Would you support the reintroduction of the death penalty?

Jimmy Garlic

I would but only in circumstances where it would be appropriate and if the sentence was carried out quickly (within 12 months). I think the death penalty for some crimes is necessary, eg, premeditated murder, serial rape, child abuse. Who agrees with me?

Bannasidhe

No.

Death is too kind for some crimes.

SV

Yes but only in extreme cases.

I am pie

I could not disagree more strongly. It should never be re-introduced.

**Vai**

Seems a good way to cull the human population....I'm in!

I don't think there is a better punishment for murder, rape or child abuse.

jimgoose

I used to think the death penalty was a good idea, until it occurred to me that an even better punishment is forcible removal from society in such a way that the convict is fully aware of it for as long as possible. That is, maximum security solitary, for life. Meaning "life".

endacl

No. Just no.

JessePinkman

SV wrote: »

Yes but only in extreme cases.

I Honestly think anyone who commits crimes such as the Jill Meagher,Nicola Furlong cases deserves to die,Locking them up for 40 years is not enough punishment

looking_around

And what about those who are innocent? There have been many cases where everything proved they were guilty only for years later to be found innocent.
At least if they're alive, they can get some thing of their life back.

Also death penalty mostly punishes family of the criminal. Death is merely and end,.. not a punishment. They should be worked, and hard.

uch

Only for people who try skipping their Round

looking_around

jimgoose wrote: »

I used to think the death penalty was a good idea, until it occurred to me that an even better punishment is forcible removal from society in such a way that the convict is fully aware of it for as long as possible. That is, maximum security solitary, for life. Meaning "life".

It's been proven that even short term solitary will make people insane, meaning which, they no longer feel the "loss". They just become totally crazy/insensible. Not really the way to go with things either.

Lenin Skynard

No.

jimgoose

looking_around wrote: »

It's been proven that even short term solitary will make people insane, meaning which, they no longer feel the "loss". They just become totally crazy/insensible. Not really the way to go with things either.

I'm sure the technique could be suitably refined.

con___manx1

castration for child abusers followed by death 1 year from sentence.

Captain Chaos

Bannasidhe wrote: »

No.

Death is too kind for some crimes.

As apposed to being let out early for good behaviour and suspended sentences. Then the amount of reoffenders and the ones that do so while on bail.

SV

JessePinkman wrote: »

I Honestly think anyone who commits crimes such as the Jill Meagher,Nicola Furlong cases deserves to die,Locking them up for 40 years is not enough punishment

I would view those as extreme cases.

Manach

With a measure of real reluctant, no - not in times of peace.

**Vai**

Bannasidhe wrote: »

No.

Death is too kind for some crimes.

Ive heard people say that over the years but I don't get it. What worse punishment is there than to take someones life? Is there anything more important in the grand scheme of things than your life(please nobody say my kids life or my dogs life etc)? Without it you have nothing.

SV wrote: »

I would view those as extreme cases.

Death penalty should only be for extreme cases. Define extreme though I suppose.

The Backwards Man

Is it Friday already? That week went in quick, didn't it?

looking_around

**Vai** wrote: »

Ive heard people say that over the years but I don't get it. What worse punishment is there than to take someones life? Is there anything more important in the grand scheme of things than your life(please nobody say my kids life or my dogs life etc)? Without it you have nothing.

Because once you die, you no longer experience anything. You're longer left in pain/uncomfortable/constantly remembering why you're in prison etc.

T-Maxx

Yes.

Nothing else seems to serve as a deterrent for some "people" it seems.

Hoop66

Jaysus, the revenge fantasy one-handed-typists are out in force today.

"Bring back the death penalty!" "In fact, make it compulsory for everyone!"

If, as a society, we resort to killing people we are not fit to call ourselves civillised.

frank reynolds

maybe they could consider a life sentence meaning a life sentence. this country is horrible. a murderer will serve a "life" sentence of what - 8 years is it? so thats probably, in reality about 5-6 years... for MURDER....

ridiculous kip.

no wonder crime is high - the criminals are not afraid because they KNOW that they wont be missing out on much of their lives by being locked up with their friends with playstations and free food and board for a couple of years.

so actually, i DO think they should bring it back in... for murder or child rape etc...

vicwatson

Thread needs a polllllllll

My answer - Yes !

SV

Hoop66 wrote: »

If, as a society, we resort to killing people we are not fit to call ourselves civillised.

When people cross that line and do a monstrous thing they give up their rights to be treated as equals.

T-Maxx

Hoop66 wrote: »

Jaysus, the revenge fantasy one-handed-typists are out in force today.

"Bring back the death penalty!" "In fact, make it compulsory for everyone!"

If, as a society, we resort to killing people we are not fit to call ourselves civillised.

Maybe you should familiarize yourself with what's going on in the world.

blackwhite

Life sentences which actually do what they say on the tin are what's needed.

I could only ever support the death penalty if there was an infallible justice system.

The idea that a wrongly convicted person could be executed is enough for me to feel the death penalty wouldn't work.

amazingemmet

Yes but only for persistent low level offenders

super_furry

No. Innocent people will be killed.

jimgoose

Hoop66 wrote: »

...If, as a society, we resort to killing people we are not fit to call ourselves civillised.

Quite so indeed. Someone should explain that to the HSE.

Corkfeen

**Vai** wrote: »

Ive heard people say that over the years but I don't get it. What worse punishment is there than to take someones life? Is there anything more important in the grand scheme of things than your life(please nobody say my kids life or my dogs life etc)? Without it you have nothing.



Death penalty should only be for extreme cases. Define extreme though I suppose.

Death in itself is a rather a quick event. Being imprisoned for a long length of time can easily be a far more horrible event.

The death penalty is expensive, can send innocent people to their death and isn't considered an effective deterrent.

Matt_Trakker

Bring back ball & chain gangs & make them dig ditches and clean streets and dig graves. Then the people who've been put out of work will be made politicians.
Can be worse the the lot we've had for the last 20 odd years.

LizT

No.

I do think a life sentence should be life though, no chance of early release.

T-Maxx

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

Bring back ball & chain gangs & make them dig ditches and clean streets and dig graves. Then the people who've been put out of work will be made politicians.
Can be worse the the lot we've had for the last 20 odd years.

Yawn.

Why does every second post in AH have to include some lame reference to politicians?

TheFOB

YES!! For particular heinous cases like Larry Murphy, the Omagh bombers, premeditated murder etc.

I'd also force castrations on convicted rapists and child abusers.

Matt_Trakker

T-Maxx wrote: »

Yawn.

Stop boring people.

bumper234

jimgoose wrote: »

I used to think the death penalty was a good idea, until it occurred to me that an even better punishment is forcible removal from society in such a way that the convict is fully aware of it for as long as possible. That is, maximum security solitary, for life. Meaning "life".

Yeah but they shouldn't have access to TV, Play stations, Menu choice of meals.

Build a super prison like we were supposed to, 10,000 Single concrete cells and lock them up 24/7. No TV, No computers, No menus choice of meals. They should get basic rations and books to read and if this means they are going to go mentally insane then that's fine by me...you shouldn't have commited murder.

Also
if you kill a guard = death penalty,
Kill a child = death penalty
Rape = castration

Sir Humphrey Appleby

In before the:
"Isn't the Government introducing the death penalty for all the unborn babies" brigade.

el dude

looking_around wrote: »

Because once you die, you no longer experience anything. You're longer left in pain/uncomfortable/constantly remembering why you're in prison etc.

Get to read, watch tv, exercise etc. The idea that prisons are these uninhabitable hell holes that make living a torturous experience is just what people tell themselves.

Given the choice, could anyone honestly say they'd rather die than live in a cell for the rest of their life? Prison is ****ty, but it's still a faith far better than death.

Vito Corleone

JessePinkman wrote: »

I Honestly think anyone who commits crimes such as the Jill Meagher,Nicola Furlong cases deserves to die,Locking them up for 40 years is not enough punishment

Really? I know if I had the choice of 40 years in prison or death I'd choose the latter. The death penalty lets people off easy imo.

cournioni

Yes it should. It would free up prison space for those that all too often get off lightly because of prison overcrowding. We should be making Ireland safer by taking dangerous criminals off the streets rather than allowing them to continue making the average Irish peoples lives miserable with their crimes.

bumper234

Vito Corleone wrote: »

Really? I know if I had the choice of 40 years in prison or death I'd choose the latter. The death penalty lets people off easy imo.

No you would not. You say this but if it come to it you natural instinct to stay alive would kick in and you would happily do 80 years in a cell never mind 40.

cournioni

Vito Corleone wrote: »

Really? I know if I had the choice of 40 years in prison or death I'd choose the latter. The death penalty lets people off easy imo.

40 years that Irish tax payers will have to foot the bill for, all to keep a roof over a murderers/whatever else head.

who the fug

After hours answer

Yes, only if it is held in public and I get the sole rights for concessions and merchandising


Real life answer is no, except if martial has to be declared

Hagar the Nice.

**Vai** wrote: »

Seems a good way to cull the human population....I'm in!

I don't think there is a better punishment for murder, rape or child abuse.

How many innocent people have died here and abroad only for it to be found they were clearly innocent of their 'crime' years later?

looking_around

bumper234 wrote: »

No you would not. You say this but if it come to it you natural instinct to stay alive would kick in and you would happily do 80 years in a cell never mind 40.

You cant say that.
If that were the case, no one would commit suicide.

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Like I've said before, hard physical work for those in prison, but no death penalty, too much risk of innocent people being wrongly convicted.

Vito Corleone

bumper234 wrote: »

No you would not. You say this but if it come to it you natural instinct to stay alive would kick in and you would happily do 80 years in a cell never mind 40.

No, speak for yourself bumper.

Elmer Blooker

YES. anyone who refers to money as "moolah" should put up against a wall.
Ross O'Carroll Kelly should be the only one who can "moolah" and get away with it!

CruelCoin

Bannasidhe wrote: »

No.

Death is too kind for some crimes.

This.

Death is a quick way out, hardly a punishment, added to which they go out of their way to make the "punishment" as painless and peaceful as possible.

There should be normal prisons, and then there should be Venezuelan style ****holes, with food thrown in as slop, no running water, 50 to a cell, etc. etc.

Let them pish away their last in utter ****ing misery. That would be punishment.

April O Neill

No.

jobeenfitz

Hoop66 wrote: »

Jaysus, the revenge fantasy one-handed-typists are out in force today.

"Bring back the death penalty!" "In fact, make it compulsory for everyone!"

If, as a society, we resort to killing people we are not fit to call ourselves civillised.

Instead of this let murderers back out after, say ten years and maybe take some more innocent lives. I'd prefer to see murderers die than their victims.