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Hardman 2013

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  • 14-06-2013 10:10pm
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    trainerman
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭


    Anyone done / doing this race? Planning on doing it in August but won't get down before race weekend to see the bike course. I know its the Ring of Kerry but can anyone give me any views / advice on it? Everyone I mention it to just say "tough course!"
    How do the 2 big climbs compare to say the climb at the Humbert Challenge or teh Tri an Mhi half? Or the climb to the Long Womans Grave in the Cooleys?

    Thanks


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    Plastic Sheeting
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    is it not just an ironman?


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    rodneyr1981
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    Plastic Sheeting wrote: »
    is it not just an ironman?

    Just an ironman....???? Is there such a thing as just an IM!


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    Plastic Sheeting
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    rodneyr1981 wrote: »
    Just an ironman....???? Is there such a thing as just an IM!

    Why not call it an ironman after the people who created the event? You can't just change the name like that, sounds like copyright infringment


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    dquirke1
    Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭dquirke1


    Plastic Sheeting wrote: »
    You can't just change the name like that, sounds like copyright infringment

    Emmm, "Ironman" is a trademark of WTC and they're pretty strict in enforcing it...

    Lots of unofficial races use -man in the name. Eireman, Shadowman, Norseman, etc...


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    dquirke1
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    BTW, the hardman bike course isn't that bad...
    It is the ROK, but in the opposite direction so you get the hills out of the way early...

    The two main climbs are Molls gap, right at the start and is 5k at around 4% and Coomakista is around 6k at 3%.

    A lot of the roads have been resurfaced lately as well and are in pretty good condition all the way round :-)


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    trainerman
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭trainerman


    dquirke1 wrote: »
    BTW, the hardman bike course isn't that bad...
    It is the ROK, but in the opposite direction so you get the hills out of the way early...

    The two main climbs are Molls gap, right at the start and is 5k at around 4% and Coomakista is around 6k at 3%.

    A lot of the roads have been resurfaced lately as well and are in pretty good condition all the way round :-)

    Cheers - good news on the roads - had heard some parts were pretty bad!


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    BennyMul
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    did it last year,
    The road surface is fine can’t recall any bad sections.
    the route is not that hard as mentioned above a few hills at the start the rest is rolling road.
    Can be windy in spots especially on the costal parts.
    As the day went on you come across more traffic which in the towns can slow you down a wee bit.

    I reckon the hardest part of the day was the lack of bodies, the road was lonely in places.

    here is the garmin link to the route
    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/215357254


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    trainerman
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭trainerman


    Cheers Benny - thanks for the link - good looking bike split - if you were lonely with that split then I'm in trouble!!


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    griffin100
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    trainerman wrote: »
    Cheers Benny - thanks for the link - good looking bike split - if you were lonely with that split then I'm in trouble!!

    It took me almost an hr longer than Benny and I was lonely on the bike too - thats the nature of a small field on a one lap route with lots of twists and turns.

    A great race, I've done it twice and love it. I can't do it this year but I suspect I'll be back at some stage.


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    trainerman
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    griffin100 wrote: »
    It took me almost an hr longer than Benny and I was lonely on the bike too - thats the nature of a small field on a one lap route with lots of twists and turns.

    A great race, I've done it twice and love it. I can't do it this year but I suspect I'll be back at some stage.

    I do all my training on my own so used to just me and my garmin trying to psych each other out!!:D


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    Shedite27
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    Is there a separate thread for the Olympic version of this race? Been trying to find some info on the Olympic but any googles of "hardman" seems to just bring back IM distance chatter. Is the Olympic a different name or something?

    OR, anyone doing the Olympic?


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    Muhozol
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    Hi there I'm doing Olympic for the first time ever. Killarney it's my home town so I'm quite familiar with them routes so let me know if you've any questions. This is my first season so should be happy just crossing the finish line. The bike course is nice and flat but can be windy on certain occasions. Hope to see you in August


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    The Davestator
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    Bump

    Anybody doing this who has more 'street cred' in this forum than me want to start a 2014 thread!


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    trainerman
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭trainerman


    I did it last year and couldn't recommend it highly enough. Will be back - just not this year!


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    Trig1
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    Sorry to dig up an old thread but might be interested in giving this a lash next year..can anyone tell me is the run 1x 42k loop or 4x 10k loops...


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    trainerman
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    Trig1 wrote: »
    Sorry to dig up an old thread but might be interested in giving this a lash next year..can anyone tell me is the run 1x 42k loop or 4x 10k loops...

    It was 3 x 14km last year. Nice loop - all flat. Through transition / finish each time.


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    trainerman
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    Trig1 wrote: »
    Sorry to dig up an old thread but might be interested in giving this a lash next year..can anyone tell me is the run 1x 42k loop or 4x 10k loops...

    It was 3 x 14km last year. Nice loop - all flat. Through transition / finish each time.


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    griffin100
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    It was also a 3 x 14km lap this year.

    There was no mention of a 2015 race on the day and there's nothing on the website about a 2015 race. Would be interested to see if one is planned. Would be a shame if not as it's a race I like.


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    Podge83
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    griffin100 wrote: »
    It was also a 3 x 14km lap this year.

    There was no mention of a 2015 race on the day and there's nothing on the website about a 2015 race. Would be interested to see if one is planned. Would be a shame if not as it's a race I like.


    Rumour is that its going ahead but the Olympic Distance race may be scrapped.

    I cant add any more than that only that I have my eye on it myself as a possible target for 2015.


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    Brick Session
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    Was recently in chat with Alan Ryan of Hardman about 2015 and at that stage he was confident it was happening in 2015.


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    catweazle
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    This should have been where Ironman/Challenge went for. Dealing with all the councils in Dublin must be an impossible task


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    griffin100
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    catweazle wrote: »
    This should have been where Ironman/Challenge went for. Dealing with all the councils in Dublin must be an impossible task

    You'd need to make major changes to the swim and run course to make this a mass entry race I think. The run especially would get very congested. This year was the first year I've done this race when I actually started to worry on the bike what with the congestion in some of the towns, especially Caharciveen when I had to stop fully in a long traffic jam. I'd still go back and do it again though :)


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    #24
    Podge83
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    Alan Ryan Has just announced that the 2015 event opens tomorrow:

    Entries for the Hardman 2015 will open tomorrow morning the 1st of October. The race will take place on Saturday August the 22nd at 6.30am. We have a big increase in the prize fund which will be posted shortly on this page and on the website. We also have some very special deals on entries, particularly for the early entries. fees will be as follows:
    Until 31st of October: 150 euros for individuals and ALSO for teams.
    Until the 31st of December: 160 euros for individuals, 180 for teams.
    Until the 31st of March: 180 euros for individuals, 210 for teams.
    Until 31st of July: 200 for individuals, 240 for teams.
    So there you have it, a full distance tri in the best location in the world at unbeatable prices.
    The entry link will be posted here first thing tomorrow morning.
    Alan Ryan

    Seriously tempted to give it a shot!!


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    Brick Session
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    Was toying with the idea of doing the Shadowman in 2015 but as I have unfinished business in Kerry its hard to turn it down at €150


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    slayer91
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    Hi,

    Is the run on a grass surface or road??

    Regards


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    Brick Session
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    slayer91 wrote: »
    Hi,

    Is the run on a grass surface or road??

    Regards

    Twas all on road in 2012 IIRC, well the pathways in the National Park mostly


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    griffin100
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    This year the run was on a mix of compacted trail and tar paths in the national park. There was a couple of kms per lap on concrete paths.


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    #29
    Trig1
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    There actually seems to be a lot of interest ( on this forum anyway ) in the hardman! Is there any reason why there is only an average of 50 racing each year? Distance? Not an IM branded race? Location?


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    Podge83
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    How many did Shadow man full distance? - It compares favorably with that. This race (I haven't done the full but have done the Olympic distance in the past) seems to get good reviews and repeat entrants.


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    Trig1
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    I suppose if I was to ask another way. I don't suppose there is anyone out there that has done the 3 Irish long distance races... ? Eireman hardman and shadowman? Or .... Which race would people reccomend for a first long distance race? Leaning towards Hardman but haven't heard much about shadowman! Are the run and cycle flat or hilly etc?


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