VDSL Stats - Whats yours?

AlanS181824

peking97 wrote: »

I notice it runs a custom firmware for the tests. Do you know if they load a useful firmware when test finishes?

It runs a modded version of DDWRT I think, not 100% sure though.

They produce a monthly report at the end of the month which tells you how your line is getting on so I guess this would be considered very useful.

jca

AlanS181824 wrote: »

It runs a modded version of DDWRT I think, not 100% sure though.

They produce a monthly report at the end of the month which tells you how your line is getting on so I guess this would be considered very useful.

Mine has been dispatched. Will keep ye posted.

jantheman91

Installed about 3 weeks ago. Hoping vectoring hasn't been enabled yet, as I look forward to seeing higher speeds down the line. Overall really happy, bar a few minor hiccups.

~150m from the cabinet and Wired test.

airuser

http://technology.ie/broadband-measurement-company-samknows-launches-irish-campaign


Wonder if this would be of benefit to gathering detail for anyone. I have received and install their box this morning. Not for fibre, but for standard BB

jca

jantheman91 wrote: »

Installed about 3 weeks ago. Hoping vectoring hasn't been enabled yet, as I look forward to seeing higher speeds down the line. Overall really happy, bar a few minor hiccups.

~150m from the cabinet and Wired test.

How much speed do you want?

jantheman91

jca wrote: »

How much speed do you want?

Whatever the line is capable of - which currently stands at 100+.

airuser

You line may be capable, but one does not receive this. I believe that is a drop off of speed depending on distance from cabinet. If I am not mistaken.

jca

jantheman91 wrote: »

Whatever the line is capable of - which currently stands at 100+.

You're on the 70 profile and getting 67. I'm on the 50 profile and getting 48. I'm delighted with that. Don't take much notice of attainable speeds as mine vary hugely daily. A great service. It's only when I have to endure someone else's bad bb that I appreciate my fibre service.

jantheman91

jca wrote: »

You're on the 70 profile and getting 67. I'm on the 50 profile and getting 48. I'm delighted with that. Don't take much notice of attainable speeds as mine vary hugely daily. A great service. It's only when I have to endure someone else's bad bb that I appreciate my fibre service.

I was on 50 until yesterday, when I rang up and had them increase it to 70.

Perhaps you don't need the extra 20, but I use it to download games (40+GB in size), play First person shooters competitively, and stream video (among other things).

If I'm paying the money and a greater speed is available, I'll take it

ShodenMcClane

This is with Eircom E fibre: The speed has dropped by 20 megs in the last few weeks to this:



============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 3 days: 19 hours: 57 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 16.382 Mbps 34.813 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 16.383 Mbps 34.814 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 12.3 dB 13.6 dB
Actual Delay: 0 ms 0 ms
Transmit Power: 2.8 dBm 12.4 dBm
Receive Power: -15.4 dBm -7.2 dBm
Actual INP: 29.0 symbols 30.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 18.2 dB 19.7 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 22.873 Mbps 49.828 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 3.3 28.3 33.5 N/A 12.3 30.7 45.4
Signal Attenuation(dB): 3.3 27.5 32.8 N/A 15.6 30.7 45.4
SNR Margin(dB): 12.2 12.3 12.3 N/A 13.6 13.6 13.6
Transmit Power(dBm):-12.4 - 2.7 1.2 N/A 8.2 7.8 7.0
============================================================================

VDSL Counters

Downstream Upstream
Since Link time = 57 min 5 sec
FEC: 3240 1697
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 12 min 37 sec
FEC: 0 6
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 19 hours 57 min 37 sec
FEC: 358 183
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 661 381
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Total time = 1 days 19 hours 57 min 37 sec
FEC: 3240 1697
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 30 30
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
===========================================================================

These were my speeds a while back after getting VDSL installed:


Can anyone suggest why my speed has dropped to this? Both test's were done wired with nothing else on the network. Cheers.

OneEightSeven

jca wrote: »

You're on the 70 profile and getting 67. I'm on the 50 profile and getting 48. I'm delighted with that. Don't take much notice of attainable speeds as mine vary hugely daily. A great service. It's only when I have to endure someone else's bad bb that I appreciate my fibre service.

So, in other words, the reason why you're having a little winge is because you begrudge is stats/speeds?

If you were actually content with your speeds, you wouldn't be whining about others wanting faster speeds. Grow up.

jca

jantheman91 wrote: »

I was on 50 until yesterday, when I rang up and had them increase it to 70.

Perhaps you don't need the extra 20, but I use it to download games (40+GB in size), play First person shooters competitively, and stream video (among other things).

If I'm paying the money and a greater speed is available, I'll take it

The point I was making is not to put too much belief in what the router is telling you. Be happy with your lot. Me or my children use the Internet for all the things you do and after enduring 5 months of hell with Sky bb we're delighted to have a decent reliable service back again.

jca

OneEightSeven wrote: »

So, in other words, the reason why you're having a little winge is because you begrudge is stats/speeds?

If you were actually content with your speeds, you wouldn't be whining about others wanting faster speeds. Grow up.

What's your problem??? Nowhere in my post did I say I wasn't content with my speeds quite the opposite in fact. To be getting almost the full of my given profile is fine by me.

OneEightSeven

jca wrote: »

What's your problem??? Nowhere in my post did I say I wasn't content with my speeds quite the opposite in fact. To be getting almost the full of my given profile is fine by me.

Then why are you comparing your speeds to his? Are your jealous of him or something? What's all the fuss about?

jca

OneEightSeven wrote: »

Then why are you comparing your speeds to his? Are your jealous of him or something? What's all the fuss about?

Please stop...... Thanks..

OneEightSeven

jca wrote: »

Please stop...... Thanks..

Stop what? You're the one making a big song and dance just someone with faster speeds than yours wanting even more.

I suggest familiarizing yourself with the lesser evil fallacy because you will help you realise the stupidity of your posts.

jca

jantheman91 wrote: »

I was on 50 until yesterday, when I rang up and had them increase it to 70.

Perhaps you don't need the extra 20, but I use it to download games (40+GB in size), play First person shooters competitively, and stream video (among other things).

If I'm paying the money and a greater speed is available, I'll take it

I think they've given you all they have to give at this stage:D My attainable speeds are all over the shop these last few weeks going from a heady 101 down to as low as 42 when I'm getting 47-48 consistently. As long as it stays consistent I'm a happy camper, anything is better than the 0.3meg I had to endure from 7 to 11 each evening with sky BB. I tried to squeeze an extra drop from an Eircom rep but he wouldn't budge me from the 50 profile. He told me to call later in the year, presumably when vectoring is enabled on my cabinet.

jca

AlanS181824 wrote: »

It runs a modded version of DDWRT I think, not 100% sure though.

They produce a monthly report at the end of the month which tells you how your line is getting on so I guess this would be considered very useful.

I got my box this morning but the light on the right (two circular arrows) just keeps flashing at either a slow speed or a fast speed. With the desktop connected to the white box I don't have an internet connection either:mad:. Not impressed...

AlanS181824

jca wrote: »

I got my box this morning but the light on the right (two circular arrows) just keeps flashing at either a slow speed or a fast speed. With the desktop connected to the white box I don't have an internet connection either:mad:. Not impressed...

Kind of sounds like a DNS issue or maybe even an IP one.

Make sure there's an Ethernet cable going from your router to the WAN port of the Whitebox then connect your computers to the white box.

Also try resolve the issue with the Windows?

jca

AlanS181824 wrote: »

Kind of sounds like a DNS issue or maybe even an IP one.

Make sure there's an Ethernet cable going from your router to the WAN port of the Whitebox then connect your computers to the white box.

Also try resolve the issue with the Windows?

It seems to be a dns issue as the av auto updated but page not displayed is on the browser. Windows diagnostic says dns couldn't be resolved. When the desktop is connected directly to the Eircom router everything is perfect. Atm the Whitebox is turned on and connected to the Eircom router as per the instructions but the 2 circle light continues to flash. I have the desktop connected to the Eircom router.

jimmad

turn it on and off, same thing happened to me when I first plugged it in, rebooting it worked

jca

jimmad wrote: »

turn it on and off, same thing happened to me when I first plugged it in, rebooting it worked

I've tried rebooting it several times but that bloody light just keeps flashing and flashing. I can't see it on the network at all, it looks like the Eircom router isn't giving it an IP, most annoying. The router is bog standard i.e. All the settings are unchanged bar I turned off the firewall.

jimmad

hard reset maybe?

jca

jimmad wrote: »

hard reset maybe?

Yea I think I'll turn it off, connect everything as it should be and do a hard reset. Will keep everyone posted.

jca

jimmad wrote: »

hard reset maybe?

Nothing seems to happen when I press the hard reset button I held it down for ages, no sign of it resetting. No internet with it in the network and that damn light keeps flashing and flashing....:mad::mad:

jca

Is anyone finding it difficult to log in to their Eircom router? I find mine very hit and miss (mostly miss) the page greys out and the arrow just keeps spinning. I get best results using IE. My stats are in steady decline, download speeds have dropped from 48 to 40 my snr was 18 is now down to barely over 8, attainable rate has fallen from 87 to 44 very worrying.

AlanS181824

jca wrote: »

Is anyone finding it difficult to log in to their Eircom router? I find mine very hit and miss (mostly miss) the page greys out and the arrow just keeps spinning. I get best results using IE. My stats are in steady decline, download speeds have dropped from 48 to 40 my snr was 18 is now down to barely over 8, attainable rate has fallen from 87 to 44 very worrying.

That would worry me if I were you, I checked my own stats and I am thankfully still on 100/20.

Why not give Eircom a ring and see what's going on?

jca

AlanS181824 wrote: »

That would worry me if I were you, I checked my own stats and I am thankfully still on 100/20.

Why not give Eircom a ring and see what's going on?

Eircom support are terrible, all they seem to understand is if I have a connection or not. Their attitude is, ah shur you have a connection whats your problem? Do you want eVision? Blah blah blah.

jantheman91

jca wrote: »

Eircom support are terrible, all they seem to understand is if I have a connection or not. Their attitude is, ah shur you have a connection whats your problem? Do you want eVision? Blah blah blah.

I agree that they are useless, but if you pester them they eventually sort it.

I had to ring them up 4 times in relation to a problem I had before they fixed it.

They do get things done, but unfortunately it's at their own leisure.

jca

jantheman91 wrote: »

I agree that they are useless, but if you pester them they eventually sort it.

I had to ring them up 4 times in relation to a problem I had before they fixed it.

They do get things done, but unfortunately it's at their own leisure.

1) If I could get one that I could understand it would help enormously.
2 ) An agent who actually understood the router stats and stopped treating me like an idiot would also help.
It's a wonder they didn't try to tell me my house was moving away from the cabinet!!

dazdrog

after two months of waiting and absolute bollox from vodafone, from putting in a new line when one wasnt needed, to fudging up the original order for fiber and giving me adsl2+ (max speed 12mb) ive finally got fiber. anyone able tell me how to get my max rate?

Line standard VDSL2

Channel type

None
Downstream line rate (kbit/s)50176
Upstream line rate (kbit/s)15360
Downstream SNR (dB) 13.6
Upstream SNR (dB) 14.3
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 14.2
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 4.9
Downstream output power (dBmV) 12.5
Upstream output power (dBmV) 1.7
Downstream CRC 0
Upstream CRC 0
Downstream FEC 105
Upstream FEC 0

dazdrog

dazdrog wrote: »

after two months of waiting and absolute bollox from vodafone, from putting in a new line when one wasnt needed, to fudging up the original order for fiber and giving me adsl2+ (max speed 12mb) ive finally got fiber. anyone able tell me how to get my max rate?

got it sorted, will be ringing them tomorrow to get a bump up

Line standard VDSL2

Channel type

None
Downstream line rate (kbit/s)50176
Upstream line rate (kbit/s)15360
Downstream attainable data rate(kbit/s) 65992
Upstream attainable data rate(kbit/s) 24093
Downstream SNR (dB) 14.6
Upstream SNR (dB) 14.5
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 14.2
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 4.9
Downstream output power (dBmV) 12.5
Upstream output power (dBmV) 1.7
Downstream CRC 0
Upstream CRC 0
Downstream FEC 1569
Upstream FEC 0

jantheman91

What sort of Noise margin and line attenuation values are considered great (after vectoring has been considered)?

Thanks.

dazdrog

jantheman91 wrote: »

What sort of Noise margin and line attenuation values are considered great (after vectoring has been considered)?

Thanks.

generally the higher the better on the downstream = the more speed you should be able to get, with my snr sitting at 14.6 im hoping to get a boost to a 60/20 profile from my current 50/15

well fingers crossed i can, before vectoring i was with magnet and on a 50/20 profile with a snr as low as 6.0 and the line was fully stable giving me between 45-48mb download and 18-19mb upload

jca

With snr the higher the better, attenuation the lower the better.

peking97

Here's an interesting situation from my (modified) stats page the downstream rate is actually higher than the attainable rate! Any of you guys ever see that before? Seems strange to me.

jca

peking97 wrote: »

Here's an interesting situation from my (modified) stats page the downstream rate is actually higher than the attainable rate! Any of you guys ever see that before? Seems strange to me.

Yep I had that for a while too. I just don't bother looking at the stats anymore. The router is so slow to do anything I've given up trying to access it.

ED E

peking97 wrote: »

Here's an interesting situation from my (modified) stats page the downstream rate is actually higher than the attainable rate! Any of you guys ever see that before? Seems strange to me.

That's actually normal behavior with noise fluctuations, as long as its not disconnecting its fine

smemon

I've rang Vodafone a couple of times now asking if there's any reason why Speedtest results would be so low compared to sync speed and attainable rate...

I'm no more than 300m from the cab... should I be happy with in or around 55mb or should I be expecting more?

Previously i was on a 50/20 and getting ~47mb according to speedtest... they moved me to a rate adaptive profile so i assumed i'd get in or around the max rate again on that but it appears not to be the case...

And for the record I've never seen speedtest results above 60mb... usually they're in or around 50mb...

crawler

Are you using Wifi? Dpeendiong on the wifi card you have, it coul dbe simply a wifi limitation.

I'd connect a laptop with a cable and retest



I've rang Vodafone a couple of times now asking if there's any reason why Speedtest results would be so low compared to sync speed and attainable rate...

I'm no more than 300m from the cab... should I be happy with in or around 55mb or should I be expecting more?

Previously i was on a 50/20 and getting ~47mb according to speedtest... they moved me to a rate adaptive profile so i assumed i'd get in or around the max rate again on that but it appears not to be the case...

And for the record I've never seen speedtest results above 60mb... usually they're in or around 50mb...[/QUOTE]

jca

AlanS181824 wrote: »

Kind of sounds like a DNS issue or maybe even an IP one.

Make sure there's an Ethernet cable going from your router to the WAN port of the Whitebox then connect your computers to the white box.

Also try resolve the issue with the Windows?

I got it working:D. I got a free trial of eVision installed today but the poor installer couldn't get it to work for the life of him:( until, in an act of desperation he tried a new router and away it went:pac:. When he almost ran from the house I tried the whitebox and it connected straight away. Just got my automated email a minute ago. I never saw a Man as happy to leave a premises in my life, fair play he stuck it out until he got it sorted. The connection seems a lot faster too.

AlanS181824

jca wrote: »

I got it working:D. I got a free trial of eVision installed today but the poor installer couldn't get it to work for the life of him:( until, in an act of desperation he tried a new router and away it went:pac:. When he almost ran from the house I tried the whitebox and it connected straight away. Just got my automated email a minute ago. I never saw a Man as happy to leave a premises in my life, fair play he stuck it out until he got it sorted. The connection seems a lot faster too.

Great news! Thanks for the update!
Seen a load of KN Networks around Carlow today, so a lot more people are getting connected.
I'd love to try eVision but I sync at 100 and don't really want to lose that, plus I'm on Vodafone so... :P

jantheman91

Anyone hazard a guess as to why my SNR is decreasing, and my attenuation increasing?

SNR has dropped 4+ and attenuation increased by same.

jca

AlanS181824 wrote: »

Great news! Thanks for the update!
Seen a load of KN Networks around Carlow today, so a lot more people are getting connected.
I'd love to try eVision but I sync at 100 and don't really want to lose that, plus I'm on Vodafone so... :P

They took a good bit off my speed too from 50/20 to 34/20 but to be perfectly honest I can't say I've noticed. Since the new router was installed the connection seems to be getting quicker and quicker, only by accessing the router stats would I know that anything has changed. The eVision is very good and is performing faultlessly.

AlanS181824

jca wrote: »

They took a good bit off my speed too from 50/20 to 34/20 but to be perfectly honest I can't say I've noticed. Since the new router was installed the connection seems to be getting quicker and quicker, only by accessing the router stats would I know that anything has changed. The eVision is very good and is performing faultlessly.

That's great news, definitely.

I wouldn't get eVision as my main TV service but I wouldn't consider getting it as a SaorView replacement.

Shame I've another 17 months left with Vodafone :P

How's the SamKnows box doing btw?

AlanS181824

My downstream SNR has rose from 13.9 to 15.1.

Should I be worried?

ED E

AlanS181824 wrote: »

My downstream SNR has rose from 13.9 to 15.1.

Should I be worried?

Thats a GOOD thing. Once its above 9 you're doing just grand.

AlanS181824

ED E wrote: »

Thats a GOOD thing. Once its above 9 you're doing just grand.

Is it? You sure?

jantheman91

AlanS181824 wrote: »

Is it? You sure?

Higher the SNR, the better.

Mine is dropping, and the attenuation increasing for reasons I don't know...

I'm only 150m from the cab too. Frustrating....

AlanS181824

jantheman91 wrote: »

Higher the SNR, the better.

Mine is dropping, and the attenuation increasing for reasons I don't know...

I'm only 150m from the cab too. Frustrating....

My modem hasn't rebooted yet but the SNR changed?

I know it won't effect my 100/20 speed but maybe I should reboot it and see do the attainable change?