Squats the Story MkII- Off topic thread

dor843088

RidleyRider wrote: »

There's a few apps too.

Some dude created a wendler 531 app and used wendlers name. Wendlers response "ill ****ing kill that guy "

kevpants

dor843088 wrote: »

Some dude created a wendler 531 app and used wendlers name. Wendlers response "ill ****ing kill that guy "

He will in his hole.

Blacktie.

I'm going to buy some resistance bands for the first time this weekend. How do I know what level to go for? Will mainly be using them for some warm up and mobility work.

dor843088

kevpants wrote: »

He will in his hole.

Did you write the app or something?

kevpants

dor843088 wrote: »

Did you write the app or something?

No but Wendler annoys the crap out of me.

Stench Blossoms

dor843088 wrote: »

Some dude created a wendler 531 app and used wendlers name. Wendlers response "ill ****ing kill that guy "

Pretty sure if the information is freely available online then there's nothing he can do about it.

Why can't he just be grateful that someone went to the trouble to make an app with his program?

Da Za

Kevpants hates him for some reason.

I love him, personally, great n sound guy!

Least he doesn't plagiarize

Dermighty

Blacktie. wrote: »

I'm going to buy some resistance bands for the first time this weekend. How do I know what level to go for? Will mainly be using them for some warm up and mobility work.

I bought a purple one from a shop in town (I've used a variety in the gym) and it was ridiculously tight, completely pointless going for something like that.

eBay is a good option for resistance bands.

Ant11

Blacktie. wrote: »

I'm going to buy some resistance bands for the first time this weekend. How do I know what level to go for? Will mainly be using them for some warm up and mobility work.

Red band for shoulder mobility, band pull apart, disclocates etc

Green band for band distractions, pulling your hips before you squat etc.

Can pretty much do everything with these 2.

Mellor

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

Pretty sure if the information is freely available online then there's nothing he can do about it.

The information is free availible, but if he is profiting from the app, it might be different.
Regardless, no matter what the story with free info, he's using Wendler's name and he could probably tear him a new one for that.

Quick question...

I changed from low-ish bar squats to high-bar squats today. When I did low bar my upper arms and elbows stayed in line with my torso. When doing high bar today I found my elbows stayed underneath the bar, which at times meant by elbows were almost slightly in front of my torso. As far as I understand it, this is a good thing... external rotation of the arm is coupled with thoracic extension, so it's easier to maintain a "big chest." Is this right? Or should I make an effort to keep my upper arms strictly parallel to my body? I tried that and found it less stable. If this even makes sense... There's a lot of conflicting information out there. I suppose in time when I have the mobility to maintain a vertical torso when high-bar squatting this question will become irrelevant.

dylbert

gvn wrote: »

Quick question...

I changed from low-ish bar squats to high-bar squats today. When I did low bar my upper arms and elbows stayed in line with my torso. When doing high bar today I found my elbows stayed underneath the bar, which at times meant by elbows were almost slightly in front of my torso. As far as I understand it, this is a good thing... external rotation of the arm is coupled with thoracic extension, so it's easier to maintain a "big chest." Is this right? Or should I make an effort to keep my upper arms strictly parallel to my body? I tried that and found it less stable. If this even makes sense... There's a lot of conflicting information out there. I suppose in time when I have the mobility to maintain a vertical torso when high-bar squatting this question will become irrelevant.

Are you using the same hand placement for both squats? Try narrower for high bar, might help.

dylbert

dylbert wrote: »

Are you using the same hand placement for both squats? Try narrower for high bar, might help.

Nope, different placement. Hands are now thumb distance in from the smooth part of the bar (same place I hold the bar when front squatting). With low bar my palms were out at the ring. I'm just wondering really if keeping elbows underneath the bar (i.e. forearms perpendicular to the floor) is a good thing, even if that means they're not parallel to the torso. Probably overthinking this a lot, though...

dylbert

gvn wrote: »

Nope, different placement. Hands are now thumb distance in from the smooth part of the bar (same place I hold the bar when front squatting). With low bar my palms were out at the ring. I'm just wondering really if keeping elbows underneath the bar (i.e. forearms perpendicular to the floor) is a good thing, even if that means they're not parallel to the torso. Probably overthinking this a lot, though...

Not sure myself, don't think it's an issue, the narrower grip will allow the elbows to drop more vertical anyway.

arse..biscuits

100 hardest body weight exercises

http://ashotofadrenaline.net/hardest-body-weight-exercises-of-all-time/

dor843088

How come a lot of people on here rag on wendler , 531 and the elitefts guys? Seems weird to me since they seem to put out some decent no bull**** information.

conzy

Was at snowbombing music / skiing festival last week, lots of good skiing.. May have hyper extended my knee, physio tomorrow will know more then, hoping its not too serious

CeannRua

Not sure if this has been posted already, but the TV3 programme about their presenter Lisa Cannon training as a powerlifter is on tomorrow night at 8.

dylbert

conzy wrote: »

Was at snowbombing music / skiing festival last week, lots of good skiing.. May have hyper extended my knee, physio tomorrow will know more then, hoping its not too serious

Is that in Mayerhofen? Was there snowboarding last year, great spot, I'd say the festivals good craic, how was the snow?
Best of luck with the knee.

Dermighty

I drink 4 cups of coffee a day, sometimes 5. Always ground, always strong. two before training and two or three during the rest of the day. I work at night and I get up (relatively) early.

It doesn't make me feel bad. Are their long term downsides to this? Besides becoming desensitized to coffee.

I drink decaff too but it tastes poor compared to regular coffee. I like the taste of coffee, so it's not all about the caffeine.

conzy

dylbert wrote: »

Is that in Mayerhofen? Was there snowboarding last year, great spot, I'd say the festivals good craic, how was the snow?
Best of luck with the knee.

Snow was excellent on the rastkogel, fairly slushy on the lower slopes, especially towards the end of the week

cc87

Dermighty wrote: »

I drink 4 cups of coffee a day, sometimes 5. Always ground, always strong. two before training and two or three during the rest of the day. I work at night and I get up (relatively) early.

It doesn't make me feel bad. Are their long term downsides to this? Besides becoming desensitized to coffee.

I drink decaff too but it tastes poor compared to regular coffee. I like the taste of coffee, so it's not all about the caffeine.

Unless your putting butter into it, it will kill you :pac:

Theresalwaysone

Dermighty wrote: »

I drink 4 cups of coffee a day, sometimes 5. Always ground, always strong. two before training and two or three during the rest of the day. I work at night and I get up (relatively) early.

It doesn't make me feel bad. Are their long term downsides to this? Besides becoming desensitized to coffee.

I drink decaff too but it tastes poor compared to regular coffee. I like the taste of coffee, so it's not all about the caffeine.

I'd be the exact same as you regarding daily intake except I work early, 7:30-4.

I havent felt any downsides. Sleep quality is still fine which is the usual major complaint.

Dermighty

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

I'd be the exact same as you regarding daily intake except I work early, 7:30-4.

I havent felt any downsides. Sleep quality is still fine which is the usual major complaint.

My sleep is good. That will all change soon

cletus van damme

Dermighty wrote: »

My sleep is good. That will all change soon

my sleep was good too and then I quit coffee and it was better.
I woke fresher - hard to pinpoint cos I woke fresh before.

I have 2/3 a week still but that's down from 2/3 a day.

people have different reactions and sensitivity to it though so you'll never really know unless you quit it for a while and see how you feel.

RidleyRider

Just spent half an hour getting talked to about juice+ by some rep. What a load of bollocks!

Blacktie.

RidleyRider wrote: »

Just spent half an hour getting talked to about juice+ by some rep. What a load of bollocks!

Did they try to recruit you?

RidleyRider

Blacktie. wrote: »

Did they try to recruit you?

Yeah. Mostly looking for advertising on my PT page.

Trying to tell me powdered vege and fruit will make people lose weight alone, my balls will it!

Hanley

RidleyRider wrote: »

Yeah. Mostly looking for advertising on my PT page.

Trying to tell me powdered vege and fruit will make people lose weight alone, my balls will it!

I'm getting upset I haven't been hassled yet.

JJayoo

RidleyRider wrote: »

Yeah. Mostly looking for advertising on my PT page.

Trying to tell me powdered vege and fruit will make people lose weight alone, my balls will it!

Link to your PT page please, I am in a nosey mood

RidleyRider

JJayoo wrote: »

Link to your PT page please, I am in a nosey mood

PM you! Don't want mod troubles!

RidleyRider

Hanley wrote: »

I'm getting upset I haven't been hassled yet.

Man they talk some fair bull****! He wanted me to talk to some PT about it and the glorious miracles it brings.

deadlybuzzman

No idea how to embed a vine but anyway

https://vine.co/v/MMYigAmzKW1

Dermighty

Deadlift Week 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyK-znWRlcE

I am aware my hips went up before the bar did, I'll make sure it doesn't happen again!

Squat week 3

Set 4/5:

Set 5/5:

Alf Veedersane

You could use your hips a bit more on the squats.

But that's just me sayin'.

RidleyRider

Squats look good, bit stickman like:P

Try think of pushing the floor away deadlifting. Should keep your hips down a tad longer.

Alf Veedersane

RidleyRider wrote: »

Squats look good, bit stickman like:P

Try think of pushing the floor away deadlifting. Should keep your hips down a tad longer.

The neck a touch more neutral too.

You don't have to look up at the heavens when you're saying aprayer before the deadlift...that should help with the neck position starting out :pac:

RidleyRider

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

The neck a touch more neutral too.

You don't have to look up at the heavens when you're saying aprayer before the deadlift...that should help with the neck position starting out :pac:

Yeah the neck too. I think it's thought to have a neutral neck but a lot of us don't do it:P

Alf Veedersane

Yeah, having the neck in extension just destabilises the spine. I'm inclined to do it myself but have worked extra hard on it lately.

Stench Blossoms

Is there a reason why you aren't pausing at the top and just bombing it back down? Sorry I'm not up to date with this.

RidleyRider

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

Is there a reason why you aren't pausing at the top and just bombing it back down? Sorry I'm not up to date with this.

I thought he was working to a tempo but it looks as though he does it with them all. Probs habit.

Brian?

Dermighty wrote: »

Deadlift Week 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyK-znWRlcE

I am aware my hips went up before the bar did, I'll make sure it doesn't happen again!

Squat week 3

Set 4/5:

Set 5/5:

Squats look decent.

What's with the tracksuit bottoms? Squats should be done in shorts.

Dermighty

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

You could use your hips a bit more on the squats.

But that's just me sayin'.

Use my hips more, you mean bending at the hips, am I torso forward a bit? My hips were/are particularly tight today and I feel like I've a potentially injured left hip. I did a number of hip mobility exercises but the left is still rusty.

RidleyRider wrote: »

Squats look good, bit stickman like:P

Try think of pushing the floor away deadlifting. Should keep your hips down a tad longer.

Stickman meaning like a demonstration stickman video? I'll take that if so

The hips up before lifting was advice given by the trainer who taught me the clean and said that ideally the same should apply to the deadlift. In hindsight, having done some research it's wrong and is not something I should be doing.

RidleyRider wrote: »

I thought he was working to a tempo but it looks as though he does it with them all. Probs habit.

I prefer to not having a pause at the top.

The descent feels controlled.

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

The neck a touch more neutral too.

You don't have to look up at the heavens when you're saying aprayer before the deadlift...that should help with the neck position starting out :pac:

I confess that there is a tv right over the platform, something caught my eye :P

Neck more neutral on the deadlift or squat?

RidleyRider

Sometimes on near/max efforts looking up gives a sort of hope it's coming to an end/up.

But more neutral on the DL Dermighty.

RidleyRider

Brian? wrote: »

Squats look decent.

What's with the tracksuit bottoms? Squats should be done in shorts.

I call BS on the shorts. Hate squatting in them. Fat pants FTW!

Dermighty

RidleyRider wrote: »

Sometimes on near/max efforts looking up gives a sort of hope it's coming to an end/up.

But more neutral on the DL Dermighty.

I only DL'd three reps in total today. 60kgx1, 110kgx1, 150kgx1. Felt much better than other days because of the mobility work.

I don't intentionally look up or have a non-neutral head position.

Stench Blossoms

RidleyRider wrote: »

I call BS on the shorts. Hate squatting in them. No pants FTW!

FYP

Blacktie.

What's people opinions on metcons? I hear it's a pretty solid alternative to cardio but I'd rather not have it affect my regular workouts either. I'm currently doing RPT 3 times a week and was thinking of adding in metcons for the other 3 days. Currently on a cut.

Hanley

Dermighty wrote: »

Deadlift Week 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyK-znWRlcE

I am aware my hips went up before the bar did, I'll make sure it doesn't happen again!

Squat week 3

Set 4/5:

Set 5/5:

Hope this helps...

May take a few to upload.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4VJbsjHPog

Dermighty

Thanks for the feedback Hanley.

Deadlift: The angle of the video was bad, just a result of the particular platform I was on. I'll get a better angle the next time.

I did set up as per the set up section in the supple leopard book and a number of other videos I've seen on setting up for the deadlift. Glutes+core were tight+engaged and I've noted that obviously didn't bring the lats down enough/at all. This was all before I bent to get a grip on the bar. I don't know if I need to be lower when I start the lift or what the story is, I understand that the bar should rise as I rise, in my instance my hips/ass rises first then the bar rises as the arms take the slack out of the bar, meaning my lower back does all the work (and gives me lower back pain). What causes the shins to move over the bar? Hardly my ankles as I deadlifted at the end of the session so I was still mobile. The line of the bar is over the middle of my foot (halfway between my instep and the start of my toes).

Squat: I haven't been doing a lot of squatting, just on two days since the first video I put up so what you see is all the mobility work rather than practice. I wasn't actually sure what I was supposed to be doing at the top of the squat but what you mentioned about bringing the elbows forward etc to avoid adjusting at the bottom makes sense.

Yeah it's a cool gym, that area has 4 power cages w/ 4 platforms attached and another 4 platforms at the other side of the room.