dumb test question

serious3 · 28-06-2013 12:09am #1

i have my test next week, they will ask me questions on rules of the road but is it just on the motorcycle section they base them on or general stuff like road signs and what to do at box junctions etc?

P.K.M. · 28-06-2013 1:49am

No such thing as a dumb question. The questions will be mainly geared towards bikes as it's the bike test you're doing, but as you will be on a public road, you will need to know the general stuff too. Road signs apply to cars, bikes, trucks....so you'll need to know them all.

Wossack · 28-06-2013 8:35am

tis pretty much the cage test with extra bike bits iirc

"give 5 scenarios whereby a motorcycle may lose traction" I think was one I got (for example)

serious3 · 28-06-2013 9:39am

better brush up on the whole lot then! most of it will be reasonbly obvious to me(i reckon) as i'm driving a cgae for 25yrs and trucks the past 12 thanks lads!

paddy147 · 28-06-2013 2:24pm

Wossack wrote: »

tis pretty much the cage test with extra bike bits iirc

"give 5 scenarios whereby a motorcycle may lose traction" I think was one I got (for example)

Can I ask this of you.....

Where does the term "cage" come from when you and other posters are refering to a car???

Honest question here.

Why does any reference to a car need to be typed as a "cage"?

Thanks.:)

pa990 · 28-06-2013 2:57pm

paddy147 wrote: »

Can I ask this of you.....

Where does the term "cage" come from when you and other posters are refering to a car???

Cage as in you are surrounded by metal bars, ie the pillars in the car

paddy147 wrote: »

Honest question here.

Why does any reference to a car need to be typed as a "cage"?

Thanks.:)

Not so much here, but another forum (bunch of d|ck's) will ban you if you make any mention of anything other than a bike.
So mentioning car or truck etc will get you banned.
People use it here as a force of habit

paddy147 · 28-06-2013 3:24pm

pa990 wrote: »

Cage as in you are surrounded by metal bars, ie the pillars in the car

Not so much here, but another forum (bunch of d|ck's) will ban you if you make any mention of anything other than a bike.
So mentioning car or truck etc will get you banned.
People use it here as a force of habit

Oh I know all about that particular motorbike site allright.
Never seen so many people use the term "cage" or "cager" in such a rude/abusive manner before.:eek::(

I was one of those people who was banned from it for talking about motorcyclists who are also into cars and motorsport in general.

Think I lasted around 2 weeks on that site.:pac::D

serious3 · 28-06-2013 3:42pm

i think i know what site you mean..... i lasted about a week and deleted my own account! sorry about the cage term it won't happen again

paddy147 · 28-06-2013 3:46pm

serious3 wrote: »

i think i know what site you mean..... i lasted about a week and deleted my own account! sorry about the cage term it won't happen again

Dont say sorry,no need to.

Im not having a go at anyone here.

I was just curious as to how the term "cage" came about and why its used so much....(certain other site mainly..:pac:).

Thats all.:)

Del2005 · 28-06-2013 3:55pm

paddy147 wrote: »

Dont say sorry,no need to.

Im not having a go at anyone here.

I was just curious as to how the term "cage" came about and why its used so much....(certain other site mainly..:pac:).

Thats all.:)

It may have come from another site but it sums up some car drivers attitude when on the road. They are in a large metal cage that protects them from all danger, so they don't need to worry about driving safely.

paddy147 · 28-06-2013 3:58pm

Del2005 wrote: »

It may have come from another site but it sums up some car drivers attitude when on the road. They are in a large metal cage that protects them from all danger, so they don't need to worry about driving safely.

You could also apply that to some motorbikers too,who think because they are on 2 wheels and have a bit of power between their legs,that they can just race off down the road and fly through traffic and fly around corners at stupid speeds.

So it cuts both ways really.:)

paddy147 · 28-06-2013 4:00pm

Anyway,Im taking away from the OP and the question in hand.

Appoligies to the OP.:)

Thanks.

paddy147 · 28-06-2013 4:02pm

serious3 wrote: »

i have my test next week, they will ask me questions on rules of the road but is it just on the motorcycle section they base them on or general stuff like road signs and what to do at box junctions etc?

Yep random questions like what does a particular road sign mean....(warning and roadworks signs are important here too)

Whats the maximum speed limit on a motorway.

What do you do at a particular road junction.

If a garda makes a particular sign at you with his/her hand..what does it mean??

Its usualy 5 quick questions to you,while you are sitting at the testers desk,and then you head off out to your bike with the tester.

He will then ask you a few questions about your bike and what to look for on the bike and how to check things on the bike.

You will probably be asked the minimum thread depth for a bike tyre...(its 1mm).

Then its off on the bike and the bike test route.

RosieJoe · 28-06-2013 9:48pm

Learn your hand signals too, just in case

buzzard · 28-06-2013 10:11pm

If you have to ask the dumb question about roadsigns and the "cage" type questions then you will need to know about your primary and secondary controls on the motorbike...

Have you actually done a pre-test with a qualfied instructor?

serious3 · 28-06-2013 10:23pm

buzzard wrote: »

If you have to ask the dumb question about roadsigns and the "cage" type questions then you will need to know about your primary and secondary controls on the motorbike...

i asked the question because i wasn't sure if the questions asked would be bike specific like the theory test! you take your theory test in the category you apply for be it truck, bike or car so forgive me for thinking that the test would be the same.
anyway i better go out and see if i can work out what my primary and secondary controls are or maybe you could enlighten me o' wise one

paddy147 · 28-06-2013 10:36pm

serious3 wrote: »

i asked the question because i wasn't sure if the questions asked would be bike specific like the theory test! you take your theory test in the category you apply for be it truck, bike or car so forgive me for thinking that the test would be the same.
anyway i better go out and see if i can work out what my primary and secondary controls are or maybe you could enlighten me o' wise one

I know,I feel your pain here.......

Just make sure you know where the "any key" is...That will start the bike up for you...:pac::D

buzzard · 28-06-2013 10:54pm

serious3 wrote: »

i asked the question because i wasn't sure if the questions asked would be bike specific like the theory test! you take your theory test in the category you apply for be it truck, bike or car so forgive me for thinking that the test would be the same.
anyway i better go out and see if i can work out what my primary and secondary controls are or maybe you could enlighten me o' wise one

I would suggest that you get pre-test lessons as if you can't answer the basic questions you have'nt got a hope of passing....

serious3 · 28-06-2013 11:05pm

hard enough for newbies getting a licence without people putting them down and knocking the fact they ask questions. would you rather i fail and then bitch all day on here that the testers are arseholes and i'm the greatest rider around? all i wondered was it just the motorcycle specific questions i would be asked as i don't see how knowing the maximum speed permissible for a single decker bus carrying standing passengers has any bearing on a motorcyle test.

paddy147 · 28-06-2013 11:10pm

buzzard wrote: »

I would suggest that you get pre-test lessons as if you can't answer the basic questions you have'nt got a hope of passing....

You could lighten up perhaps and not start getting stuck into people who use the forum to ask a simple/honest question.

Your attitude towards Serious3 is........

paddy147 · 28-06-2013 11:43pm

serious3 wrote: »

hard enough for newbies getting a licence without people putting them down and knocking the fact they ask questions. would you rather i fail and then bitch all day on here that the testers are arseholes and i'm the greatest rider around? all i wondered was it just the motorcycle specific questions i would be asked as i don't see how knowing the maximum speed permissible for a single decker bus carrying standing passengers has any bearing on a motorcyle test.

It,ll be a double decker bus.....:pac::D

Listen,dont worry about it and dont let other people get under your skin.

No harm at all in posting and asking the question here on this forum....(thats what its for afterall).

Lots people here willing and able to help you (as per the posts on previous page),without feeling the need for putting you down or making you feel like you cant ask a question.

Best of luck with it.

Take care my friend and happy biking too.:)

LookBehindYou · 29-06-2013 1:21am

You may be asked to explain a few road signs, which will be shown to you by the tester before you go out.
Pedestrian zone sign.
Where would you find 2 red flashing lights.
etc.
Outside you will be asked about your bike.
P.O.W.D.E.R check.
Tension on chain and where to adjust.
etc.

Make sure to bring the log book of the bike with you, and any restriction cert dated within the past 2 years(if any needed)
Learner permit in date.
IBT cert (if needed)
Tax disc.

On the test, make progress (do not ride too slow)
etc

serious3 · 29-06-2013 8:58am

better make sure i pass, i'll never live it down with buzzard otherwise:P

paddy147 · 02-07-2013 8:04pm

serious3 wrote: »

better make sure i pass, i'll never live it down with buzzard otherwise:P

Well you passed 1st time around in the pi55ing rain and you did it for yourself too.

Well done indeed.:D

buzzard · 05-07-2013 10:59am

serious3 wrote: »

better make sure i pass, i'll never live it down with buzzard otherwise:P

Apologies if you felt hard done by but I was just been honest. The amount of people that fail to prepare for their test is staggering.

The old saying is "fail to prepare, prepare to fail". The test is expensive enough and an investment in a pre-test is always worthwhile and your original question indicated that you didn't do any pre-test.

If if not too late, your primary controls are brake and clutch levers, accelerator and gear lever. Secondary controls are your switches ie lights, horn, indicator etc

Questions in the centre will focus on the ROTR and later the tester will ask questions about the bike

What is POWDER
How do you check & tighten the chain
How do you check the oil

Remember when doing the test - Lifesaver, Lifesaver, Lifesaver. It's amazing how many people fail because of the lack of lifesavers.

Any way, best of luck in your test and my advice is to be well prepared.

Wossack · 05-07-2013 12:00pm

buzzard wrote: »

..
Remember when doing the test - Lifesaver, Lifesaver, Lifesaver. It's amazing how many people fail because of the lack of lifesavers.

I nearly failed mine cause I did too many hah.. he thought it unnecessary that I did two when turning left (once to position in lane ahead of the junction, and again to make the turn). Conceed that its not entirely necessary compared to right turns, but geez, one more left turn woulda done it for me - thankfully it was a right turn into the test centre

dumb test question

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