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Best dry dog food?

  • 15-06-2013 10:13pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭


    Hi all,

    I want to change my dogs food, I've been feeding them commercial food but want to change to something better. I know Royal Canin are the best but are there any other brands that are just as good but cheaper? My dogs are crossbreed adults.

    Any suggestions would be great thanks! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭Rommie


    Royal Canin is far from the best! It is overpriced crap far as I can see, main ingredient in most of the types is maize. What you need is a good food with a named meat as the first ingredient. Plenty of them are much cheaper than Royal Canin. Have a look at Zooplus and Amazon. Skinners is on amazon, it's a very good food. I think the duck and rice is around 25euro.


  • Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭phelo2121


    always found James beloved and ardeen grange very good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Rommie wrote: »
    Royal Canin is far from the best! It is overpriced crap far as I can see, main ingredient in most of the types is maize. What you need is a good food with a named meat as the first ingredient. Plenty of them are much cheaper than Royal Canin. Have a look at Zooplus and Amazon. Skinners is on amazon, it's a very good food. I think the duck and rice is around 25euro.

    That can be deceptive though, as some foods put the meat content in before its dehydrated, so it may be the first ingredient, but once its been dehydrated, the meat content in the food is actually a lot lower than is stated. RC may not have the meat as the first ingredient in some of their foods, but that is because they dehydrate it before they list it. At the moment there are no rules on this in animal food manufacture, but hopefully it will change soon and then all foods can be judged equally. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭stoeger2000


    Hi all,

    I want to change my dogs food, I've been feeding them commercial food but want to change to something better. I know Royal Canin are the best but are there any other brands that are just as good but cheaper? My dogs are crossbreed adults.

    Any suggestions would be great thanks! :)

    Skinners is decent enough stuff, and not too dear. Have a look on amazon.
    Red mills engage is good too, as is their leader range.
    Royal canin is just overpriced for what it is. Probably because its imported from mainland europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭Rommie


    Good point actually muddy paws, i should have mentioned that. There are a lot of foods with dried meat as a first ingredient though that are nowhere near as expensive as royal canin


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Missyelliot2


    I use 'Select Gold" from Maxi zoo - having tried and tested loads!
    Seems to suit our little guy! It costs €20 for 4kg, but they often have offers on.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,323 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Orijen/Acana if you want the best (along with a few others; not including RC); several others that are cheaper but as good (and cheaper) then RC.


  • Registered Users Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Newport81


    Barking heads is the best so far for me anyway!

    I've tried burns arden grange hills science eukanuba.

    There's a new one out called eden which got 5/5 on 'which dog food' but can only be bought online


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭lorebringer


    Royal canin is very overpriced for the quality you get, there are lots of other (better) brands. Some of these include James Wellbeloved (a personal favourite of my guys - they all do very well on it), Burns, Select Gold, Real Nature, Acana, Orijen, Clinivet, Taste of the wild... there are lots out there!

    If you are going to change your dogs food, be sure you di it slowly (over the space of a week/10 days) to ensure your dog doesn't get an upset belly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    Used to use orjen , its a great food, but my dog was getting a little constipated on it. Now use Lukullus and that's working great for the last 18 months.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭DustyMan


    Red Mills Racer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭Rommie


    DustyMan wrote: »
    Red Mills Racer

    Red mills racer is a low quality food with a high cereals content and low undefined meat content. Some dogs may do fine on it, but the majority won't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭DustyMan


    Oh. I reared a German Shepard from a pup who did really well on it, Grew up to be a fine dog. Just my experience.


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭teggers5


    Has anyone any experience of Flatazor dog food? Ive been feeding my 3 on it a few weeks now. So far so good...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,323 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    teggers5 wrote: »
    Has anyone any experience of Flatazor dog food? Ive been feeding my 3 on it a few weeks now. So far so good...
    Not overly impressed by the ingredients (wheat/corn/corn gluten appear to be reoccurring second/third in them) or the unspecified "animal protein" etc. so it would depend on the price; it's about RC quality level at a glance (i.e. I'd expect around 30/40 EUR mark for ~10kg).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭aonb


    I'd vote too for Arden Grange and James Wellbeloved.
    My elderly dog who has gastric issues, Ive recently (thanks to contributing advice/suggestions on here :)) moved to home cooked, which is working out GREAT and pretty economical too. I buy chicken thighs and boil up with rice and carrots, or mince which I cook with potatos/carrots. I also buy from Nolans butchers in Kilcullen their fresh cooked dog food - its only meat (they have their own abbatoir) with a very small (5%?) of added rusk, nothing else, which works out well and would be worth a trip if you are anywhere near, to buy several lots and freeze. Im sure you are aware of the RAW diet too (Im not great with meat so its not for me, but there are lots of advocates for it)


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭diegroblers


    aonb wrote: »
    ...

    I buy chicken thighs and boil up with rice and carrots, or mince which I cook with potatos/carrots.
    ...

    Do you leave the bone in?


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭teggers5


    Nody wrote: »
    Not overly impressed by the ingredients (wheat/corn/corn gluten appear to be reoccurring second/third in them) or the unspecified "animal protein" etc. so it would depend on the price; it's about RC quality level at a glance (i.e. I'd expect around 30/40 EUR mark for ~10kg).

    Its €40 for 15kg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭Tropheus


    My advice would be to steer well clear of RC and their marketing machine. Orijen is excellent, but expensive. I've recently switched our Beagle to Eden which is of similar quality and produced in the UK. Take a look at http://www.ireland.edenpetfoods.com/.

    I've no connection other than having a happy dog that switched from the more expensive Orijen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭aonb


    Do you leave the bone in?

    I boil the chicken thighs with the bone in, along with the rice, then take out the thighs, de-bone and chop up the chicken and mix back with the rice & veg. I put the whole lot into a huge tupperware in the fridge - get about 4 or 5 days of dinner out of it.

    Cooked chicken bones are OUT for dogs, but raw chicken bones are ok. I reckon leaving the bones in for cooking is adding to the flavour/goodness :) Try it - its a good very economical option, and boy do my guys wolf it down!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭endabob1


    I have a similar question
    I am returning to Ireland with my 3yr old Beagle and will need to get a new brand of food for him as the product her currently eats is a local one, that I assume I will not be able to get the same brand at home.

    http://www.hungryhound.co.za/products/grandeur/adult

    Ingredients:
    Cereals (Min 80g/kg Rice), meat and animal derivatives (Min 140g/kg Beef & Chicken), derivatives of vegetable origin, vegetable protein extracts, fats & oils, fish & fish derivatives, Fructo Oligosaccharides, vitamins & minerals, Betaine, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Chondroitin Sulphate, approved anti-oxidants.

    We went through Hills for the first 18 months or so and then he went off it, it took a few trys to get one he really liked and worked well for him. He had some dodgy bum problems until we settled on this one about a year ago so i would be hoping to get something with similar meat & cereal content.

    Any suggestions??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    endabob1 wrote: »
    I have a similar question
    I am returning to Ireland with my 3yr old Beagle and will need to get a new brand of food for him as the product her currently eats is a local one, that I assume I will not be able to get the same brand at home.

    http://www.hungryhound.co.za/products/grandeur/adult

    Ingredients:
    Cereals (Min 80g/kg Rice), meat and animal derivatives (Min 140g/kg Beef & Chicken), derivatives of vegetable origin, vegetable protein extracts, fats & oils, fish & fish derivatives, Fructo Oligosaccharides, vitamins & minerals, Betaine, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Chondroitin Sulphate, approved anti-oxidants.

    We went through Hills for the first 18 months or so and then he went off it, it took a few trys to get one he really liked and worked well for him. He had some dodgy bum problems until we settled on this one about a year ago so i would be hoping to get something with similar meat & cereal content.

    Any suggestions??

    Why would you want such a low quality food with Cereal as its first ingredient? :confused: Also, the meat and animal derivitives are awful too. Thats a poor quality food and i would be definitely looking for something much better than that if it was me.

    There isnt actually any meat content in that, its derivitives which is crap parts of the animal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    andreac wrote: »
    Why would you want such a low quality food with Cereal as its first ingredient? :confused: Also, the meat and animal derivitives are awful too. Thats a poor quality food and i would be definitely looking for something much better than that if it was me.

    There isnt actually any meat content in that, its derivitives which is crap parts of the animal.

    Maybe you could list some brands you would consider good quality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭lorebringer


    Bullseye1 - I named quite a few decent brands in my above post (on first page of thread). If your dog is prone to a sensitive belly, Burns or James Wellbeloved would both be good brands to try (my guys do very well on JWB and a bag lasts quite a while).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    Maybe you could list some brands you would consider good quality.

    Theres loads already mentioned on this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Tranceypoo


    I switched my dogs to this food about 6 months ago

    http://www.zooplus.ie/shop/dogs/dry_dog_food/markus_muehle/128238#composition

    They were on Burns but it was a bit too expensive, they love this food, they were a bit 'meh' on the Burns although it was doing them good, this one works out well price wise for us, this special offer has been on for months, since I started buying it and honestly I have one dog who can be fussy and sometimes she wouldn't be bothered with the Burns but she twirls around for this so we're all happy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭223vmax


    aonb wrote: »
    I boil the chicken thighs with the bone in, along with the rice, then take out the thighs, de-bone and chop up the chicken and mix back with the rice & veg. I put the whole lot into a huge tupperware in the fridge - get about 4 or 5 days of dinner out of it.

    Cooked chicken bones are OUT for dogs, but raw chicken bones are ok. I reckon leaving the bones in for cooking is adding to the flavour/goodness :) Try it - its a good very economical option, and boy do my guys wolf it down!
    +1


  • Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭rat catcher


    as stated what ever food you go for , make the change over to the new food is at least 7-10 days or you could upset the dogs stomach! Some dogs do great eating crap foods, but stay on the mid-high range brands. Just like some people can eat nothing but crap and look and feel great while the rest of us have to eat a balanced diet or pay the price! I find red mills leader or arden grange very good for my dogs but saying that I also thought they looked amazing on eukanuba it worked out very dear to buy but found it lasted longer, but my local supplier kept running out or did not remember to order it so settled with red mills as it was easy to pick up! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭endabob1


    andreac wrote: »
    Why would you want such a low quality food with Cereal as its first ingredient? :confused: Also, the meat and animal derivitives are awful too. Thats a poor quality food and i would be definitely looking for something much better than that if it was me.

    There isnt actually any meat content in that, its derivitives which is crap parts of the animal.

    2 things;

    1 - Just because it's the first ingredient does not make it the main ingredient, the meat derivatives are a minimum 60g per kg more than the cereal, regardless of your take on the quality of the meat derivatives.
    2 - I've been through Hills, Eukanuba, and 2 other brands to get to one that the dog enjoyed and works well with his system, this one does. I am not asking for a critique of your interpretation of the ingredients I am asking for suggestions to a similar product.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    endabob1 wrote: »
    2 things;

    1 - Just because it's the first ingredient does not make it the main ingredient, the meat derivatives are a minimum 60g per kg more than the cereal, regardless of your take on the quality of the meat derivatives.
    2 - I've been through Hills, Eukanuba, and 2 other brands to get to one that the dog enjoyed and works well with his system, this one does. I am not asking for a critique of your interpretation of the ingredients I am asking for suggestions to a similar product.

    Sorry, but the ingredient listed first is always the main ingredient.


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