I'd be impressed if someone could bang out 30 perfect form push ups in front of me. I'd be mildly surprised if they could do 50.
The 100 push ups bet is quite common in my world and I've seen loads of degenerates attempting it. But they have all been ugly arsed push ups which I wouldn't count. I don't think I've ever seen someone who wasn't a fitness professional or military able to do it.

It is funny watching some degenerate gambler standing up all red faced and proud that he has done X number of push ups only to be told that not one of them counted.most are elbows out head nods.

I'm not going to test any time soon but I would be surprised if I could get 20 with good form. So if you can do 30 then you're in an upper percentile.

Hanley

Oregano_State wrote: »

As far as I know, a big limiting factor is recovery in time for competition. The elite MMA guys get hooked up to an IV immediately after making weight, which is a much more efficient way of rehydrating and replenishing glycogen than oral consumption.

I have no experience in cutting BTW, but from a common sense point of view, I'd err on the side of caution for a first go at it. The extra weight won't do you a huge amount of good if you're only 85% recovered when you have to compete.

All sorts of nails being hit on the head.

Sangre

thegreatiam wrote: »

I think once you're over 20 perfect form push ups then you're well above average.

The majority can't do more then 20 with most hovering about the 10 mark. And of those very few will do them with correct form. I'd say about 5% of people can do a perfect form push up.

Obviously with a cross section of reasonable fit people 20 would be a low bench mark.but the general population 20 is high.

I'd be impressed if someone could bang out 30 perfect form push ups in front of me. I'd be mildly surprised if they could do 50.
The 100 push ups bet is quite common in my world and I've seen loads of degenerates attempting it. But they have all been ugly arsed push ups which I wouldn't count. I don't think I've ever seen someone who wasn't a fitness professional or military able to do it.

It is funny watching some degenerate gambler standing up all red faced and proud that he has done X number of push ups only to be told that not one of them counted.most are elbows out head nods.

I'm not going to test any time soon but I would be surprised if I could get 20 with good form. So if you can do 30 then you're in an upper percentile.

Now I'm seriously doubting my push-up form! Interesting though.

I rarely do them. Although a while back I was doing quite a few diamond push-ups for tricep work. But, they seem to be a good max rep exercise as its easy to go to failure. I also thinking its easier to be strict on form then with dumbbell exercises.

thegreatiam

well you said your elbows were tucked so I guess your form would be good.

Thats the main thing people do wrong when they are proving they can do push ups. And letting their back sag.

Ivan.Drago

thegreatiam wrote: »

well you said your elbows were tucked so I guess your form would be good.

Thats the main thing people do wrong when they are proving they can do push ups. And letting their back sag.

No piking at hips, no lower back sag (ie maintain plank throughout), no elbow flare, insides of elbows pointing forward (as much as possible), chest to floor, no momentum used, protracted scaps at top of rep - these are the cues I would be using to assess proper push up form. 50 would be positively beastly!

dor843088

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVtINe6Jv2U&feature=youtube_gdata_player

That feeling when a kangaroo is more jacked than you are. FML.

Mellor

dartstothesea wrote: »

I've heard it said that, apart from the fact that it's just the best of the best doing what they do best, the drastic extent of the cuts in pro MMA is a little more feasible to replenish because of it not being a pure strength sport. Dunno how much truth there is to that though. Gonna need ur endurance fuels too, like.

Yeah I'd have assume that a 15min fight was just as taxing a lifting. But maybe not.

COH wrote: »

How long do you have to put the weight back on? I've cut from close to 110kg heavily bloated to <100 the following Friday but only because I knew I had 24hrs to rehydrate atc.

It will be 24 hours. Friday evening weigh in, Saturday evening event.
Cutting from 73kg is the safe option, 75kg would be better. I wouldn't risk any more than that.

dylbert

Was anybody at the Klokov seminar in CrossFit Tipperary or know anybody who was at it, I'm interested to hear how it went.

dylbert

dylbert wrote: »

Was anybody at the Klokov seminar in CrossFit Tipperary or know anybody who was at it, I'm interested to hear how it went.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CDOHYz5eNs

googled eyes

Wore my new Power Perfects for the first time today. Front squats are so much more comfortable

Squatting in general ( with the bar ) was easier but front squats are a totally different ball game with lifting shoes on.

Delighted.

rab!dmonkey

Quick question - doesn't really justify its own thread:
Where's the cheapest place to get some standard plates, either in Dublin or online?

googled eyes

rab!dmonkey wrote: »

Quick question - doesn't really justify its own thread:
Where's the cheapest place to get some standard plates, either in Dublin or online?

Have you tried adverts.ie for second hand plates ?

gvn

gvn wrote: »

Klokov in Ireland

And another. This time with added leprechaun hat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO6B-9GNprM

Marty McFly

googled eyes wrote: »

Those 30 for 30 are great documentaries

My favorite one out of the ones I've seen is the Two Escobars brilliant.

Was away in Poland last week for 5 days got back on Wednesday and still feel shattered , finding it hard to get back into the swing of things gym yesterday for the first time killed me energy levels were shot.

Eating what you want and drinking to much is a killer on the system.

LuckyLloyd

gvn wrote: »

And another. This time with added leprechaun hat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO6B-9GNprM

Power Clean and Push Press @ 180kgs while wearing a large Leprechaun hat. :pac:

dylbert

gvn wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CDOHYz5eNs

I'm going to one of these on Tuesday

conzy

Did some indoor climbing yesterday for the first time. Serious forearm and lat doms this morning. Its great fun and savage for grip strength!

ronanc15

Anybody here at the IPO benchpress comp today? Some fine lifting. Great lift of 232.5kg from Bernard Delaney

dylbert

conzy wrote: »

Did some indoor climbing yesterday for the first time. Serious forearm and lat doms this morning. Its great fun and savage for grip strength!

Awesome Walls? I've been up there a few times, good craic but hard work alright, did you do top roping or bouldering?

arse..biscuits

Marty McFly wrote: »

My favorite one out of the ones I've seen is the Two Escobars brilliant.

Was away in Poland last week for 5 days got back on Wednesday and still feel shattered , finding it hard to get back into the swing of things gym yesterday for the first time killed me energy levels were shot.

Eating what you want and drinking to much is a killer on the system.

I watched the 2 Escobars documentary a while back, very interesting. I'd highly recommend it

conzy

dylbert wrote: »

Awesome Walls? I've been up there a few times, good craic but hard work alright, did you do top roping or bouldering?

Gravity in Inchicore, Its all bouldering walls there I think. Will definitely be heading back

helliwen

conzy wrote: »

Did some indoor climbing yesterday for the first time. Serious forearm and lat doms this morning. Its great fun and savage for grip strength!

^^This ^^

Have been going once a week since December. Great fun and great upper-body training!