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Squats the Story MkII- Off topic thread

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  • Subscribers Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭conzy


    Where have front squats been all my life

    Really enjoying them, not flexible enough to do the "clean" grip yet so I'm doing arms folded.. Killer on the shoulders, will just need to get bigger shoulders :pac:

    The depth I can get on them is unreal too, Not sure if that points to a tightness / mobility issue with my back squat or if front squats in general just allow that greater range of motion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,659 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    conzy wrote: »
    Where have front squats been all my life

    Really enjoying them, not flexible enough to do the "clean" grip yet so I'm doing arms folded.. Killer on the shoulders, will just need to get bigger shoulders :pac:

    The depth I can get on them is unreal too, Not sure if that points to a tightness / mobility issue with my back squat or if front squats in general just allow that greater range of motion.

    In teh same boat with the hold but working on it. Did them on Friday and only used the cross-arms hold for the top weight.

    They allow greater depth anyway but you might also have mobility issues :D


  • Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Use a band to stretch your wrists: loop one end around your right foot, say, and the other around the palm of your right hand when it's in the front rack position. You can then move your arm/shoulder around a bit and seek out tight angles. Within a week of doing that daily I could comfortably hold a front rack (with full grip on the bar, not just fingertips). Couldn't recommend it more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,659 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    gvn wrote: »
    Use a band to stretch your wrists: loop one end around your right foot, say, and the other around the palm of your right hand when it's in the front rack position. You can then move your arm/shoulder around a bit and seek out tight angles. Within a week of doing that daily I could comfortably hold a front rack (with full grip on the bar, not just fingertips). Couldn't recommend it more.


    Must give that a try. Been standing about a foot out from the wall and walking my hands down the wall, keeping full contact, like some sort of weird mime artist. Helped a bit alright but I'd only done it the once before Friday's front squats but it helped a little even at that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭DylanJM


    Make sure to work on your triceps, lats and thoracic extension as well when working towards the front rack. IMO these should be the main focus, the wrists tend to take up the slack from a lack of flexibility in these areas and that's why people complain of sore wrists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    One the lads in work has gone on a diet with his wife and without being to harsh told him it was bollocks really, its one these slimming world diets eating diet this and low fat that, no olive oil, real butter etc

    Anyone know of a good simple article that breaks it down and explains nutrition? I remember authority nutrition had a good one a while ago but can't find it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭Rubber_Soul


    One the lads in work has gone on a diet with his wife and without being to harsh told him it was bollocks really, its one these slimming world diets eating diet this and low fat that, no olive oil, real butter etc

    Anyone know of a good simple article that breaks it down and explains nutrition? I remember authority nutrition had a good one a while ago but can't find it.

    http://simplesciencefitness.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭dylbert


    Last nights seminar, it was amazing watching the man lift and a great insight into his training. His method of teaching is allot different to whats being thought in CrossFit, he said we drill technique allot but our bodies aren't strong enough for heavy weights, the number 1 problem he's seeing around the world is weak backs.

    Amazing night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,646 ✭✭✭Thud


    it woulad appear from these videos that Dmitry is particularly interested in womens weightlifting


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  • Subscribers Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭conzy


    The videos are gas the way he just wanders around with a camera. What a beasht of a man though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Essien


    I don't know anything about Klokov, but he is one hard looking mofo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    Russians are the scariest white people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Inspector Coptoor


    ^^^^

    Hmmm.
    What about the Saffers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    New shoes? Don't mind if I do!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭LG1234


    Im doing the Stronglifts 5x5 the last 14 weeks and have seen great gains. Have put on about 13kg and look great. Currently weigh 92kg at 6'2 (was really skinny before).

    I'm now squatting 83kgs, however after 3-4 sets its like my glutes go into shock. I have to lie down and kinda squirm for relief! It goes away after 30mins or so but makes it nearly impossible to complete my sets.
    I took a week off as i figured it might be tiredness. Came back the other day and hit the 5x5. However tonight I could only complete 2 sets of squats. Any ideas whats happening. I'm thinking of replacing the squats with deadlifts for a couple of weeks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭dylbert


    New shoes? Don't mind if I do!

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    You training in jeans? :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    dylbert wrote: »
    You training in jeans? :p

    I don't usually try on shoes in full gym attire. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭googled eyes


    New shoes? Don't mind if I do!

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    Nice.

    I just bought my first pair of lifting shoes last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭dylbert


    I don't usually try on shoes in full gym attire. :D

    Then how will you know if they match your headband? could be a massive fashion faux pas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    dylbert wrote: »
    Then how will you know if they match your headband? could be a massive fashion faux pas.

    I have a headband in every colour so no fear of them not matching.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Duck's hoop


    LG1234 wrote: »
    Im doing the Stronglifts 5x5 the last 14 weeks and have seen great gains. Have put on about 13kg and look great. Currently weigh 92kg at 6'2 (was really skinny before).

    I'm now squatting 83kgs, however after 3-4 sets its like my glutes go into shock. I have to lie down and kinda squirm for relief! It goes away after 30mins or so but makes it nearly impossible to complete my sets.
    I took a week off as i figured it might be tiredness. Came back the other day and hit the 5x5. However tonight I could only complete 2 sets of squats. Any ideas whats happening. I'm thinking of replacing the squats with deadlifts for a couple of weeks


    No idea. Is there a 1 missing off that 83?

    But a kilo gain per week is a shed full. Over 2 stone. Nearly 30 pounds. In less than 4 months.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭LG1234


    No idea. Is there a 1 missing off that 83?

    But a kilo gain per week is a shed full. Over 2 stone. Nearly 30 pounds. In less than 4 months.

    No theres no 1 missing off that 83, but I'm speaking in kgs. I know 83kgs is still a pretty crap squat but I've always had pretty weak glutes and only had major knee surgery less than 10 months ago, resulting in muscle wastage and virtually no quads in one leg. So I'm really happy with my progress, feel much better, posture is much better and I feel way stronger. Just need to figure out whats this problem with my glutes so I can keep adding weight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,510 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    LG1234 wrote: »
    No theres no 1 missing off that 83, but I'm speaking in kgs. I know 83kgs is still a pretty crap squat but I've always had pretty weak glutes and only had major knee surgery less than 10 months ago, resulting in muscle wastage and virtually no quads in one leg. So I'm really happy with my progress, feel much better, posture is much better and I feel way stronger. Just need to figure out whats this problem with my glutes so I can keep adding weight.

    What do yo mean by shock - are you fatigued, cramping or what? Are you just overworking them given your previous issues?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭LG1234


    What do yo mean by shock - are you fatigued, cramping or what? Are you just overworking them given your previous issues?

    Its hard to explain, but it feels like cramp, only milder than full cramp. Feels like its tight and about to go into a spasm i probably am overworking them, but have been fine up until about 3 weeks ago. Took a week off, had one great session and then today back to the glute pain. Think i may stop doing squats for a couple of weeks and see how I get on. Or replace them with deadlifts for a couple of weeks for some variation. Or just drop the weight down by about 20kgs and work my way back up again. Really don't want to change though as Im making such great progress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,619 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    It's probably an issue with your form and/or posture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,510 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    LG1234 wrote: »
    Its hard to explain, but it feels like cramp, only milder than full cramp. Feels like its tight and about to go into a spasm i probably am overworking them, but have been fine up until about 3 weeks ago. Took a week off, had one great session and then today back to the glute pain. Think i may stop doing squats for a couple of weeks and see how I get on. Or replace them with deadlifts for a couple of weeks for some variation. Or just drop the weight down by about 20kgs and work my way back up again. Really don't want to change though as Im making such great progress.

    Foam roll them, drink more water. Are you stretching at all?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭LG1234


    Foam roll them, drink more water. Are you stretching at all?


    I drink tonnes of water. I do about 15mins of stretches beforehand and then do about 10 warm up squats with about 20kgs on the bar. Going to give myself till Sunday and then try heavy squats again. if I can't do it then I'll leave them out for 10 days and let me legs properly rest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    LG1234 wrote: »
    then do about 10 warm up squats with about 20kgs on the bar.

    Are you going from 20kg to 83kg in one jump?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,619 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    This just poped up on my facebook feed.
    Matt Wichlinski is a by no means a small guy. But, holy ****, HHH dwarfs him. His arm is massive.

    1966909_10152232441728996_267239672_n.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    So the 'sport of fitness' announced its first Open Workout last night. Drumroll:

    10 min amrap of:
    30 Double Unders
    15 Power Snatches (any ground to overhead method acceptable) @ 34kgs / 25kgs

    A repeat of one they did three years ago.

    I hadn't registered for the Open and didn't intend doing any of the workouts but I'd imagine I'd be a bit disappointed in something so...boring. Or maybe not? What do you make of it dylbert?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    First open workout is traditionally boring and simple. No surprise really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Hanley wrote: »
    First open workout is traditionally boring and simple. No surprise really.

    Well, last year was Burpees and snatches over 17 minutes with gradually increasing weight on the snatches eventually working up to heavy weights. It was far superior in my opinion (though wtf do I know I suppose) because beginners were going to be able to target the first 100 reps over the 17 minutes but the big players were going to be seperated by the heavier reps on the back end of the workout.

    In this case, many beginners struggle to do double unders while few enough reps will separate the top end when it's said and done (I reckon, could be proven wrong on that).

    I though last year's Open workouts were well constructed generally, this seems a step back for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭dylbert


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Well, last year was Burpees and snatches over 17 minutes with gradually increasing weight on the snatches eventually working up to heavy weights. It was far superior in my opinion (though wtf do I know I suppose) because beginners were going to be able to target the first 100 reps over the 17 minutes but the big players were going to be seperated by the heavier reps on the back end of the workout.

    In this case, many beginners struggle to do double unders while few enough reps will separate the top end when it's said and done (I reckon, could be proven wrong on that).

    I though last year's Open workouts were well constructed generally, this seems a step back for me.

    DU'sl followed by P Snatches are diseptivly tough, even at 35kg, it's a seriously gassy workout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    dylbert wrote: »
    DU'sl followed by P Snatches are diseptivly tough, even at 35kg, it's a seriously gassy workout.

    Yep, it looks gassy alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭dylbert


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Yep, it looks gassy alright.

    Will be no bother to the top guys, more of a sprint for them.
    I'm gonna give it a go on Monday, I'll let yis know how it goes.

    I think 2 years ago the first round was 7min AMRAP burpees, now that was boring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    dylbert wrote: »
    Will be no bother to the top guys, more of a sprint for them.
    I'm gonna give it a go on Monday, I'll let yis know how it goes.

    I think 2 years ago the first round was 7min AMRAP burpees, now that was boring.

    Yeah, Hanley is right obv - they generally aren't particularly innovative. I just felt a bit more thought than usual went into last year's opener and was looking forward to more of the same. Anyway...

    Best of luck with it on Monday!! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    Lloyd are you not doing it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Duck's hoop


    LG1234 wrote: »
    No theres no 1 missing off that 83, but I'm speaking in kgs. I know 83kgs is still a pretty crap squat but I've always had pretty weak glutes and only had major knee surgery less than 10 months ago, resulting in muscle wastage and virtually no quads in one leg. So I'm really happy with my progress, feel much better, posture is much better and I feel way stronger. Just need to figure out whats this problem with my glutes so I can keep adding weight.

    Wasn't implying it was crap, just in relation to putting on 2 stone (some of that has to be muscle) I thought you might have made a typo!

    If you're missing a massive part of one of your legs they're just tired is my expert assessment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Lloyd are you not doing it?

    Nope.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    I think once you're over 20 perfect form push ups then you're well above average.

    The majority can't do more then 20 with most hovering about the 10 mark. And of those very few will do them with correct form. I'd say about 5% of people can do a perfect form push up.

    Obviously with a cross section of reasonable fit people 20 would be a low bench mark.but the general population 20 is high.

    I'd be impressed if someone could bang out 30 perfect form push ups in front of me. I'd be mildly surprised if they could do 50.
    The 100 push ups bet is quite common in my world and I've seen loads of degenerates attempting it. But they have all been ugly arsed push ups which I wouldn't count. I don't think I've ever seen someone who wasn't a fitness professional or military able to do it.

    It is funny watching some degenerate gambler standing up all red faced and proud that he has done X number of push ups only to be told that not one of them counted.most are elbows out head nods.

    I'm not going to test any time soon but I would be surprised if I could get 20 with good form. So if you can do 30 then you're in an upper percentile.
    Tried this again and really tried to watch my form and only got 25 this time. Good Max Rep exercise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Any example of correct pushup technique? ass up chest down?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Any example of correct pushup technique? ass up chest down?

    That doesn't sound right? I thought you were meant to keep your body pretty horizontal.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Janelle Creamy Crown


    Straight line


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,619 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Any example of correct pushup technique? ass up chest down?
    I'm not sure, but I guess something like;
    Chest to ground, spine braced throughout


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Janelle Creamy Crown




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    bluewolf wrote: »

    Sucralose? I tend to avoid it. I'd be interested in trying to make my own variant of these without it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    bluewolf wrote: »
    What does 3g net carbs mean when they're 22g of carbs?


  • Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sangre wrote: »
    What does 3g net carbs mean when they're 22g of carbs?

    17g of it is fibre.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    I don't get the quest bar love.

    They're still processed packaged food.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Janelle Creamy Crown


    Hanley wrote: »
    I don't get the quest bar love.

    They're still processed packaged food.

    Good for emergencies!
    Also oreos


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