VDSL Stats - Whats yours?

AlanS181824

airuser wrote: »

I am still on NGB. Have been following this tread with interest. A couple of questions.

Can EIRCOM dictate the speeds provided to others?

Or

Are non Eircom providers unable to provide speeds which they advertise?

According to a recent article I believe published by "Silicon Republic", ISP on average only supply about 75/80 % of the published speeds.

Please forgive me if I am on the wrong forum for these question

Technically speaking they can't, they would get into serious trouble with ComReg and the EU if they did.

But strangely enough if you compare Eircom 100/20 with Vodafone 100/20 the downloads might be genuinely the same but for some reason Eircom always seems to have a higher upload.

Now this is just what I've noticed but can maybe a few people with Vodafone/Eircom 100/20 help me?

Do a speed test wired on the Carlow server and the Dublin server hosted by Vodafone if possible.

Be great to see and compare them.

airuser

Thought that . But, when I compare speeds with friends. There always appears to be better on one side or the other with the said provider.

thanks for that

AlanS181824

Modem has been on for 41 days straight now.

I'm wondering does that effect speed in any way?

Are you supposed to leave it on 24/7 or would it be advised to reboot every now and then?

jca

AlanS181824 wrote: »

Modem has been on for 41 days straight now.

I'm wondering does that effect speed in any way?

Are you supposed to leave it on 24/7 or would it be advised to reboot every now and then?

I never turn mine off. I have it on a ups along with the desktop.

ED E

AlanS181824 wrote: »

Modem has been on for 41 days straight now.

I'm wondering does that effect speed in any way?

Are you supposed to leave it on 24/7 or would it be advised to reboot every now and then?

No need to reboot em. A good router wont memory leak and essentially dont care how long theyve been up.

AlanS181824

ED E wrote: »

No need to reboot em. A good router wont memory leak and essentially dont care how long theyve been up.

jca wrote: »

I never turn mine off. I have it on a ups along with the desktop.

Oh that's really good to know.

Thanks to the both of ye.

It doesn't get hot or anything, just does its magic and makes the interwebs! :P

Sully

Vodafone - just installed - about 300 meters or so from the cabinet.

Connection Status
Help
DSL synchronization status Up
DSL up time 00:25:45

Line Status
Help
Line standard VDSL2
Channel type
None
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 92156
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 20478
Downstream SNR (dB) 16.7
Upstream SNR (dB) 12.9
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 9.7
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 2.9
Downstream output power (dBmV) 12.7
Upstream output power (dBmV) -11.5
Downstream CRC 0
Upstream CRC 0
Downstream FEC 1355611
Upstream FEC 1



WiFi Speed Test (i'm right beside the modem); 45.90 / 18.77 Ping 23ms

Cork981

Here are my stats compared if I connect the modem at my main socket my the door vs upstairs in the ideal location.

Is it worth moving it down the stairs as you can see there is a slight increase in line stats.

Note: im on a 50mb package at the moment but moving to a rate adaptive.

upstairs
upstream	Downstream
15.359 Mbps	50.175 Mbps
15.360 Mbps	50.176 Mbps
ON	ON
11.3 dB	11.7 dB
0 ms	0 ms
4.3 dBm	13.8 dBm
-16.9 dBm	-8.9 dBm
30.0 symbols	30.0 symbols
21.1 dB	22.7 dB
19.627 Mbps	58.528 Mbps

main door	
upstream         	downtream
15.359 Mbps	50.175 Mbps
15.360 Mbps	50.176 Mbps
ON	ON
11.5 dB	12.9 dB
0 ms	0 ms
1.9 dBm	13.8 dBm
-17.8 dBm	-7.8 dBm
30.0 symbols	30.0 symbols
19.7 dB	21.7 dB
19.912 Mbps	62.311 Mbps

ED E

For less than 4mb I wouldn't, unless it becomes unstable.

Cork981

ED E wrote: »

For less than 4mb I wouldn't, unless it becomes unstable.

ya didnt think it was worth it.

Might compare again once vectoring is enabled. At the moment all I have is INP enabled which brought my ping down to <10ms but dragged my attainable down from 75Mb to 59Mb.

iMrApex

Cork981 wrote: »

ya didnt think it was worth it.

Might compare again once vectoring is enabled. At the moment all I have is INP enabled which brought my ping down to <10ms but dragged my attainable down from 75Mb to 59Mb.

How do you enable INP?

ED E

iMrApex wrote: »

How do you enable INP?

You dont, eircom wholesale do.

byte

Here are my current stats:

Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 40960
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 10240
Downstream SNR (dB) 16.3
Upstream SNR (dB) 17.7
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 17.3
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 6.4

Not sure if there is room for me to push to move from my current 40/10 profile, I asked some weeks ago, and was told to call again in a month.

ED E

Theres's loads. 10db is fine, you're at 16, that means you x4 stronger than the recommended minimum. Get them to set you to 50Mb.

byte

ED E wrote: »

Theres's loads. 10db is fine, you're at 16, that means you x4 stronger than the recommended minimum. Get them to set you to 50Mb.

Will try for the craic. I'd be more interested in higher upload speeds than the download speeds.

ED E

byte wrote: »

Will try for the craic. I'd be more interested in higher upload speeds than the download speeds.

Have you got TV from eircom?

Either way 50/15 or 50/16 will most likely work. So a good few megs extra up.

byte

ED E wrote: »

Have you got TV from eircom?

Either way 50/15 or 50/16 will most likely work. So a good few megs extra up.

Nah, no Eircom TV services. All internet.

I'll call them and see what they say if I get a chance tomorrow.

foggy_lad

Here are my latest stats for my wired connection on 100/20 with Vodafone and located less than 250m from cabinet.

Vodafone tell me the reason I can't get the full 20Mbps upload is due to reflection from the cabinet because I am so close:(

ED E

foggy_lad wrote: »

Vodafone tell me the reason I can't get the full 20Mbps upload is due to reflection from the cabinet because I am so close:(

Your stats are good and that sounds like bull. Id lean towards an intermittent fault with the drop lowering your sync speed.

foggy_lad

ED E wrote: »

Your stats are good and that sounds like bull. Id lean towards an intermittent fault with the drop lowering your sync speed.

I'm really caught between a rock and a hard place as Vodafone's only response is to send out the Eircom technicians yet again who have stated to me that if they are called out again they will be charging ME upwards of €400.

AlanS181824

foggy_lad wrote: »

I'm really caught between a rock and a hard place as Vodafone's only response is to send out the Eircom technicians yet again who have stated to me that if they are called out again they will be charging ME upwards of €400.

I don't think they've any right to do this as they are paid by Vodafone through Eircom for the call out charge.

If I was a KN Engineer and I was called out to a job where everything was working perfect I would be more than happy to visit! :pac:

I think you may have just gotten a hormonal technician!

OneEightSeven

I'm about 350m from the cabinet and vectoring hasn't been enabled yet.

My reasonably good upload attainables suggests there's a fault on my line because the download should be higher.

ED E

Its that Days/Hours/Mins or Hours/Mins/Secs ? if the latter then the FEC rate is a bit high for 30 mins, have it checked out.

dalta5billion

OneEightSeven wrote: »

I'm about 350m from the cabinet and vectoring hasn't been enabled yet.

My reasonably good upload attainables suggests there's a fault on my line because the download should be higher.

Ton of FEC errors there.

OneEightSeven

dalta5billion wrote: »

Ton of FEC errors there.

I should have rebooted the router. I didn't notice it had been on for 8 days straight before I took that screenshot. Attainable upload improved so I know my line isn't too long.

Kevin!

Would my profile be a candidate for an upgrade?



seem to have a very disproportionate upload vs download

AlanS181824

I hate my neighbours!

More and more of them are ditching UPC for Eircom/Vodafone and I see my attainables fall bit by bit each time...

.....:pac:

ED E

Kevin! wrote: »

Would my profile be a candidate for an upgrade?



seem to have a very disproportionate upload vs download

Would manage 60/20

Cork981

Just had vectoring go live on my cabinet last night.

Attainables have jumped from 55 to 79 with a SNR bump from 11 to 18.

Just need to get connected to the right port on the cabinet now so I can actually authenticate and use my internet.

domeld

It looks like system level vectoring has been enabled. My cab is enabled as well. SNR went up from 18.6 to 29.8, but profile on eircom gateway has not been updated yet.

swoofer

cork981, how can you tell cab has gone live?? i am tearing hair out as i have been told " cab has been enabled but it may not have been switched on yet!! this was a month ago. I am in ennis, did you have to reboot router? and how can you get the right port??

I assume you are in CORK!!

domeld, where are you??

All I have is very low pings ie 10ms, its even 1ms to enniskillen! speed stayed the same, ie 38mb and at 800m from cab. I am expecting near 50 so that speed test speedometer gets close to RED!!

SpaceTime

I must re-test mine later on.

Cork981

swoofer wrote: »

cork981, how can you tell cab has gone live?? i am tearing hair out as i have been told " cab has been enabled but it may not have been switched on yet!! this was a month ago. I am in ennis, did you have to reboot router? and how can you get the right port??

I assume you are in CORK!!

domeld, where are you??

All I have is very low pings ie 10ms, its even 1ms to enniskillen! speed stayed the same, ie 38mb and at 800m from cab. I am expecting near 50 so that speed test speedometer gets close to RED!!

Modem lost sync for a few minutes during the night and came back up with a higher SNR and higher attainables.

I was in the same position as you I only had INP enabled for the last few months which gave a very low ping but low attainables.

K&N will have to come out and swap my line to a new port.

Apparently they came out today and coudnt find the port and just left.

I've also noticed it takes a lot longer to sync now that vectoring is enabled.

domeld

@swoofer im in Gorey

Nonoperational

No vectoring here yet. Hopefully soon.

dalta5billion

I'm 400 to 500m from the cab, installed today, cabinet in place since February but only live since 30th July.

					
============================================================================
    VDSL Training Status:   Showtime
                    Mode:   VDSL2 Annex B
            VDSL Profile:   Profile 17a
            Traffic Type:   PTM Mode
             Link Uptime:   0 day: 5 hours: 20 minutes
============================================================================
       VDSL Port Details       Upstream         Downstream
               Line Rate:     20.477 Mbps       71.678 Mbps
    Actual Net Data Rate:     20.478 Mbps       71.679 Mbps
          Trellis Coding:         ON                ON
              SNR Margin:       13.7 dB           12.9 dB
            Actual Delay:          0 ms              0 ms
          Transmit Power:      - 1.6 dBm          14.0 dBm
           Receive Power:      -19.4 dBm          -5.4 dBm
              Actual INP:       29.0 symbols      30.0 symbols
       Total Attenuation:       17.7 dB           19.4 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate:     29.056 Mbps       87.284 Mbps
============================================================================
      VDSL Band Status    U0      U1      U2      U3      D1      D2      D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):  4.3    24.1    34.1     N/A    12.9    30.5    45.9   
Signal Attenuation(dB):  4.3    23.7    33.0     N/A    16.9    30.3    45.9   
        SNR Margin(dB): 13.8    13.8    13.7     N/A    12.8    12.8    12.9   
   Transmit Power(dBm):-15.6   - 6.2   - 3.8     N/A    11.4     8.0     7.0   
============================================================================

Speedtest over WiFi.

Praetorian

So I've also just noticed a massive jump in my stats! Looking good I hope for full 100m/bit!

DSL synchronization status Up
DSL up time 12:50:48

Line Status
Help
Line standard VDSL2
Channel type
None
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 71679
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 20478
Downstream attainable data rate(kbit/s) 125808
Upstream attainable data rate(kbit/s) 26238
Downstream SNR (dB) 25.4
Upstream SNR (dB) 12.2
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 6.1
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 1.8
Downstream output power (dBmV) 12.4
Upstream output power (dBmV) -19.4

ED E

Praetorian wrote: »

So I've also just noticed a massive jump in my stats! Looking good I hope for full 100m/bit!

DSL synchronization status Up
DSL up time 12:50:48

Line Status
Help
Line standard VDSL2
Channel type
None
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 71679
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 20478
Downstream attainable data rate(kbit/s) 125808
Upstream attainable data rate(kbit/s) 26238
Downstream SNR (dB) 25.4
Upstream SNR (dB) 12.2
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 6.1
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 1.8
Downstream output power (dBmV) 12.4
Upstream output power (dBmV) -19.4

Swissssh! Nice line. What's you distance do you think?

Praetorian

Ed e,

it's very hard to know what way my line runs but it could be 140-160 meters,

bjp1967

Line standard VDSL2
Channel type
None
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 81918
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 20478
Downstream SNR (dB) 12.9
Upstream SNR (dB) 19.1
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 11.7
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 3.6
Downstream output power (dBmV) 13.7
Upstream output power (dBmV) 2
Downstream CRC 4
Upstream CRC 0
Downstream FEC 3095
Upstream FEC 233


http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3677033902


Speed Test over Wifi, should I be getting better download speed compared to upload speeds

ED E

Its not too unusual, transmitter in the laptop is a little less efficient.

foggy_lad

My poor upload speeds appear to have been sorted out by Vodafone,


This is a wireless test but shows the upload has increased from less than 12mbps to almost 19mbps:)

AlanS181824

foggy_lad wrote: »

My poor upload speeds appear to have been sorted out by Vodafone,


This is a wireless test but shows the upload has increased from less than 12mbps to almost 19mbps:)

Great news!

Glad to see you've finally been sorted.

foggy_lad

AlanS181824 wrote: »

Great news!

Glad to see you've finally been sorted.

Not quite there yet, Still disconnects several times a day.

Kevin!

Kevin! wrote: »

Would my profile be a candidate for an upgrade?

http://i62.tinypic.com/5lz9tx.png

seem to have a very disproportionate upload vs download

Vectoring has just been enabled a week later, Vodafone unable to select a higher profile as of yet - the lad on the phone reckoned that they're systems are updated on the first tuesday of every month (?)

HellboundIRL

============================================================================
    VDSL Training Status:   Showtime
                    Mode:   VDSL2 Annex B
            VDSL Profile:   Profile 17a
            Traffic Type:   PTM Mode
             Link Uptime:   0 day: 0 hour: 3 minutes
============================================================================
       VDSL Port Details       Upstream         Downstream
               Line Rate:     20.477 Mbps      102.395 Mbps
    Actual Net Data Rate:     20.478 Mbps      102.396 Mbps
          Trellis Coding:         ON                ON
              SNR Margin:       12.0 dB           14.7 dB
            Actual Delay:          0 ms              0 ms
          Transmit Power:      -15.7 dBm          13.3 dBm
           Receive Power:      -25.5 dBm           2.8 dBm
              Actual INP:       29.0 symbols      29.0 symbols
       Total Attenuation:        9.8 dB           10.4 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate:     26.230 Mbps      120.840 Mbps
============================================================================
      VDSL Band Status    U0      U1      U2      U3      D1      D2      D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):  2.2    11.9    17.1     N/A     7.6    16.8    25.6   
Signal Attenuation(dB):  2.2    11.4    15.8     N/A     7.6    16.7    25.6   
        SNR Margin(dB): 12.2    12.2    12.0     N/A    14.2    14.2    14.1   
   Transmit Power(dBm):-26.7   -17.5   -21.6     N/A    10.1     7.8     7.0   
============================================================================

Vectoring was enabled on Friday morning, chanced my arm and logged into Eircom webchat tonight to ask if the profile could be raised annnnnd....success!

Praetorian

I just called Vodafone and they sorted the upgrade to 100 for me also! Happy times!

Line standard VDSL2
Channel type
None
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 102396
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 20478
Downstream attainable data rate(kbit/s) 122268
Upstream attainable data rate(kbit/s) 26261
Downstream SNR (dB) 15
Upstream SNR (dB) 12
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 6.1
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 1.8
Downstream output power (dBmV) 12.5
Upstream output power (dBmV) -19.4
Downstream CRC 188
Upstream CRC 0
Downstream FEC 4961
Upstream FEC 5165

Last Result: Vodafone speed test
Download Speed: 94896 kbps (11862 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 18787 kbps (2348.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 6 ms
Jitter: 3 ms
12 August 2014 18:15:08

Cork981

These are my stats now after vectoring, hoping to get put on a 80/20 profile.

Think thats possible with a max attainable of 76 ? how accurate is that max attainable value ?

Line standard	VDSL2
Channel type
None 
Downstream line rate (kbit/s)	51197
Upstream line rate (kbit/s)	20480
Downstream attainable data rate(kbit/s)	76448
Upstream attainable data rate(kbit/s)	20879
Downstream SNR (dB) 	17.4
Upstream SNR (dB) 	8.9
Downstream line attenuation (dB)	15
Upstream line attenuation (dB)	5.6
Downstream output power (dBmV)	13.5
Upstream output power (dBmV)	4.2
Downstream CRC	0
Upstream CRC	0
Downstream FEC	0
Upstream FEC	0

ED E

There's a good chance you'll be unstable at 80, prequal will probably only allow 70 too.

Dcully

efibre installed a couple of weeks now, rock solid performance that im very happy with but people connected to other cabs in the town are getting 95mb dload,im about 100 m from our cab and nothing has changed.
Is there a set time per month for a prequal?
How do i find out if vectoring is enabled on our cab?

Stats i believe are very good?

VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.477 Mbps 71.678 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.478 Mbps 71.679 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 13.6 dB 17.9 dB
Actual Delay: 0 ms 0 ms
Transmit Power: -10.6 dBm 13.2 dBm
Receive Power: -23.9 dBm 0.6 dBm
Actual INP: 29.0 symbols 30.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 13.3 dB 12.5 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 28.694 Mbps 103.168 Mbps