2013-14 Uefa Champions League

wonski

snowblind wrote: »

Heh, I guess it's fine for you as you loved the result!

For me, whatever the result, the match was not football. That one side of the one half of a pitch that was trampled made passing impossible. Passing is an important part of football. It would have been barely football even without the tractor course.

The fact that UEFA agreed the game to go on is not "rules". It is UEFA making a bad decision. And you are saying that because UEFA is boss, they should not be criticized?

Nah, we both have a right to criticize...especially when it is UEFA or FIFA
If it was 0-0 I would say the same anyway. Me being a fan of Sneijder has nothing to do with it or the score.
I think we explained ourselves, agreed to disagree and appreciate being polite, and respect each others opinions. Looking forward for tonight - 3 teams in Arsenal group are in chance. Do not expect BVB to loose, and Arsenal to loose by 3 goals, but you never know.
Enjoy the games lads, and - hopefully - the wheather won't come into play.

GTR63

GavRedKing wrote: »

I'm happy anyway, I'd much rather play Galatasray than Juventus in the Last 16.

I wouldn't. They lost like 10-2 in the 2 games vs Real. They'll get well beaten in the last 16 too.

764dak

Hopefully, Ajax knocks out Milan but Milan will probably go through. Referee in the first game gave Milan an undeserving penalty.

Pinturicchio

Mancini:



“I think it was difficult to play with the ball on the ground and maybe it would have been better not to play as I said before the match,” he told Sky Sport after the match.

“Then the match was open and we deserved to win because we were more aggressive in the second half.

“It was impossible to play last night due to the ice that formed on the pitch and nobody wanted to play. For me, it wasn’t right to play today either.

“After the first half it was impossible to suspend the match but I agree with [Antonio] Conte as it was close to, if not, impossible to play and it was no longer a game of football."

GTR63

Marginally related but the Ajax youth team refused to play the Milan primavera team today in the UEFA Youth League despite the ref ruling the pitch as being playable. Ajax said the pitch was too hard.

deafroadrunner

any idea how many goals dortmund need to win by to top the group if arsenal lose

Smithwicks Man

deafroadrunner wrote: »

any idea how many goals dortmund need to win by to top the group if arsenal lose

Does it go totally on score difference?

If Arsenal lose ad Dortmund win, then Dortmund would top the group even if they were both 1-0's as there's only 1 goal difference between them.

Correct me if I'm wrong there anybody but I'd imagine that's it

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

Does it go totally on score difference?

If Arsenal lose ad Dortmund win, then Dortmund would top the group even if they were both 1-0's as there's only 1 goal difference between them.

Correct me if I'm wrong there anybody but I'd imagine that's it

If Arsenal lose and Dormund win, Dormund are top via two away goals in the Arsenal-Dortund ties as opposed to Arsenal's one. The acual scores tonight have no effect.

deafroadrunner

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

Does it go totally on score difference?

If Arsenal lose ad Dortmund win, then Dortmund would top the group even if they were both 1-0's as there's only 1 goal difference between them.

Correct me if I'm wrong there anybody but I'd imagine that's it

think it does because bill was saying if arsenal lose by 3 and then napoli are through

GTR63

Who knew bringing in Bonera and Constant wouldn't improve our defense

delija_sever029

Milan is really having worst defense line in last decade or two....

GTR63

delija_sever029 wrote: »

Milan is really having worst defense line in last decade or two....

Montolivo sent off now, fücking gobshíte.
Where is Newman to say nice game pretty boy.

delija_sever029

tackle for jail ! deserved red card

C'mon you Ajax!

JPA

Neymar hattrick, 5 nil.

delija_sever029

same boring as Milan-Ajax...

delija_sever029

Crazy russians,when they saw Atletico is leading against Porto on HT,they let Vienna demolish them in 2nd half....

Nervy end to the Arsenal match now.

Rayne Wooney

If Dortmund score do Arsenal go out or something?

Rayne Wooney

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

If Dortmund score do Arsenal go out or something?

If Dortmund win and Napoli win by 3 then Arsenal are out.


That was a highly intelligent move by Arteta to get himself sent off.

kksaints

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

If Dortmund score do Arsenal go out or something?

Nope. Arsenal have to lose 3-0.

citytillidie

Napoli stupidity costing them

Soft Falling Rain

citytillidie wrote: »

Napoli stupidity costing them

Well, like Shakhar last night, they were very wasteful. It shouldn't have taken until Higuain's goal to score.

keith16

citytillidie wrote: »

Napoli stupidity costing them

Hey, yup! Why not just go for it? Mad group....Dortmund went from going into the Europa to winning the group in the last 15 mins :eek:

citytillidie

Tonights Games
Group E
FC Schalke 04 (GER) 2 V 0 FC Basel 1893 (SUI)
Chelsea FC (ENG) 1 V 0 FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU)

Group F
SSC Napoli (ITA) 2 V 0 Arsenal FC (ENG)
Olympique de Marseille (FRA) 1 V 2 Borussia Dortmund (GER)

Group G
FK Austria Wien (AUT) 4 V 1 FC Zenit St. Petersburg (RUS)
Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) 2 V 0 FC Porto (POR)

Group H
FC Barcelona (ESP) 6 V 1 Celtic FC (SCO)
AC Milan (ITA) 0 V 0 AFC Ajax (NED)

Seeds
Manchester United FC (ENG)
Real Madrid CF (ESP)
Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA)
FC Bayern München (GER)
Chelsea FC (ENG)
Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
FC Barcelona (ESP)

Unseeded
Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER)
Galatasaray AŞ (TUR)
Olympiacos FC (GRE)
Manchester City FC (ENG)
FC Schalke 04 (GER)
Arsenal FC (ENG)
FC Zenit St. Petersburg (RUS)
AC Milan (ITA)

Europa League
FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)
Juventus (ITA)
SL Benfica (POR)
FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)
FC Basel 1893 (SUI)
SSC Napoli (ITA)
FC Porto (POR)
AFC Ajax (NED)

Seeded:
Atlético Madrid
Barcelona
Bayern Munich
Borussia Dortmund
Chelsea
Manchester United
Paris Saint-Germain
Real Madrid


Unseeded:
AC Milan
Arsenal
Bayer Leverkusen
Galatasaray
Manchester City
Olympiacos
Schalke 04
Zenit St. Petersburg


Costly loss for Arsenal tonight.

citytillidie

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

Well, like Shakhar last night, they were very wasteful. It shouldn't have taken until Higuain's goal to score.

But there was a spell of 10 mins after they scored where they did not try hoping the other game would finish 1-1

Soft Falling Rain

citytillidie wrote: »

But there was a spell of 10 mins after they scored where they did not try hoping the other game would finish 1-1

Aye, I assume they were only following orders though. Being a Liverpool fan, it did remind me of the bizarre nature of Rafa's tactics at times.

GTR63

Deleted User wrote: »

Seeded:
Atlético Madrid
Barcelona
Bayern Munich
Borussia Dortmund
Chelsea
Manchester United
Paris Saint-Germain
Real Madrid


Unseeded:
AC Milan
Arsenal
Bayer Leverkusen
Galatasaray
Manchester City
Olympiacos
Schalke 04
Zenit St. Petersburg


Costly loss for Arsenal tonight.

A lot of those unseeded teams are quite poor. Not surprised Arsenal lost tonite, unlucky for Napoli to not go through.

GTR63

GTR63 wrote: »

A lot of those unseeded teams are quite poor. Not surprised Arsenal lost tonite, unlucky for Napoli to not go through.

It's as close to my opinion of the best teams. Only ones I would maybe swap would be Atletico for Milan or Arsenal.
Arsenal's shambles tonight means they went from facing one of Milan, Leverkusen, Galatasaray, Olympiacos or Schalke to one of Atletico, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, PSG, Real Madrid.

Jelle1880

Must be sickening for Napoli, 12 points and still out.

Meanwhile Zenit have 6 and qualify.

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CSF

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's as close to my opinion of the best teams. Only ones I would maybe swap would be Atletico for Milan or Arsenal.
Arsenal's shambles tonight means they went from facing one of Milan, Leverkusen, Galatasaray, Olympiacos or Schalke to one of Atletico, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, PSG, Real Madrid.

Dunno what Milan you've been watching, Atletico are at least twice as good.

CSF

CSF wrote: »

Dunno what Milan you've been watching, Atletico are at least twice as good.

And Arsenal are the best team in England.

K4t

Deleted User wrote: »

And Arsenal are the best team in England.

With the amount of coverage of Champions League football I think a lot of people have forgotten that it's a cup competition.

Will I Amnt

[Deleted User] wrote: »

And Arsenal are the best team in England.

Nah. I'd wait until they've been tested a bit better before saying that.

Lawrence1895

I felt a bit like last season against Malaga, tbh :rolleyes:

All those wasted chances, sick of that...but at least, luck was on Dortmund's side. I hope, we don't get Galatasaray

K4t

Deleted User wrote: »

And Arsenal are the best team in England.

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Nah. I'd wait until they've been tested a bit better before saying that.

Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

Will I Amnt

K4t wrote: »

Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

Yeah, I didn't read anything before that comment :pac:

Vincent Vega

How can people here be so blaisè about what looks to be clear overnight manipulation of one half of the pitch in Galatasaray's favour?
Falling back on the 'well Juve have themselves to blame' idea is weak, as every legitimate way of accumulating enough points to reach the second round is as good as the next.
If this happened to say, Utd/Liverpool/Arsenal or one of our beloved PL teams I'd imagine the same people would be singing a completely different tune.
It appears to be nothing other than outright sabotage of the pitch as far as I can see, and should be looked into by UEFA.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Vincent Vega wrote: »

How can people here be so blaisè about what looks to be clear overnight manipulation of one half of the pitch in Galatasaray's favour?
Falling back on the 'well Juve have themselves to blame' idea is weak, as every legitimate way of accumulating enough points to reach the second round is as good as the next.
If this happened to say, Utd/Liverpool/Arsenal or one of our beloved PL teams I'd imagine the same people would be singing a completely different tune.
It appears to be nothing other than outright sabotage of the pitch as far as I can see, and should be looked into by UEFA.

Where's that image? I had it somehere... hang on... oh yeah....



**** it... didn;t work... editing....

EDIT - nope it;s not workin....

EDIT 2 - bingo

riffmongous

I was at the Austria-Zenit game tonight, good soccer game to watch but it was almost ruined by some Zenit scum throwing flares and fireworks at us. There really needs to be more punishment for clubs that have these elements in them until they are gotten rid of for good.

riffmongous

A good photo from the game



You'd wonder what sort of scum these guys are that they could throw fireworks at little kids. Of course in UEFA's moral system that'll probably just be a 20k fine :rolleyes:

More here
link

Moneymaker

Jesus Christ.

It's about time the book gets thrown at these Russians clubs.

This sort of **** keeps happening and no stadium bans will resolve it.

Russian clubs should be banned from European competition until these sort of **** stops.

riffmongous

It's also worth pointing out that the section we were in that they were throwing stuff at was about half full of Zenit supporters, mostly russians living in vienna, you can see blue scarves on some of the kids in the photo

delija_sever029

Atletico is going to be this year's Dortmund i feel,they are on fire playing damn good season and i am really looking forward to next phase of CL

AdamD

Vincent Vega wrote: »

How can people here be so blaisè about what looks to be clear overnight manipulation of one half of the pitch in Galatasaray's favour?
Falling back on the 'well Juve have themselves to blame' idea is weak, as every legitimate way of accumulating enough points to reach the second round is as good as the next.
If this happened to say, Utd/Liverpool/Arsenal or one of our beloved PL teams I'd imagine the same people would be singing a completely different tune.
It appears to be nothing other than outright sabotage of the pitch as far as I can see, and should be looked into by UEFA.

Because most of us will never ever have any sympathy with that disgrace of a football club

snowblind

AdamD wrote: »

Because most of us will never ever have any sympathy with that disgrace of a football club

Please, tell us more of the disgrace? Them not being a Premier League team?

Morzadec

Deleted User wrote: »

It's as close to my opinion of the best teams. Only ones I would maybe swap would be Atletico for Milan or Arsenal.
Arsenal's shambles tonight means they went from facing one of Milan, Leverkusen, Galatasaray, Olympiacos or Schalke to one of Atletico, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, PSG, Real Madrid.

Seriously?

Atletico are there on absolute merit and are certainly in the top 8 teams in Europe at the moment. They've drawn 2 and lost 1 all season in all competitions!


No one will want to face them.


Milan on the other hand seem to be a shadow of their former selves judging by their recent results and nowhere near the quality of the top 8.


Arsenal vs Atleti would be a great game, I'd love to see it. 2 pretty evenly matched teams with two completely contrasting styles and two great managers with different philosophies.

Would be a superb, intriguing and entertaining tie imo, and a really good barometer for both teams to test where they are after surprising a lot of people this season

mike65

Italian football in crisis again.

snowblind

People really love throwing that word crisis around, huh?

delija_sever029

I wonder when italians werent in crisis? in 90's?