Today I did some detailing...

Curran

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What?

Iron cleanse, I'm referring to, not tar..?

I was told that I should leave it for a while and the general consensus on here at the time (from what i recall) is that I wasn't leaving it on for long enough. So I took a break from detailing for a half an hour to get something to eat, etc. and did the iron cleanse before i went. Came back about 30 minutes later and all I got was this lousy t-shirt

Hadnt you already done a hit of Iron Cleanse diluted down, only a few days before hand. ..so it would have removed a certain amount and not a whole lot left to react with on the 2nd attempt.

Curran

Curran wrote: »

Hadnt you already done a hit of Iron Cleanse diluted down, only a few days before hand. ..so it would have removed a certain amount and not a whole lot left to react with on the 2nd attempt.

I did, but not on that wheel. That wheel was the spare wheel (that I skipped over the first time around).

MetzgerMeister

Deleted User wrote: »

I did, but not on that wheel. That wheel was the spare wheel (that I skipped over the first time around).

Well in that case it would very rarely have been used so there's your answer!

Ded_Zebra

Day 3. Only got a fairly small bit done today because I had college due :rolleyes:

Step one was take the car out of the garage and wash it to get rid of all the remaining polish residue. For the craic I put an nice of APC into the snow foam lance and filled it to the top with warm water. Doing this produced a nice thick long dwelling foam (though not as long as snow foam). Might be worth trying for the people having problems with their foam. Was just the Lidl stuff that I used, it might help diagnose is the problem is with the foam or the lance

Here's a few snaps of it out in natural light after washing it down.







Tail light polished up and looking lovely.



Then I got a bit lazy and washed the wheel arches out with the wheels on. I wanted to get it back in the garage ASAP as it looked a bit like rain for a while and if the car is in the garage I could just take the wheels out and wash them.
I still washed them out fairly well though



Then heres a wheel before.





Washing with wheel cleanse. The reason I'm using a broken brush it because I drove over it



Scrubbing the tyre down.



Iron cleanse.

Ded_Zebra

Clay



Note that I painted the wheels myself and did a fairly shoddy job (still way better than they were before though) so the surface is pretty rough and didn't come 100% clean. I'm still fairly happy though

The next thing I turned my attention to is the brake caliper. Scrubbed down with wheel cleanse, rinsed and then dried. Nearly put CG wheel guard on them but didn't clean them well enough and didn't want to dirty my applicator pad!



After.



Next it was the wheel arches. They were cleaned earlier so I put a bit of tyre dressing on them to blacken them.





At the same time as doing the wheel arches it turns out that wheel guard doesn't cure when it's 0ºc
Into the kitchen it was :D



THen it was center cap time. They were beside the car and got a lot of polish sling on them.



They were cleaned whit wheel cleanse too and then treated to wheel guard. 3 coats, same as the wheels

The finished result!



I also did 3 coats of Extra gloss protection on the paint. I'm thinking of doing a couple of more… Do you think that's excessive or a good plan?

Curran

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

I also did 3 coats of Extra gloss protection on the paint. I'm thinking of doing a couple of more… Do you think that's excessive or a good plan?

There's no harm, but its a case of diminisihing returns putting on more and more coats. 2 or 3 is generally enough. And the 3rd would be more a case of ensuring that you've got 100% coverage, as you'll generally miss a few small areas doing each coat.

MetzgerMeister

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Well in that case it would very rarely have been used so there's your answer!

But that was my most extreme case of purple-ness, including the wheels that were on the car all the time.

(the spare wheel had definitely been used in the past, by the way, it was filthy when I first looked at it after buying the car. I spent ages cleaning it before I did that few days of cleaning the Rav as a whole)

MetzgerMeister

Deleted User wrote: »

But that was my most extreme case of purple-ness, including the wheels that were on the car all the time.

(the spare wheel had definitely been used in the past, by the way, it was filthy when I first looked at it after buying the car. I spent ages cleaning it before I did that few days of cleaning the Rav as a whole)

OK, I give up :pac:

Curran

It may have been filthy, but probably didnt see a whole lot of time fitted to the car!!
Could have been put on, used for a day or two in bad weather and never cleaned when put back on the back, and dirt was baked in!!

My brothers car hasnt been cleaned in ages, and the front wheels are caked in brake dust. If I get a chance, I'll use Iron Cleanse on them at the weekend and take pics of the reaction at 1:1 and at 1:3

Ded_Zebra

Curran wrote: »

There's no harm, but its a case of diminisihing returns putting on more and more coats. 2 or 3 is generally enough. And the 3rd would be more a case of ensuring that you've got 100% coverage, as you'll generally miss a few small areas doing each coat.

OK thanks for that, I think I'll put 1 more on though

Now I'm off to clean 3 more wheels in the rain

bazery

Quick question I'm trying to pick up tar cleanse and collinite 476. Where are ye getting them from? I've only just started getting the detailing itch

vectra

bazery wrote: »

Quick question I'm trying to pick up tar cleanse and collinite 476. Where are ye getting them from? I've only just started getting the detailing itch

Right here.
And welcome.

Tar Cleanse

Collinite 476

The_Pretender

I'm thinking of getting Collinite 845 as I'm hoping to get a a DA polisher, and I could apply it fairly easily by sticking an applicator on the polisher yes?

That would be my main reason for choosing the liquid wax, along with the good things I've heard about it. But what do you guys do? I'm thinking of Pete's 53 and Collinite 476 as well if they're any better?

Curran

Well you wont be able to attach an applicator to the polisher, but you will be able to get a pad soft enough to do the job....but I wouldnt use a machine to apply anything, unless you've done the correct prepartation; mainly de-tar and claying.

Pete's 53 is a very nice wax, especially on darker colours. Collinite 476s is a very durable wax, a little harder to work with than Pete's 53, but great value for money. If you are going for the 845, it will be best to go with 476s to layer it...if that is your plan, rather than the 845 and Pete's 53. Something like JetSeal109 would be ideal for layering with Pete's 53.

MetzgerMeister

Collinite 845 is a lot easier to apply and buff off as it's a liquid compared to 476S which is a paste. If you wanted to use your D/A to apply 845, you should use the black (finishing) pad at a speed of no more than 3. All you need to do is take the work out of applying by hand so there's no need to have it at a higher speed, lower it if anything.

Also, don't smother the pad in the stuff, a little goes a long way with this so only apply more when you're sure it needs it otherwise it will just create excess which is nothing but waste. Thin coats all the way, not thick

JAMES VTI S

The_Pretender wrote: »

I'm thinking of getting Collinite 845 as I'm hoping to get a a DA polisher, and I could apply it fairly easily by sticking an applicator on the polisher yes?

All you need to know about this wax is right here

bazery

Cheers lads. Great forum. Can't wait until I have some time on my hands

stimpson

I don't see why everyone says 476 is hard to apply. If it is then you're using too much.

You just give the applicator a light twist in the tin and that should be enough to give the thinnest of coatings on about a square foot. I was sceptical the first time I did it as I figured there is no way such a thin coat will do anything, but once it was buffed it looked great.

Working like that it's very easy to use and you can cover the car very quickly.

MetzgerMeister

JAMES VTI S wrote: »

All you need to know about this wax is right here

That's a great read!

JAMES VTI S

Very easy to use, i think the lads are saying 845 is easier

JAMES VTI S

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

That's a great read!

It's the best

vectra

Never tried 476 but I love the ease of use and results from 845.
I always go back to it no matter what i buy.

MetzgerMeister

vectra wrote: »

Never tried 476 but I love the ease of use and results from 845.
I always go back to it no matter what i buy.

Did you have to do all that messing with the water and sun to get 845 to the correct consistency? I've only used 476 and even though I love it, I find it can be tough to buff off even after making sure to apply in the thinest of layers.

vectra

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Did you have to do all that messing with the water and sun to get 845 to the correct consistency? I've only used 476 and even though I love it, I find it can be tough to buff off even after making sure to apply in the thinest of layers.

Pre-mixed boss
Easy on~Easy off..
No mess~No Fuss :pac:

MetzgerMeister

vectra wrote: »

Pre-mixed boss
Easy on~Easy off..
No mess~No Fuss :pac:

Yeah but did you read the link James posted?

vectra

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Yeah but did you read the link James posted?

Guilty of not reading it.

** EDIT **

Just took a read of it there.
Almost exactly as i do it myself, Except when I put it in warm water I transfer some in to as sample size flip top bottle.

stimpson

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

I've only used 476 and even though I love it, I find it can be tough to buff off even after making sure to apply in the thinest of layers.

And to think last week you were calling me a pussy... :pac:

MetzgerMeister

stimpson wrote: »

And to think last week you were calling me a pussy... :pac:

Indeed! There's a huge difference between something being tough to buff off and something "being a bit easier on the arms" :P

stimpson

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Indeed! There's a huge difference between something being tough to buff off and something "being a bit easier on the arms" :P

Was the little layer of wax too much for you???

Seriously, a squirt of QD helps with removing excess wax.

MetzgerMeister

stimpson wrote: »

Was the little layer of wax too much for you???

Seriously, a squirt of QD helps with removing excess wax.

LOL it had become more than a little layer :P

I find that especially with Collie 476, using QD only makes it worse and makes the cloth sticky and useless.

JAMES VTI S

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

I've only used 476 and even though I love it, I find it can be tough to buff off even after making sure to apply in the thinest of layers.

MetzgerMeister

Think about this, you swirl the applicator pad on the top of the paste and very often it can build up to thick on the area that you start with. Don't try to tell me that it's never happened anyone that has used 476 because the truth is, it has happened us all :P

And yes, I do lift





I'll lift your head off your shoulders with a box :pac:

stimpson

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Think about this, you swirl the applicator pad on the top of the paste and very often it can build up to thick on the area that you start with. Don't try to tell me that it's never happened anyone that has used 476 because the truth is, it has happened us all :P

I'd say you're using too much wax. When you think there isn't enough on the applicator it's probably just about right.

MetzgerMeister

stimpson wrote: »

I'd say you're using too much wax. When you think there isn't enough on the applicator it's probably just about right.

I'm talking about when I first started using 476, I haven't used it since the god that is Gtechniq came into my life

JAMES VTI S

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

I'll lift your head off your shoulders with a box :pac:

Ye junkies b****rd ye

Ded_Zebra

Today I finished the car :D:D

So I started today by cleaning the other 3 wheels. I didn't put any more EGP on the body, just left it at the 3 coats.:)
I then hoovered the interior and gave the seats a quick wash. To wash the seats I dissolved a bit of normal washing powder for clothes etc in a spray bottle. Spray the detergent onto the seats. Quick rub with an interior brush, hoover off. I have a Lidl wet and dry hoover which comes in handy! I didn't take any pictures of this because I'm sure that you've all seen hoovering before :P:P
I took a bit of extra care cleaning the steering wheel. Over time the red stitching had collected a lot of dirt and had lost it's bright red colour and when you looked closely you could see the dirt ground into it.

Before



After



The next thing after that was to apply back to black to all the exterior trim including the wiper arms, window rubbers, door and boot seals and various other pieces of trim.

BLAAAAAAAAKKK


















And then finally it was done! Here's the after pictures you've been waiting for!!!!














And it was dark :P. Proper after photos tomorrow folks

Curran

Be sure to post "proper" after shots tomorrow, or when there's a break in the weather......probably need a wash again when that comes about!

JAMES VTI S

Steam on the steering wheel stitching ;-)

Ded_Zebra

Curran wrote: »

Be sure to post "proper" after shots tomorrow, or when there's a break in the weather......probably need a wash again when that comes about!

Will do!

JAMES VTI S wrote: »

Steam on the steering wheel stitching ;-)

I don't have a steam cleaner so I just used a bit of APC and a brush. Still came out well

MetzgerMeister

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

OK, I give up :pac:

That was the general consensus at the time, too.

Maybe I'm just being a bit hard on the previous owner - Perhaps he was detailer-mad and iron cleansed it before I got it :pac:

Ded_Zebra

Here's some better afters, some with the over night dew/rain on it and some after a drive. Unfortunatly when I was out driving I curbed a wheel and the exhaust fell off…. You just can't win :rolleyes:







After the drive

stimpson

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

This needs to go on the Beadophiles thread

vectra

^ Great job.

JAMES VTI S

Nice to see a minded jap sports car for a change.

Ded_Zebra

JAMES VTI S wrote: »

Nice to see a minded jap sports car for a change.

Thanks man

I should be able to repair the wheel tomorrow and the mechanic is getting in an exhaust mount so that should be done this week

JAMES VTI S

I respect a person when they keep the car as it should be, modding is good but to a point big stupid wheels, low to the ground, camber to the sky ECT ECT ECT ......... it's so boaring

The same recipe again and again and again on and on and on, why make a car into something it's not and never will be.

Keeping it real

Curran

Fair play Sean.

Seen the car when Sean picked up a few bits and I agree, its a very nice one. Very tidy for the age/mileage!

Keep it up!

bazery

Nice n clean Fair play.

I have a cheap rotary buffer. What are yer opinions on them. I'm thinking of using it to buff off the collinite 476. Or are these rotary buffers a no go

Curran

Thats literally all they're able to do; buffing....but to be honest, they're that big an clumsy that they're not worth the hassle.

JAMES VTI S

bazery wrote: »

I'm thinking of using it to buff off the collinite 476.

Why oh why would you use anything other the a microfiber cloth to rub clean 476 ....

Is someone taking the p!$$ :pac: