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True Detective [HBO] [** Spoilers **]

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    #2102
    fin12
    Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    DoYouEvenLift wrote: »
    Even with that hairline of his?

    Yes I didnt even notice :):).


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    #2103
    Mike Litoris
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    I look like Vince Vaughan.


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    #2104
    Chain Smoker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Chain Smoker


    DoYouEvenLift wrote: »
    If he goes from this back to another stupid, sh!t comedy then the guy's a fuking moron.

    Don't worry, his last one was such a flop that it's likely put an end to his run as Hollywood's most bafflinglingly long-lasting comedy lead. As far as I can see Vaughn was sliding through by continually making these incredibly bland things that are designed to plug quiet gaps in the major film release schedule and likely perform amazing well on flights (i.e. the kind of vacuous inoffensive crap that's perfect to drift in and out of sleep of throughout).

    At least Sandler was ambitiously cynical, a dreamer of sorts, mining new levels of sh*t all the time and in the process healthily greasing the palms of everyone around him whilst making absolute bank.


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    #2105
    DoYouEvenLift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    Chain Smoker wrote: »
    Don't worry, his last one was such a flop that it's likely put an end to his run as Hollywood's most bafflinglingly long-lasting comedy lead. As far as I can see Vaughn was sliding through by continually making these incredibly bland things that are designed to plug quiet gaps in the major film release schedule and likely perform amazing well on flights (i.e. the kind of vacuous inoffensive crap that's perfect to drift in and out of sleep of throughout).

    At least Sandler was ambitiously cynical, a dreamer of sorts, mining new levels of sh*t all the time and in the process healthily greasing the palms of everyone around him whilst making absolute bank.


    Can say that again, he was one of the highest paid actors laste year apparently with over $40m lmao...


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    #2106
    Effects
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    What I didn't get was why Bezzerides stuck with Jordan Semyon, what did she have to gain from that? She had never met her before.


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    #2107
    don ramo
    Registered Users Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    Effects wrote: »
    What I didn't get was why Bezzerides stuck with Jordan Semyon, what did she have to gain from that? She had never met her before.
    i asked this question a while back, still waiting for the lovers to explain it,


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    #2108
    Effects
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    She had no problem sending one of the jewel heist kids who was a witness off on a bus without caring where she went. Then she meets up with the gangsters wife and spends a year or so with her? Jordan has nothing to gain from the truth coming out except seeing people she holds responsible for Franks death being taken down. She's just the wife of a dead gangster.


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    #2109
    drugstore cowboy
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    Walton Goggins needs to be in S3


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    #2110
    Effects
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    He'd need someone like James Quall to act opposite him.


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    #2111
    byte
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    byte


    drugstore cowboy wrote: »
    Walton Goggins needs to be in S3
    Good God, no! :eek:


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    #2112
    sheroman01
    Registered Users Posts: 4,669 ✭✭✭sheroman01


    Just finished watching Season 2. I kept putting it off cause I was afriad it wouldn't live up to season 1's standards. After the first few minutes, I knew I'd love it. I thought it was fantastic. Unreal acting, so well written, the music, everything. I wasn't sure how I'd feel about the big trio but in the end I loved each of their characters. It did take a while to get used to Rachel McAdams and Vince Vaughan, especially given their new roles which you're not used to seeing them play! But after a few episodes you grow to like them. Overall a brilliant season and can't wait for the next one.


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    #2113
    el diablo
    Registered Users Posts: 5,752 ✭✭✭el diablo


    Adam Sandler's being lined up for season 3 I hear.

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



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    #2114
    FloatingVoter
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    el diablo wrote: »
    Adam Sandler's being lined up for season 3 I hear.

    Ben Stiller as partner. Jim Carrey will be playing the scary villain.


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    #2115
    Brief_Lives
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    .... and I would have gotten away with it, if it wasn´t for those pesky kids....


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    #2116
    Penn
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    Effects wrote: »
    What I didn't get was why Bezzerides stuck with Jordan Semyon, what did she have to gain from that? She had never met her before.

    Frank asked Bezzerides to meet up with her if he didn't make it. Chances are between Jordan losing Frank and Bezzerides losing Ray, they simply bonded in their grief and being in a new place not knowing anyone, simply stuck together and became friends.


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    #2117
    Halloween Jack
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    el diablo wrote: »
    Adam Sandler's being lined up for season 3 I hear.

    I always felt the genre needed more fart gags.....


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    #2118
    yayamark
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    That was an awful load of ****e and a waste of time

    Plot was over the place characters was boring only kept with it cos season one was so good

    Very disappointed


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    #2119
    loyatemu
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    just watched the finale this week (I was away when it aired) - sorry I stuck with it now, really didn't get any better. Great production values, some decent acting from Farrell and McAdams but apart from that it was a waste of time.


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    #2120
    jones
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    I really dont get the hate for this.
    I enjoyed season 2, it was no where near season 1 but its a decent show in its own right. I do think the first 4 episodes were slow and it had issues but i thought second half really picked up pace.

    A solid 7/10 for me.


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    #2121
    el diablo
    Registered Users Posts: 5,752 ✭✭✭el diablo


    Season 2 summed up in 2 minutes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz2BhtYFq7U

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



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    #2122
    NomadicGray
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    Its hilarious that people who didnt like it stayed until the end.
    Time for a new hobby lads


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    #2123
    K-9
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    NomadicGray wrote: »
    Its hilarious that people who didnt like it stayed until the end.
    Time for a new hobby lads

    Not really, it went from must see TV to watch when I've nothing else to do TV. Simple as that.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #2124
    Gwynplaine
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    Mumble mumble, light up a fag, Vince trying to be hard, mumble, another fag, fall asleep.
    What a disappointing second series.


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    #2125
    PropJoe10
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    Thought it was decent but really suffered from not having the same director across all the episodes, which made it feel disjointed. Pizzolato's writing really benefitted in season 1 from having the same director working on the whole thing, which made it feel like a long film rather than 8 separate episodes.

    Thought McAdams and Farrell were excellent, and Vaughan surprised me, he was pretty good, especially in the last episode.

    Hated the ending. Was quite depressed after it!


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    #2126
    don ramo
    Registered Users Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    Thought it was decent but really suffered from not having the same director across all the episodes, which made it feel disjointed. Pizzolato's writing really benefitted in season 1 from having the same director working on the whole thing, which made it feel like a long film rather than 8 separate episodes.
    not an excuse that can be used, every show ever made had multiple directors, and TD season 1 was by no means the best season of tv ever made, it still had problems, which were covered over by the 2 leads, but had a terrible end, which should have been an indication of what kind of a writer pizzolato really is, it looks like he had one good idea, but even at that like a lot of people he didnt know how to end it,


    we could all be series writers if we could learn how write great set-ups and great endings,


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    #2127
    PropJoe10
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    don ramo wrote: »
    not an excuse that can be used, every show ever made had multiple directors, and TD season 1 was by no means the best season of tv ever made, it still had problems, which were covered over by the 2 leads, but had a terrible end, which should have been an indication of what kind of a writer pizzolato really is, it looks like he had one good idea, but even at that like a lot of people he didnt know how to end it,


    we could all be series writers if we could learn how write great set-ups and great endings,

    I never said it was the greatest season ever, I was just saying that the first season really benefitted from having one director which created continuity. I'm not comparing it to other shows either. I thought the ending to season 1 was great - I'm not sure what people expected was going to happen, but I thought it wrapped up nicely. Each to their own, I guess.


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    #2128
    don ramo
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    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    I never said it was the greatest season ever, I was just saying that the first season really benefitted from having one director which created continuity. I'm not comparing it to other shows either. I thought the ending to season 1 was great - I'm not sure what people expected was going to happen, but I thought it wrapped up nicely. Each to their own, I guess.
    i dont get the big deal of having one director, i mean no other show does it, and they can still have great continuity over multiple season, never mind just one,

    having the one director just shows how much time they had to make season, thats why shows need multiple directors, there simply isnt enough time for one director to edit an entire seasons worth of episodes, and it really shows the leeway HBO gave them for season 1, and season 2 just showed them up,

    yeah each their own, i thought the ending of season 1 wasnt a great pay off for what was a great set-up over the first 6 episodes, and season 2 started and ended where the last 2 episode season 1 left off,


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    #2129
    The Black Oil
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    How much liberty do directors have anyway, don't they've to pretty much stick to the series bible?

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

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    #2130
    don ramo
    Registered Users Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    The Black Oil wrote: »
    How much liberty do directors have anyway, don't they've to pretty much stick to the series bible?
    well they edit what they film, their the ones who have to stitch all the stuffed filmed together so thats its coherent, as most know episodes arent filmed chronologically, it could take a week or two to film one episode, at multiple locations, that why most shows go through 8 or 9 directors over a 24 episode season,

    a bad director could ruin an entire show, if hes not told specifically whats wanted he might do something mad, and id say their watched pretty closely by the executive producers and writers,

    weve all seem plenty of shows that have been badly directed, scenes out of place, bad acting id blame on bad directors also, its partly their job to get the best out of the cast, season 1 of Gotham i thought had some bad directors, the writing team wasnt the best either, but they werent all sh1t, it ended up being a fairly ok show,

    its a lot or work to make sure its filmed right, it can mean alterations to the script also, all well and good writing something down, filming it could be completely different, and the writers and directors really need to be on the same page, and work well together,


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    #2131
    Roquentin
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    The Black Oil wrote: »
    How much liberty do directors have anyway, don't they've to pretty much stick to the series bible?

    depends how much control the director has. you often hear of producers and directors falling out because the producer wants it done one way and the director wants to do it his way.


    people can get lucky of course but generally good films are made when the director has full control of the system (Like a sports manager) so they control the script process right up to editing and even how you market the film like hitchcock would do.


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