Canada vs Ireland, 12:40, TG4

trouttrout

Teams:

Canada team:

15. James Pritchard (Bedford Blues)
14. Matt Evans (Cornish Pirates)
13. Ciaran Hearn (Castaway Wanderers/Atlantic Rock)
12. Harry Jones (Capilano/BC Bears)
11. Taylor Paris (SU Agen Lot-et-Garonne)
10. Nathan Hirayama (UVIC Vikes/BC Bears)
9. Phil Mack (UVIC Vikes/BC Bears)
1. Hubert Buydens (Saskatoon Wild Oats/Prairie Wolf Pack)
2. Ray Barkwill (Niagara Wasps/Ontario Blues)
3. Jason Marshall (Atlantique Stade Rochelais/BC Bears)
4. Jebb Sinclair (London Irish)
5. Tyler Hotson (London Scottish)
6. Tyler Ardron (James Bay AA/Ontario Blues)
7. John Moonlight (James Bay AA/Ontario Blues)
8. Aaron Carpenter (Cornish Pirates) (capt)

Replacements:
16. Ryan Hamilton (Capilano/BC Bears)
17. Andrew Tiedemann (Castaway Wanderers/Prairie Wolf Pack)
18. Doug Wooldridge (Lindsay/Ontario Blues)
19. Jon Phelan (Ste-Anne-de-Bellevue/Atlantic Rock)
20. Nanyak Dala (Castaway Wanderers/Prairie Wolf Pack)
21. Sean White (James Bay AA/BC Bears)
22. Nick Blevins (Calgary Hornets/Prairie Wolf Pack)
23. Connor Braid (Doncaster Knights/BC Bears


IRELAND: F Jones; F McFadden, D Cave, J Downey, A Trimble; I Madigan, I Boss; T Court, R Strauss, M Ross; D Tuohy, D Toner; K McLaughlin, T O’Donnell, P O’Mahony (capt). Replacements: S Cronin, D Kilcoyne, D Fitzpatrick, M McCarthy, C Henry, P Marshall, P Jackson, R Henshaw.

Prediction: Ireland by 15, hopefully more than 10 minutes of actual rugby too

irishbucsfan

Available on tg4?

I mean internationally. Sorry I've been working long hours!

Skid X

I think it's a 1am start, TG4 coverage starts at 12.40.

trouttrout

1. Hubert Buydens (Saskatoon Wild Oats/Prairie Wolf Pack), Ross's opposite number, jesus christ the mind boggles as to why Hagan wasn't given a start

CatFromHue

I'd say it's more to give some experience to the pack, that second row is fairly inexperienced for example so won't learn much if you field a full pack of inexperienced players.

Tuohy and Toner will learn much more with having Ross and Strauss in there.

Also interesting that Toner and Tuohy start with McCarthy on the bench.

Chabals Beard

Sherry can feel hard done by IMO.. 10 mins vs America then dropped is unfair

trouttrout

Chabals Beard wrote: »

Sherry can feel hard done by IMO.. 10 mins vs America then dropped is unfair

Considering the mare Strauss had with his darts I'd more or less assumed he would start this. Really unfair to have him out of the 23

Tox56

trouttrout wrote: »

Considering the mare Strauss had with his darts I'd more or less assumed he would start this. Really unfair to have him out of the 23

Cronin got fcuked over the same way the whole 6 Nations in an identical situation with Best, he deserved a run at some point. Strauss is blessed, can't understand why they've kept him (I'm perplexed with most these selections tbh), my only guess is that they know it will be either him or Best starting for the next few internationals and they want to give him as much time as possible in the set-up (he only has 3 caps to date)

Losty Dublin

Should be an interesting game, if not a technically good one. Canada were streets ahead of Tonga last week for 60 minutes and at stage had a 2 man advantage only to collapse like the twin towers towards the end. While I don't expect them to be in any position of advantage over Ireland this week it will still be worth seeing if they have the wherewithall to make the 80 without a similar retreat.

Our team were poor last week against a technically useful and gallant US Eagles and although this should give some hope to Canada (they are a better outfit) we have too much on field to win this with ease. The main elements of attack will come from their wingers who are very fast in the attack; their pack are less physical yet more efficient at the breakdown so they should see some clean ball if our pack aren't quick to snuff them out and the ref doesn't ruin it again. We hadn't a lot of cohesion but this should be better tonight.

My prediction is 37-19 win to us.

Grimebox

If we play like we did against USA, Canada will win a scalp

Tim Robbins

trouttrout wrote: »

Teams:

Canada team:

15. James Pritchard (Bedford Blues)
14. Matt Evans (Cornish Pirates)
13. Ciaran Hearn (Castaway Wanderers/Atlantic Rock)
12. Harry Jones (Capilano/BC Bears)
11. Taylor Paris (SU Agen Lot-et-Garonne)
10. Nathan Hirayama (UVIC Vikes/BC Bears)
9. Phil Mack (UVIC Vikes/BC Bears)
1. Hubert Buydens (Saskatoon Wild Oats/Prairie Wolf Pack)
2. Ray Barkwill (Niagara Wasps/Ontario Blues)
3. Jason Marshall (Atlantique Stade Rochelais/BC Bears)
4. Jebb Sinclair (London Irish)
5. Tyler Hotson (London Scottish)
6. Tyler Ardron (James Bay AA/Ontario Blues)
7. John Moonlight (James Bay AA/Ontario Blues)
8. Aaron Carpenter (Cornish Pirates) (capt)

Replacements:
16. Ryan Hamilton (Capilano/BC Bears)
17. Andrew Tiedemann (Castaway Wanderers/Prairie Wolf Pack)
18. Doug Wooldridge (Lindsay/Ontario Blues)
19. Jon Phelan (Ste-Anne-de-Bellevue/Atlantic Rock)
20. Nanyak Dala (Castaway Wanderers/Prairie Wolf Pack)
21. Sean White (James Bay AA/BC Bears)
22. Nick Blevins (Calgary Hornets/Prairie Wolf Pack)
23. Connor Braid (Doncaster Knights/BC Bears


IRELAND: F Jones; F McFadden, D Cave, J Downey, A Trimble; I Madigan, I Boss; T Court, R Strauss, M Ross; D Tuohy, D Toner; K McLaughlin, T O’Donnell, P O’Mahony (capt). Replacements: S Cronin, D Kilcoyne, D Fitzpatrick, M McCarthy, C Henry, P Marshall, P Jackson, R Henshaw.

Prediction: Ireland by 15, hopefully more than 10 minutes of actual rugby too

Ireland against an AIL team with a few of their players on the fringes of one the provinces.

Should be Ireland by 40; but will be Ireland 10.

Robbo

Disappointed that Marmion hasn't got a look in.

Grimebox

I am disgusted to by Schmidt's blatant Leinster bias






































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ed7890

Chabals Beard wrote: »

Sherry can feel hard done by IMO.. 10 mins vs America then dropped is unfair

Ya, really thought he deserved a shot, he's a good player. Harsh on him, this is his third tour with Ireland and he's only got those 10 minutes last week to show for it.

Beery Eyed

Tim Robbins wrote: »

Ireland against an AIL team with a few of their players on the fringes of one the provinces.

Should be Ireland by 40; but will be Ireland 10.

It would be a very ill-informed underestimation of Canada's level to compare them to an AIL team. The fact that they have beaten USA, Fiji & Tonga in the last few weeks should be enough of an indication of their merits at international level.

Many of their players are not well recognized at the moment, but they have a very strong group of players both in 15's & 7's. Ireland should win this game of course, but it will be a tough encounter and we shouldn't be so foolish or condescending as to believe it will be a walkover against an AIL standard team.

Buer

Balls. I thought this was on earlier. I guess I'll be partaking in The Drunken Thread Part 2 (all be it as a sober contributor).

Should be a decent game. Canada play more rugby than the USA. They're a good side and will be well drilled and will have their basics much sharper than the Eagles. To put things in context, Canada beat Tonga last week who, in turn, disposed of the USA today 18-9.

lurtz

Jack Fitzpatrick,former leinster 20s and irish schools fullback is over on standby for the canada squad. heavily tipped to be capped by them soon

thebaz

trouttrout wrote: »

1. Hubert Buydens (Saskatoon Wild Oats/Prairie Wolf Pack), Ross's opposite number, jesus christ the mind boggles as to why Hagan wasn't given a start

is Buydens that bad ?? - I guarantee not , the Canadians as are the Americans are tough nuts - they may lack certain skills , but physically they are a match for us - or that would be my first hand experience from playing ther. I actually tip Canada to win.

trouttrout

Ok, I've had five pints. I think I'm ready for this now

Dave_The_Sheep

Buer wrote: »

Balls. I thought this was on earlier. I guess I'll be partaking in The Drunken Thread Part 2 (all be it as a sober contributor).

You still have plenty of time to remedy that.

I'm actually looking forward to this one. We can't (surely?) be as bad as the last day, and it'd be nice to see the lads cut loose a bit. A bit of a backlash from the terrible performance last weekend would be nice.

P_1

trouttrout wrote: »

1. Hubert Buydens (Saskatoon Wild Oats/Prairie Wolf Pack), Ross's opposite number, jesus christ the mind boggles as to why Hagan wasn't given a start

That's some set of team names I'll give them that.

Anybody else slightly disappointed that we won't be able to see 'closer, closer' ref this evening?

accidentprone1

Will be joining you for this one lads. Here's to hoping we see an absolute cracker and everyone else is green with envy in the morning.

Tox56

P_1 wrote: »

That's some set of team names I'll give them that.

Anybody else slightly disappointed that we won't be able to see 'closer, closer' ref this evening?

Gutted tbh, infuriating but entertaining in equal measure, we've actually got a respectable ref this time

Lelantos

trouttrout wrote: »

Ok, I've had five pints. I think I'm ready for this now

No, you're only half way there, keep drinking, when you see 30 green shirts on the field, then you're grand!

Buer

trouttrout wrote: »

Ok, I've had five pints. I think I'm ready for this now

I hope you've a few on ice or you'll be semi hungover by half time!

Buer

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

You still have plenty of time to remedy that.

Alas, I'm off the gargle for a couple of months. Combination of considering a return to playing and an impending wedding means I'm making an effort to be able to see my toes again.

Burgo

P_1 wrote: »

That's some set of team names I'll give them that.

Anybody else slightly disappointed that we won't be able to see 'closer, closer' ref this evening?

Yeah there goes the drinking game

Podge_irl

I'm gonna try and stay up for this, but I have to wait til 0140 so it's unclear if I'll make it. I have a bottle of wine to help me manage it though!

HigginsJ

Looking forward to the game. Hoping for big performances from Jones, Madigan, O'Donnell & POM

trouttrout

Struggling lads, I can hear the cot calling

Grimebox

trouttrout wrote: »

Struggling lads, I can hear the cot calling

ditto...

Buer

Don't think the thread is going to be quite so busy this time around!

trouttrout

Buer wrote: »

Don't think the thread is going to be quite so busy this time around!

I'm out anyway, enjoy lads. No doubt I'll wake up in the morning to discover we've trounced them by 50 points or something

Lelantos

Sky+ for me, probably watch the game on fast forward tomorrow, 30 Benny Hill's running around like mad fckers & me humming Yaketty Sax to myself all the way thru!

garv123

I'm a hour ahead of ye lazy feckers and im managing to stay up watching it

The bottles are chilling and the nachos are ready to be popped in the oven.

phog

Tox56 wrote: »

Cronin got fcuked over the same way the whole 6 Nations in an identical situation with Best, he deserved a run at some point. Strauss is blessed, can't understand why they've kept him (I'm perplexed with most these selections tbh), my only guess is that they know it will be either him or Best starting for the next few internationals and they want to give him as much time as possible in the set-up (he only has 3 caps to date)

Huge difference between the 6Ns and a summer tour against minnows like the USA and Canada. The full squad should have got as much game time as possible.

Anyway, G'wan Ireland

Tox56

phog wrote: »

Huge difference between the 6Ns and a summer tour against minnows like the USA and Canada. The full squad should have got as much game time as possible.

Anyway, G'wan Ireland

Which is why I think Cronin is on the bench

Chabals Beard

Tox56 wrote: »

Which is why I think Cronin is on the bench

Surely then Sherry would bench seeing Strauss got plenty of time last week

Tox56

Chabals Beard wrote: »

Surely then Sherry would bench seeing Strauss got plenty of time last week

What would have made sense is Sherry starting as otherwise in your scenario Cronin would have got absolutely no gametime, as I said I don't understand Strauss starting but I suggested a possible reason above

Auldloon

I'm in the uk so no tg4. Anywhere else showing it that anyone knows? Cant find it on sky. Pm's of streams welcome at match time.

sixy

Auldloon wrote: »

I'm in the uk so no tg4. Anywhere else showing it that anyone knows? Cant find it on sky. Pm's of streams welcome at match time.

Same please if anyone has one

accidentprone1

Half an hour lads, stay tough!

Grimebox

This is getting streamed on tg4 website right?

garv123

Auldloon wrote: »

I'm in the uk so no tg4. Anywhere else showing it that anyone knows? Cant find it on sky. Pm's of streams welcome at match time.

sixy wrote: »

Same please if anyone has one

done

Grimebox

Pm me too please?

garv123

Grimebox wrote: »

Pm me too please?

sent

errlloyd

I don't want to start a fight here, but is that stream people are watching in English?

Lelantos

errlloyd wrote: »

I don't want to start a fight here, but is that stream people are watching in English?

No, you only get a choice of Irish or Canadian, not available in English, sorry.

Chabals Beard

Fcuk it! The news of Shane Williams being called up has woken me up! I will tough it out.

garv123

Lelantos wrote: »

No, you only get a choice of Irish or Canadian, not available in English, sorry.

Just aswel I speak Irish.. my canadian is a bit dodgy

P.Walnuts

Really don;t know why i'm bothering to stay up after last week.....can't be worse i suppose...