Ban Baiting

MadsL

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

It sometimes amazes me how people get sucked in so easily. most of the time, the poster being trolled knows full well they are being trolled but still react.

Trolls love posters like that.

And yet mods still give infractions to people who respond to trolls. No sympathy eh?

Micky Dolenz

MadsL wrote: »

And yet mods still give infractions to people who respond to trolls. No sympathy eh?

The rules are the rules. We normally ban the trolls, mind.

NuckingFacker

MadsL wrote: »

And yet mods still give infractions to people who respond to trolls. No sympathy eh?

But what if you didn't know they were a Troll?? My Troldar is broken - the lad from Tectatroll can't come till next wednesday. I shall have to tread warily. Jasus. What if you're trolling??? This is getting complicated..

MadsL

NuckingFacker wrote: »

But what if you didn't know they were a Troll?? My Troldar is broken - the lad from Tectatroll can't come till next wednesday. I shall have to tread warily. Jasus. What if you're trolling??? This is getting complicated..

Should have bought the Troll-ease 2000. Better fuel economy too.

Here's a pic...http://www.cromwell-intl.com/oliver/pictures/troll-detector.jpg

120_Minutes

I alway tell myself that I wont reply to the anti-cannabis trolls, but the ****ers keep godfathering me.

NuckingFacker

MadsL wrote: »

Should have bought the Troll-ease 2000. Better fuel economy too.

Here's a pic...http://www.cromwell-intl.com/oliver/pictures/troll-detector.jpg

That Troll-ease has been used on a travveler thread -it's gone off the scale and gotten stuck. The Tectatroll is travveler thread proof to 10,000 posts. And it runs on LPG with the optional conversion kit. Sadly, reliability suffers.

Nemeses

NuckingFacker wrote: »

That Troll-ease has been used on a travveler thread -it's gone off the scale and gotten stuck. The Tectatroll is travveler thread proof to 10,000 posts. And it runs on LPG with the optional conversion kit. Sadly, reliability suffers.

Don't worry, I hear another model is due out later this summer

Doctor Strange

returnNull wrote: »

rat

Thanks for that extremely useful post. Now, why don't you inform us of some more of your incredibly intelligent opinions?

B.A._Baracus

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

They'll insult you and they'll rise you with the above.

That is something I have never understood personally though. I have had all kinds of insults thrown at me on line. Especially related to my relationship which is somewhat not ordinary. On this site and many others. The people doing so have tried to insult me - my partners - my parents - my daughter - and worse.

And not once ever have I risen to it or felt offended by it. The reason being that these opinions and insults are coming from people who's opinion I do not yet repsect and until I respect them or their opinions nothing they say can offend me. In fact there is a user going around boards.ie with a motto on this - along the lines of the only person demeaned by insults is the person using them.

So I guess I just do not understand how people become invested in the opinions of faceless unknown people enough TO be "Ban Baited" in this fashion. Is it a personal insecurity thing that allows people to see in the words of others failings they already see in themselves so they lash out at the other? Or is there some other root to it?

Or am I just emotionally dead inside and that is the reason I am impervious to the insults of others? Or some other failing on my part?

Rats only come looking for food where there is food - upon finding none they leave. If people come on forums looking for a reaction - the only reason they come is people give them that reaction.

KyussBishop

After a certain amount of time posting online (especially debates), you become pretty much impervious to trolling (though tbh, some things still can rile you up out of offensiveness); there are so many hard to distinguish kinds of it though.

One big one, is where posters in a discussion discard with any attempts at logical argument (they'll still keep up the pretense of it though), and ratchet up the condescension/ridicule, combined with deep amounts of fallacious argument/ill-logic to obfuscate the real issues under discussion, so they can then try to both 'win' an argument on social impressions (usually combined with other posters doing the same), and as a bonus, to get a rise out of other posters (maybe even with them getting banned).

I don't actually think that is 'trolling' when the posters actually believe (or support the end goals of the belief, without believing themselves) what they are saying/supporting though, it is kind of ambiguous; it's the difference between trying to purely get a rise out of someone (trolling), and trying to push their view despite knowing it won't hold up to logical argument (not trolling - maybe shilling, or something more insidious).


Trolls and obvious shills are relatively harmless; these types though (where guides to fallacious/dishonest argument are not for spotting it, but are used as instructions), are a lot more insidious/offensive, because they try to fool people in a much deeper way (a bit like a religion or cult), and to control/muddy discussion of certain topics.

That's far more harmful/corrupt than any regular troll can be; trolls are just a bit of fun in comparison.

Bits_n_Bobs

Cathal Cloch wrote: »

That's racist.

And anti-left hand people and public service bashing and possibly pornographic.

Nemeses

Bits_n_Bobs wrote: »

And anti-left hand people and public service bashing and possibly pornographic.

What's wrong with left handed people eh?

Wacker The Attacker

Specialun wrote: »

I think i heard a very good ban baiter is known as a master

I banmastered to bollix off meself last night

old_aussie

Specialun wrote: »

I think i heard a very good ban baiter is known as a master

Ahhh, a Master Baiter.

uch

Nemeses wrote: »

What's wrong with left handed people eh?

We can't wipe our arsés

Grayson

RayM wrote: »

The best way to get around it is to call their post idiotic. Whenever I call someone's post idiotic or (better still) imbecilic, it's probably quite obvious that I'm only doing so because the rules preclude me from calling them an idiot.

only a complete fcuking idiot would buy into that bullsh1t.
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Could be worse, at least ban baiters aren't grammar nazis

stimpson

Grayson wrote: »

Only a complete fcuking idiot would buy into that bullsh1t.
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It could be worse. At least ban baiters aren't grammar Nazis.

FYP

Nemeses

uch wrote: »

We can't wipe our arsés

I didn't believe you at first... but yup you're right ..


We just can't

Grayson

stimpson wrote: »

FYP I'm a cnut

FYP

stimpson

Grayson wrote: »

FYP

Post reported.

returnNull

Unforgettable _ Fire wrote: »

Thanks for that extremely useful post. Now, why don't you inform us of some more of your incredibly intelligent opinions?

loved the way you use italics like a boss,shows a very high level of intelligence.Im suitably impressed and chastened by it.My comment was meant tongue in cheek.

atkin

old_aussie wrote: »

Ahhh, a Master Baiter.

ahh ****e why did i not tink of that joke
Feck I had forgotten this tread it goes on and on.
Scambaitng is more fun .I like to (bull mick) ride these worms.
Riding.

Nemeses

atkin wrote: »

Riding.

Horses?

atkin

Ye better ask bull mick he he he is always talking about riding