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Battery drained, need urgent advice!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭peckerhead


    I know this may sound stupid but did you check the handlebar switch is in the engine run position.
    Read my mind... happened to me once when I was starting out and boy, was my face red! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Turned out it was the battery!
    The recovery guy jumped the bike off his van, and away I went!

    Thanks for all the advice lads and ladies!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Soundman


    Happy out. At least it's an easy fix.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Turned out it was the battery!
    The recovery guy jumped the bike off his van, and away I went!

    Thanks for all the advice lads and ladies!

    Now go back and re-read bump starts :P

    Unless you're trying to turn over/bump start a ready heavy engine (HD V-twin, BMW etc) they're easy once you get the hang of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Now go back and re-read bump starts :P

    Unless you're trying to turn over/bump start a ready heavy engine (HD V-twin, BMW etc) they're easy once you get the hang of it.
    For big singles, I put mine in gear, pull it back against the compression so its just after TDC and then bump.
    The extra swing you get from not having to force the piston over compression really helps.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    For big singles, I put mine in gear, pull it back against the compression so its just after TDC and then bump.
    The extra swing you get from not having to force the piston over compression really helps.


    So you put the bike in gear and then walk the bike backwards for a bit

    Then you bump it by going forwards and letting the clutch out to fie the engine

    Is that what you mean?


    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    paddy147 wrote: »
    So you put the bike in gear and then walk the bike backwards for a bit

    Then you bump it by going forwards and letting the clutch out to fie the engine

    Is that what you meean?


    Thanks.
    Yep you have it. It means the engine isn't swinging straight into compression as you let the clutch out.it has one full revolution before compression starts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,403 ✭✭✭positron


    Yep, always practice bump starting - you never know when it will come handy. Learned it the hard way when Fazer's battery went down (after me leaving the ignition on all night.. doh!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,224 ✭✭✭goodlad


    Even walking my bike is a pain in the hole. I cant even get onto it unless its on the side stand.

    I couldnt imaging getting onto it while holding it let alone running with it and then jumping on, lol


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    Yep you have it. It means the engine isn't swinging straight into compression as you let the clutch out.it has one full revolution before compression starts.


    Thanks.....happened to me a good few years ago (2008 actually) with my SP1.

    Absolute biatch of a bike (1000cc V-Twin Superbike) to try and jump start.
    I gave up in the end,as I just couldnt get it to fire up,and it left me panting for breath from trying so much.:(:o


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    Sp1 has two cylinders working against each other, so you can't apply the same theory of putting it in the right position for bump starting etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    KamiKazi wrote: »
    Sp1 has two cylinders working against each other, so you can't apply the same theory of putting it in the right position for bump starting etc.


    So how would you bump start an SP1,Ducati or any similar V Twin superbike?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    paddy147 wrote: »
    So how would you bump start an SP1,Ducati or any similar V Twin superbike?

    I honestly wouldn't even bother trying. Even my old SV650 was a nightmare to bumpstart.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    KamiKazi wrote: »
    I honestly wouldn't even bother trying. Even my old SV650 was a nightmare to bumpstart.


    Thats what I did back in 2008 with the SP1.I gave up as I was knackered from it.

    Took the battery out and charged it up for a few hours instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,784 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    Yep you have it. It means the engine isn't swinging straight into compression as you let the clutch out.it has one full revolution before compression starts.

    Wouldn't be keen on 'backing' an engine that way.......timing chain tensioners only work in one direction. ...and that's not backwards.

    Go forward maybe, but not back. ....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    galwaytt wrote: »
    Wouldn't be keen on 'backing' an engine that way.......timing chain tensioners only work in one direction. ...and that's not backwards.

    Go forward maybe, but not back. ....

    You are only pulling the engine back to after TDC, not over the compression stroke.
    I read an interview with Freddie Spencer years ago that detailed how he had to push start the RS1000RW, back when all races were dead engine starts.
    Fast Freddie wasn't that big a guy and he was having problems starting that beast.
    A little HRC mechanic was watching him struggle and came over put the bike in 3rd gear and rolled it back until it started to feel resistance and then walked forwards and let the clutch out and it fired up straight away.
    I don't consider it an issue and have done it many times over the years with no problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Soundman


    How you getting on, horse? Get the bike sorted? Did it just need a decent charge or was there anything else afoot?


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