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PC build for around €650

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    #32
    BloodBath
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    Why are you reducing the cpu and / or monitor? The 6300 cpu is a 3 core / 6 thread cpu. Games aren't even using that many threads yet so it has room to improve and multi tasking is definitely not a problem. You will see 0 increase in gaming performance from a 6300 to an 8320 atm.

    The card I linked is a lot better than that 7850 which is only 1gb. You want a 2gb card for 1080p. It also has nearly 50% more stream processors and compute units. At the same clock speeds it should outperform the 7850 by quite a bit.

    IPS panels have better color reproduction and better viewing angles than TN panels.

    IPS vs TN


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    #33
    tuxy
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    BloodBath wrote: »
    It also has nearly 50% more stream processors and compute units.

    Isn't it exactly 25% more stream processors? 1024 - 1280 ?


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    #34
    BloodBath
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    That's a normal 7870. The one I listed is the tahiti edition which has 1536.


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    #35
    tuxy
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    I see, I just read the specs from hardwareversand.de, they must have made a mistake.


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    #36
    TheFlidKid
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    I am trying to get a good balance between everyday performance and gaming, I'm not looking to play the latest games on the best settings, I can settle for medium settings. All I care about while gaming is if it's playable


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    #37
    BloodBath
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    Everyday performance? You do realise standard pc use takes practically no cpu power at all. A 6300 is more than powerful enough for everyday use. It has 6 reasonably fast threads. The rig I listed is well balanced. You are tipping the balance towards a cpu that will make 0 difference to your pc experience while sacrificing your game experience.


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    #38
    tuxy
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    What do you mean by everyday performance? Have you use demanding applications apart from gaming?


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    #39
    TheFlidKid
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    tuxy wrote: »
    What do you mean by everyday performance? Have you use demanding applications apart from gaming?

    I can see I'm making no sense at all, I'm gonna go with bloodbaths build. Would I be able to run a minecraft server and run minecraft at the same time?


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    #40
    TheFlidKid
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭TheFlidKid


    one more question: would I need to overclock the fx 6300 to run the games I mentioned?


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    #41
    Gumbi
    Registered Users Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    TheFlidKid wrote: »
    one more question: would I need to overclock the fx 6300 to run the games I mentioned?

    Nope, but overclocking will improve FPS noticeably in some games, not at all in other games, and definitely in the future.


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    #42
    TheFlidKid
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭TheFlidKid


    Cool, I was just wondering if I had to buy an aftermarket heat sink


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    #43
    Gumbi
    Registered Users Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    TheFlidKid wrote: »
    Cool, I was just wondering if I had to buy an aftermarket heat sink

    I would do that, but there's no rush if you're on a budget. An aftermarket cooler is quieter, and allows you to OC a lot higher than a stock cooler.


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    #44
    TheFlidKid
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭TheFlidKid


    should I save up and get an air cooler or save up a bit longer and get a liquid cooler like http://www.hardwareversand.de/Intel+AMD/49515/Antec+K%C3%BChler+H2O+620.article Does liquid cooling really make much of a difference?


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    #45
    Gumbi
    Registered Users Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    TheFlidKid wrote: »
    should I save up and get an air cooler or save up a bit longer and get a liquid cooler like http://www.hardwareversand.de/Intel+AMD/49515/Antec+K%C3%BChler+H2O+620.article Does liquid cooling really make much of a difference?

    Not much point going that route on a mid-range CPU.


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    #46
    TheFlidKid
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭TheFlidKid


    So you would recommend I upgrade to the fx 8350 before doing something like that?


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    #47
    Gumbi
    Registered Users Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    TheFlidKid wrote: »
    So you would recommend I upgrade to the fx 8350 before doing something like that?

    Erm. Well it depends. Unless you're doing a custom loop, high end air coolers match warter cooling (or even beat it) in performance.

    A Hyper 212 will net you almost the same overclocks and be just a little louder than water cooling.


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    #48
    TheFlidKid
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭TheFlidKid


    Thanks a million man I really appreciate it :)


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    #49
    TheFlidKid
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭TheFlidKid


    I just realised that the monitor that bloodbath recommended comes with a German plug


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    #50
    TheFlidKid
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭TheFlidKid


    What plug would I need to run the monitor?


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    #51
    Gumbi
    Registered Users Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    TheFlidKid wrote: »
    What plug would I need to run the monitor?

    Standard kettle lead. Or get a 2 pin adapter. Buying a new lead is the cheaper option. 3 quid or less in any electrical/hardware store.


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    #52
    TheFlidKid
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭TheFlidKid


    This doesn't use a kettle lead like I had thought http://www.hardwareversand.de/resource?articleId=82838&size=2&index=7 its the one to the furthest left


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    #53
    TheFlidKid
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭TheFlidKid


    Hi I just found out I am able to get a job for around two weeks and will be getting around 300 euro but I am only willing to spend around half of that on the computer so I have an extra 150 euro to spend, any suggestions?


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