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Prolife Campaign on Protection of Life in Pregnancy Bill Superthread

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    #62
    rainbow kirby
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    Youth Defence parking a truck outside the Dublin Rape Crisis Centre with a large anti-choice poster on it.


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    #63
    Gbear
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    There's simply no way these people are that utterly devoid of humanity.
    They're not evil. They're just ****ing insane.

    "The ends justify the means" leads to some pretty horrible behaviour.

    Of course lying and bringing more misery on rape victims is justified - it's all to protect the wee babbies.


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    #64
    conorhal
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    It's low, but it's no lower then using a tragic case of medical negligence to push an agenda.


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    #65
    Laneyh
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    errlloyd wrote: »
    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/06/27/opposite-the-dublin-rape-crisis-centre/?fb_source

    Has anyone got an ad truck I can borrow, need to place some pictures of men kissing outside the IONA institute.

    While you're there could you just drive the truck into the IONA institute


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    #66
    Leftist
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    horrific animals. They are an appalling disgrace to the country.


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    #67
    Dravokivich
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    In a way they've kind of got a point though. Shít way of saying it and a completely insensitive place to put a poster for it.


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    #68
    who is this
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    pharmaton wrote: »
    thanks for clarifying that for us.

    That amazing use of sarcasm sure showed me.

    A man obviously can't understand what it's like to miscarry, because he can't carry in the first place. But there is a difference between having/losing and carry/miscarrying.


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    #69
    kneemos
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    In a way they've kind of got a point though. Shít way of saying it and a completely insensitive place to put a poster for it.

    Doubt It will make little or any difference to mothers or babies.


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    #70
    Dravokivich
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    kneemos wrote: »
    Doubt It will make little or any difference to mothers or babies.

    What they are saying though, is more needs to be done to protect from rape. As I said above, it's a shíte way of saying it and an insensitive way of doing so.


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    #71
    Pumpkinseeds
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    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    Whats all this about people against abortion being religious, im not religious but im against murder, which abortion is.
    Thats grand Jonjo, if you have an unplanned pregnancy and you don't want an abortion fine, but no woman should be forced to carry a baby she doesn't want.


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    #72
    B0jangles
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    What they are saying though, is more needs to be done to protect from rape. As I said above, it's a shíte way of saying it and an insensitive way of doing so.

    How on earth are you interpreting that meaning from that poster?


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    #73
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    conorhal wrote: »
    It's low, but it's no lower then using a tragic case of medical negligence to push an agenda.

    You obviously didn't read the details of the Savita Inquest or you wouldn't make such a trite,inaccurate and insensitive post.
    Hard to believe that there are people low enough to defend parking that ad truck outside the RCC.


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    #74
    EyeSight
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    This morning in D2 i saw a lot of their signs had green paint thrown on them


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    #75
    Laneyh
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    What they are saying though, is more needs to be done to protect from rape. As I said above, it's a shíte way of saying it and an insensitive way of doing so.

    I don't see them saying that at all.

    Their stance would appear to be that the rape has already occured , if the woman is pregnant from this she shouldn't take it out on the unborn child.

    It's also telling the rape victim that should they choose an abortion they are a child killer

    That is far more deliberate a message than a clumsy expression of the need to keep women safe

    Their campaign has one sole objective and it has nothing to do with protecting women


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    #76
    Sergeant
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    These dangerous fanatics do absolutely nothing for people who have reservations about the legislation.


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    #77
    EuskalHerria
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    Luckily we don't live in America. These lunatics would be waving a bible with one arm and stroking a shotgun with the other.

    What sort of mindset is required that justifies this sort of action? Democracy doesn't work when mentally unstable people are allowed the same say as everyone else.


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    #78
    Clarehobo
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    EuskalHerria wrote: »
    Luckily we don't live in America. These lunatics would be waving a bible with one arm and stroking a shotgun with the other.

    In America I am sure people would have confronted them by now and had the van moved on by the police...
    Also, in America, women can choose. So America, with all it's gun nuts and bible bashers, isn't all bad.

    They should be barred from going anywhere near counselling services. These women are vulnerable and don't need catholic guilt shoite being thrown at them on top of the issues they are dealing with as a result of their assault.

    They are definitely doing themselves no favours with this type of publicity.

    I think people shouldn't deface the posters - just let them off and people will see them for what they are. Defacing posters gives them something to bang on about.


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    #79
    Dravokivich
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    Laneyh wrote: »
    I don't see them saying that at all.

    Their stance would appear to be that the rape has already occured , if the woman is pregnant from this she shouldn't take it out on the unborn child.

    It's also telling the rape victim that should they chose an abortion they are a child killer

    That is far more deliberate a message than a clumsy expression of the need to keep women safe

    Their campaign has one sole objective and it has nothing to do with protecting women

    That's exactly the point. They are saying "Why has the child to suffer, because we couldn't protect the woman?"


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    #80
    ibarelycare
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    EyeSight wrote: »
    This morning in D2 i saw a lot of their signs had green paint thrown on them

    Yeah I saw the same on Dorset Street at the weekend.





    I was so angry when I saw this on broadsheet.ie. Pure and utter scum :mad:


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    #81
    kneemos
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    Can anyone explain the purpose of these posters?


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    #82
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    That's exactly the point. They are saying "Why has the child to suffer, because we couldn't protect the woman?"

    then why not just say that, and why maliciously park outside the RCC, they can only have intended to cause further distress to victims of sexual abuse. Of course if they had their way (as their leader in this country once had) victims of sexual abuse would be forced to swear an oath of secrecy to protect the abuser.
    these scum care feck all for women, lets not pretend that they do!


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    #83
    mikom
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    Crazies making the sane people seem saner to those on the fence.
    Keep it up you bead rattlers.


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    #84
    seenitall
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    That's exactly the point. They are saying "Why has the child to suffer, because we couldn't protect the woman?"

    Which again, has zero to do with keeping women safe.

    So no, they don't have a point in anyway related to the RCC.


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    #85
    pharmaton
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    who is this wrote: »
    That amazing use of sarcasm sure showed me.

    A man obviously can't understand what it's like to miscarry, because he can't carry in the first place. But there is a difference between having/losing and carry/miscarrying.

    Thanks for the mansplaination I'd never have figured it out otherwise.


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    #86
    Dravokivich
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    You all realise I'm not defending them right?

    All I said was they've got a point, but put it out wrong for fúck sake.

    Calm down.


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    #87
    seenitall
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    I'm calm. :)

    I just disagree with you.


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    #88
    o1s1n
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    Master of the Universe


    pharmaton wrote: »
    Thanks for the mansplaination I'd never have figured it out otherwise.

    These feminist buzz words make you sound like you're in a cult. Just so you know.


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    #89
    conorhal
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    Old and grey wrote: »
    then why not just say that, and why maliciously park outside the RCC, they can only have intended to cause further distress to victims of sexual abuse. Of course if they had their way (as their leader in this country once had) victims of sexual abuse would be forced to sweat an oath of secrecy to protect the abuser.
    these scum care feck all for women, lets not pretend that they do!

    I'm an athiest and pro-life? Where do I fit in to your tiresome tirade?



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    #90
    hfallada
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    I think fundamental Christians are the worst in the US. Most abortion clinics are hidden and have some of the toughest security systems as they are constantly bombed. One abortion doctor has been shot and almost killed 3 times. The last guys that did used the defense that if the doctor was killed "he was doing gods work".


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    #91
    ash23
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    kneemos wrote: »
    Don't think what they say is incorrect,if the mothers life is at risk there can't be a time limit.


    Oh no...so I had an abortion? Because at 37 weeks my life was in danger and they gave me a c-section? Damn....and they told me I was induced. And my healthy, now ten year old child was actually aborted?


    Not to point out the obvious but when the child can survive outside of the womb and the mothers life is at risk, it's not abortion to deliver the child early/prematurely.
    At a certain point in the pregnancy, the pregnancy is viable and there is no question of not delivering the baby to save the mother (such as in my own case).

    The bill is there to legislate for what happens very early on in the pregnancy when the foetus has no chance of survival outside of the womb and the mothers life is at risk.

    They are two totally separate things. And anyone with half a brain can figure it out to be honest.


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