2013-14 UEFA Europa League

smileyj1987

DM360 wrote: »

Only saw one replay of the sending off but it definitely looked harsh, Soldado threw an elbow in the first half and got off scott free. Very poor from Vertonghen, I hate that sort of thing.

Game has been completely swung in Spurs' favour now, no wonder really though.

To me that sending off was madness . It looked like both players leaned in with their heads and as soon as verthongen felt contact he dropped to the ground .

Vincent Vega

Shameful stuff from Vertonghen. Completely changed the game.
To me that didnt even look like a headbutt, more like he was just getting up in his face.

hullaballoo

DM360 wrote: »

Only saw one replay of the sending off but it definitely looked harsh

I'm no fan of Spurs but headbutting a lad while the ball is dead is a sending off!

The playacting from Vertonghen a couple of seconds later seems just to be an element of the game, whether players think it draws the ref's attention or what.

Francie Barrett

Vertonghen milked it, no doubt, but if you look at the camera angle from the side you will see that Vertonghen didn't move an inch.

DM360

hullaballoo wrote: »

I'm no fan of Spurs but headbutting a lad while the ball is dead is a sending off!

The playacting from Vertonghen a couple of seconds later seems just to be an element of the game, whether players think it draws the ref's attention or what.

If you could call that a headbutt, Vertonghen initiated the altercation with a 'body check' and should have been given his marching orders as well.

Francie Barrett

DM360 wrote: »

If you could call that a headbutt, Vertonghen initiated the altercation with a 'body check' and should have been given his marching orders as well.

Soldado just cannot score.

Vincent Vega

This does not look like a headbutt to me.

DM360

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Soldado just cannot score.

Vertonghen moved towards your man and shoved him, the other lad flinched while moving his head forward. Vertonghen initiated it

smileyj1987

hullaballoo wrote: »

I'm no fan of Spurs but headbutting a lad while the ball is dead is a sending off!

The playacting from Vertonghen a couple of seconds later seems just to be an element of the game, whether players think it draws the ref's attention or what.

Well as I said above it looked like both of them leaned towards each other with their heads and as soon as verthongen felt the other players head brush off his he dropped to the ground and rolled . He was a lucky boy that his team mates held the Dnipro player back .

Francie Barrett

The video is showing the wrong camera angle. If you at the angle from Vertonghen's side in the replay, you will see that Vertonghen moved across the other player.

hullaballoo

Vincent Vega wrote: »

This does not look like a headbutt to me.

Thanks for that. If you watch the Dnipro player you'll clearly see him put his head into Vertonghen's face. That's what a headbut is.

What you're saying is that if I see someone coming towards me and swing a punch, it's not really a punch because they walked into my fist. I definitely don't think the person who walks into my fist deserves a red card either, in case that was unclear.

Vincent Vega

hullaballoo wrote: »

Thanks for that. If you watch the Dnipro player you'll clearly see him put his head into Vertonghen's face. That's what a headbut is.

What you're saying is that if I see someone coming towards me and swing a punch, it's not really a punch because they walked into my fist. I definitely don't think the person who walks into my fist deserves a red card either, in case that was unclear.

I wonder if i'm watching the same clip here, but to me it looks as if his body is pushed back first by Vertonghen, and he decides to stand his ground.
The motion that has him go onto his back foot also makes his head raise slightly.

To call that a headbutt is laughable.

If you had your arm stretched out with a fist clenched, and a person walked into you pushing towards the lower part of your body so that it moved backwards, making the fist 'hit' them, well then I wouldn't say you punched them, no.

AdamD

Pathetic from Vertonghen, he has previous too.

davycc

AdamD wrote: »

Pathetic from Vertonghen, he has previous too.

what previous would that be?

AdamD

davycc wrote: »

what previous would that be?

I believe it was Chelsea earlier in the season he decided to roll around holding his face after being hit in the shoulder by Torres.

hullaballoo

I'm really not bothered arguing the point any further. It was a headbut and a red card. Vertonghen probably started the aggro and definitely made a meal of it.

http://twitpic.com/dwudt1/full - slower and different angle. To me, that's a gif of a man putting his forehead into another man's face.

Turtwig

Blatant headbutt. Jan provoked it maybe but cannot spell D player took the bait and was rightly sent off. His own fault really. Coy and sly of Vertonghen but that's irrelevant.

Spurs were awful. Still not convinced the Sherwood is a good option.

davycc

AdamD wrote: »

I believe it was Chelsea earlier in the season he decided to roll around holding his face after being hit in the shoulder by Torres.

The incident where Torres purposley gouged his face?

was a fair enough good old centre forward/centre back tussle going on up til that stage and torres crossed the line and got a red.. Jan did feck all wrong tbh...the only person who blamed jan was maurinho who deflects attention away from torres and his bs media chums lapped it up

Pro. F

Watched a replay of the Napoli Swansea game late last night. Was very a very good game.

Swansea really missed Britton. It's amazing how well Napoli pressed, it's crazy how hard a Benitez team can be to play against. I think Swansea made life even more difficult for themselves by playing too direct. When they got the ball into good positions in midfield they nearly always looked to spring forward from there instead of just settling down to dominate possession for a bit and squeeze the life out of the game.

KingdomYid

Every player would have done the same as Jan, there was contact and it was a red card.

citytillidie

Round of 32 Results
Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) 3 V 1 FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (UKR) (Agg 3-2)
FC Rubin Kazan (RUS) 0 V 2 Real Betis Balompié (ESP) (Agg 1-3)
SSC Napoli (ITA) 3 V 1 Swansea City AFC (ENG) (Agg 3-1)
Trabzonspor AS (TUR) 0 V 2 Juventus (ITA) (Agg 0-4)
Sevilla FC (ESP) 2 V 1 NK Maribor (SVN) (Agg 4-3)
FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) 1 V 2 FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) (Agg 2-3)
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) 1 V 0 FC Chornomorets Odesa (UKR) (Agg 1-0)
PFC Ludogorets Razgrad (BUL) 3 V 3 SS Lazio (ITA) (Agg 4-3)
ACF Fiorentina (ITA) 1 V 1 Esbjerg fB (DEN) (Agg 4-2)
FC Salzburg (AUT) 3 V 1 AFC Ajax (NED) (Agg 6-1)
FC Basel 1893 (SUI) 3 V 0 Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC (ISR) (Agg 3-0)
Eintracht Frankfurt (GER) 3 V 3 FC Porto (POR) (Agg 5-5) FC Porto (POR) win on Away goals
KRC Genk (BEL) 0 V 2 FC Anji Makhachkala (RUS) (Agg 0-2)
Valencia CF (ESP) 0 V 0 FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) (Agg 2-0)
SL Benfica (POR) 3 V 0 PAOK FC (GRE) (Agg 4-0)
AZ Alkmaar (NED) 1 V 1 FC Slovan Liberec (CZE) (Agg 2-1)

Round of 16 draw
AZ Alkmaar (NED) V FC Anji Makhachkala (RUS)
PFC Ludogorets Razgrad (BUL) V Valencia CF (ESP)
FC Porto (POR) V SSC Napoli (ITA)
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) V FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)
Sevilla FC (ESP) V Real Betis Balompié (ESP)
Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) V SL Benfica (POR)
FC Basel 1893 (SUI) V FC Salzburg (AUT)
Juventus (ITA) V ACF Fiorentina (ITA)

Omackeral

Some nice ties there. Interesting to see see an all Spanish affair and an all Italian match. Must be honest, I've never heard of Ludogratz, anyone know anything about them?

kksaints

Omackeral wrote: »

Some nice ties there. Interesting to see see an all Spanish affair and an all Italian match. Must be honest, I've never heard of Ludogratz, anyone know anything about them?

A Seville derby and a grudge match between Fiorentina and Juventus. Should be some cracking matches.
Ludogorets are Bulgarian. They got through to the last qualifier round of the Champions League before Basel knocked them out. They won their Europa League group and knocked out Lazio. Top of the Bulgarian League atm. They have a few Brazilian players and their top scorer is Slovenian. None of the players names rung a bell anyway.

eagle eye

kksaints wrote: »

A Seville derby and a grudge match between Fiorentina and Juventus. Should be some cracking matches.
Ludogorets are Bulgarian. They got through to the last qualifier round of the Champions League before Basel knocked them out. They won their Europa League group and knocked out Lazio. Top of the Bulgarian League atm. They have a few Brazilian players and their top scorer is Slovenian. None of the players names rung a bell anyway.

Only formed in 2001, 6000 seater stadium. Their manager who brought them to the top division and the treble and qualification is only 38 but has left for some reason. Seems a controversial figure, his name is Ivaylo Petev.

Their new manager is Syoycho Stoev, they did ok in the ECL and are currently top of the Bulgarian league. Seems they were taken over by a local businessman a couple of years back. I don't know how much he is worth but he seems to be worth quite a bit.

grenache

Porto v Napoli, this evening's early game on ITV 4 now.

All Porto so far, Eduardo has had a goal incorrectly disallowed for offside. Martinéz has also forced a world class save out of Pepe Reina.

Brendan Rogers would probably call it a top, top, top save.

mike65

Just a pity so many of these games are played in half empty (at least) grounds.

grenache

Napoli pass up three good chances and Martinez scores with a half volley at the other end. Porto should see it out from here.

GTR63

Juve vs Fiorentina should be good fun at 8 on Setanta Ireland.
Looking forward to them ties more than any games in europe the next fortnite.

AdamD

Nice goal from Rodrigo, good pace and finish.

keith16

AdamD wrote: »

Nice goal from Rodrigo, good pace and finish.

Lovely assist.

bad2dabone

AdamD wrote: »

Nice goal from Rodrigo, good pace and finish.

yeah class goal.

HalloweenJack

Anybody watching the Seville derby?

Betis winning one nil away and Gameiro just missed a sitter for Sevilla!

HalloweenJack

2-0 Betis!

GTR63

1-1 in Turin, big away goal & well taken by Mario Gomez. Good game but the equalizer was a bit out of nowhere.

Dempsey

Spurs & Sherwood are sunk!

1-3

bad2dabone

oooohh man it's getting ugly at White Hart Lane - benfica with 3 away goals.

klose

Eriksen scored a worldy of a free to make it 2-1 to benfica but theyve just scored a 3rd, luisao with a cannon of a shot

keith16

Gus from breaking bad on the coaching staff of Benfica now.

citytillidie

Results for last night

AZ Alkmaar (NED) 1 V 0 FC Anji Makhachkala (RUS)
PFC Ludogorets Razgrad (BUL) 0 V 3 Valencia CF (ESP)
FC Porto (POR) 1 V 0 SSC Napoli (ITA)
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) 4 V 1 FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)
Sevilla FC (ESP) 0 V 2 Real Betis Balompié (ESP)
Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) 1 V 3 SL Benfica (POR)
FC Basel 1893 (SUI) 0 V 0 FC Salzburg (AUT)
Juventus (ITA) 1 V 1 ACF Fiorentina (ITA)

citytillidie

Tonights games

FC Anji Makhachkala (RUS) V AZ Alkmaar (NED) (Agg 1-0)
Valencia CF (ESP) V PFC Ludogorets Razgrad (BUL) (Agg 3-0)
SSC Napoli (ITA) V FC Porto (POR) (Agg 0-1)
FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) V Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) (Agg 1-4)
Real Betis Balompié (ESP) V Sevilla FC (ESP) (Agg 2-0)
SL Benfica (POR) V Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) (Agg 3-1)
FC Salzburg (AUT) V FC Basel 1893 (SUI) (Agg 0-0)
ACF Fiorentina (ITA) V Juventus (ITA) (Agg 1-1)

LuckyLloyd

Building towards a decent lineup for the quarters. Hope Napoli can conjure a performance tonight.

Nuri Sahin

Eriksen on the bench for Spurs.
Rodrigo on the bench for Benfica.

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Garay scores, Benfica 1-0

Nuri Sahin

And Anzhi's journey into the abyss is all but complete.

Juve heading out as things stand.

mike65

Spurs on the edge of dragging the tie to extra time.

Francie Barrett

WTF - Spurs nearly level for the tie.

mike65

What a dive

Francie Barrett

Should have been a pen for Spurs.

mike65

Very easy, but Spurs have chance to punt this in.

mike65

Should have scored

mike65

Oh dear - insult added to injury.