Photo Thread

Csalem

WH 2 on the 25 today:
WH 2 College Street 03/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

Csalem

Go-Ahead Ireland 12125 on the 238:
12125 Blanchardstown Shopping Centre 05/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

Csalem

SG 223 in Blackrock on the 7A:
SG 223 Blackrock 06/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

dublinman1990

And the award for the worst looking interior goes to Volvo for their new buses going to Bus Eireann & Go-Ahead Ireland.

BonnieSituation

Are they new intercity coaches?

dublinman1990

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Are they new intercity coaches?

If Go-Ahead are taking these into their fleet. They must be their new commuter coaches for Bus Éireann's old routes.

I presume it's the same for Bus Éireann as well if they have them for their fleet.

kub

dublinman1990 wrote: »

If Go-Ahead are taking these into their fleet. They must be their new commuter coaches for Bus Éireann's old routes.

I presume it's the same for Bus Éireann as well if they have them for their fleet.

They are for both, Volvo had no involvement in the manufacturing or design of that bus, their involvement is only the mechanical side.

Stephen15

dublinman1990 wrote: »

And the award for the worst looking interior goes to Volvo for their new buses going to Bus Eireann & Go-Ahead Ireland.

I quite like them. They just look a bit different from what we're used to here look similar to a lot of the medium distance buses you'd see on the continent.

They are like a coach and city bus hybrid. It's a big improvement on regular coaches as they are low floor.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Stephen15 wrote: »

I quite like them. They just look a bit different from what we're used to here look similar to a lot of the medium distance buses you'd see on the continent.

They are like a coach and city bus hybrid. It's a big improvement on regular coaches as they are low floor.

These vehicles do not have capacity for standing due to speed limits of 100km/h (which is why they have seatbelts)

Also no buggy access. Folded buggies / folded prams ONLY

Allowing standing or unfolded buggies on these vehicles is ILLEGAL.

I cannot stress this enough as it's the same with the LD / LF fleet yet some drivers seem to be uneducated in this respect.

Stephen15

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

These vehicles do not have capacity for standing due to speed limits of 100km/h (which is why they have seatbelts)

Also no buggy access. Folded buggies / folded prams ONLY

Allowing standing or unfolded buggies on these vehicles is ILLEGAL.

I cannot stress this enough as it's the same with the LD / LF fleet yet some drivers seem to be uneducated in this respect.

They are low floor buses which meaning a wheelchair user can board on a turn up and go basis correct without the need to prebook?

How enforced are these laws as a matter of interest. Also as far as I'm aware the seatbelts are optional from the operators pov only school buses are required to have them I thought and the 100km limit was to do with standing passengers not seatbelts.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Stephen15 wrote: »

They are low floor buses which meaning a wheelchair user can board on a turn up and go basis correct without the need to prebook?

How enforced are these laws as a matter of interest. Also as far as I'm aware the seatbelts are optional from the operators pov only school buses are required to have them I thought and the 100km limit was to do with standing passengers not seatbelts.

Your first part is partially true.

The wheelchair users on these vehicles will still need to be strapped down to the coach. They are free to wheel on and park up like a city bus but still need restraints in place.

Anything over 65kmh requires seatbelts legally and cannot accommodate any standees or unfolded buggies / prams

Gardai etc are aware of these laws and also if your standing on a platform at 100kmh and have an accident, what's going to protect you ? Nothing !

punisher5112

Stephen15 wrote: »

They are low floor buses which meaning a wheelchair user can board on a turn up and go basis correct without the need to prebook?

How enforced are these laws as a matter of interest. Also as far as I'm aware the seatbelts are optional from the operators pov only school buses are required to have them I thought and the 100km limit was to do with standing passengers not seatbelts.

Must have seatbelts as they go further then 35km from base and due to speed.....

Stephen15

punisher5112 wrote: »

Must have seatbelts as they go further then 35km from base and due to speed.....

I think the law is that they can't allow standing passengers but nothing about seatbelts

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Stephen15 wrote: »

I think the law is that they can't allow standing passengers but nothing about seatbelts

Why do you think they don't allow standing ?

Because they don't have seatbelts for standing !

The law is if it goes over 65km/h, then it must have a seatbelt and seated only passengers.( Bus eireann and other coach operates that operate at higher speeds)

It's it's limited to 65km/h then it can allow standing and no need for seatbelts (Dublin bus)

It is also the law that all passengers of a vehicle must wear a safety belt while traveling on a vehicle. Yes this means bus eireann and any other operater as a passenger. Hence there is always signage to notify passengers of same thus taking the requirement from the driver to tell you to wear the safety belt.

If you are caught not wearing a safety belt on a bus you are liable to fines.

https://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Your-Vehicle/Vehicle-Standards/Components/Safety-Belts-on-Buses/

https://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Your-Vehicle/About-your-Vehicle/Example-of-non-Dup/Seat-belts--child-restraints-/

For buses
The latest regulations also say that bus drivers and bus passengers aged 3 and above must wear seat belts where they have been provided.

A person aged 14 and above is responsible for wearing their seat belt on a bus and drivers may refuse to carry a passenger who fails to wear a seat belt. The penalty for failure to comply is a fine of up to €2,000.

Bus owners are required to ensure that passengers are informed of the requirement to wear seat belts while they are seated and while the vehicle is in motion, through either an announcement, presentation, appropriate signage, etc. The penalty for failure to comply is a fine of up to €5,000; however, the vehicle owner does not commit an offence if it’s shown that he/she was unable to inform passengers of the requirement because of damage caused by vehicle users to video equipment or signage, etc., and where rectification of the damage was not practical in the circumstances.

There's a video online somewhere (looking for ages for it but can't find it) of gardai actually randomly stopping a coach on the N4 near Lucan to check the coach for passengers wearing safety belts. Maybe someone can find it !

Csalem

Three EVs taken in Dublin today.

EV 18 on the first 53A:
EV 18 Talbot Street 08/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

EV 83 on the 53A:
EV 83 Sheriff Street Upper 08/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

EV 64 on the 90 in Pride wrap:
EV 64 Custom House Quay 08/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

Csalem

LC 205 and VWD 83 on Townsend Street:
LC 205 & VWD 83 Townsend Street 08/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

RV 499 on the Big Bus tour:
RV 499 O'Connell Street 08/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

Stephen15

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Why do you think they don't allow standing ?

Because they don't have seatbelts for standing !

The law is if it goes over 65km/h, then it must have a seatbelt and seated only passengers.( Bus eireann and other coach operates that operate at higher speeds)

It's it's limited to 65km/h then it can allow standing and no need for seatbelts (Dublin bus)

It is also the law that all passengers of a vehicle must wear a safety belt while traveling on a vehicle. Yes this means bus eireann and any other operater as a passenger. Hence there is always signage to notify passengers of same thus taking the requirement from the driver to tell you to wear the safety belt.

If you are caught not wearing a safety belt on a bus you are liable to fines.

https://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Your-Vehicle/Vehicle-Standards/Components/Safety-Belts-on-Buses/

https://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Your-Vehicle/About-your-Vehicle/Example-of-non-Dup/Seat-belts--child-restraints-/

If that's the case it's a daft law and it must be a domestic law not an EU law as there's buses in the UK and on the continent that can take standing passengers and don't have seatbelts but can go over 65km. Don't see the safety risk there was a lot of ridiculous knee jerk reaction legislation that was brought about after the Kentstown crash.

For example I was on a few medium distance buses in Italy recently and they are a far more appropriate spec than anything BE have which is designed for short distance commuter work rather than long distance intercity work. The only issue I could see was they were the older ones were not low floor. They could take 55 seated and 25 standing there were handrails fitted to the overhead luggage racks. They definitely weren't limited to 65km/ph either.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Stephen15 wrote: »

If that's the case it's a daft law and it must be a domestic law not an EU law as there's buses in the UK and on the continent that can take standing passengers and don't have seatbelts but can go over 65km. Don't see the safety risk there was a lot of ridiculous knee jerk reaction legislation that was brought about after the Kentstown crash.

For example I was on a few medium distance buses in Italy recently and they are a far more appropriate spec than anything BE have which is designed for short distance commuter work rather than long distance intercity work. The only issue I could see was they were the older ones were not low floor. They could take 55 seated and 25 standing there were handrails fitted to the overhead luggage racks. They definitely weren't limited to 65km/ph either.

As a driver off these, even sitting with a seatbelt on at 100km/h it can be very likely fatal. So standing even at 80.... I wouldn't

Also you're wrong again, UK buses are limited with relation to seatbelts and not

TransLink have urby buses at the moment limited to 50MPH but they have seatbelts, as do their airport buses limited to 50MPH

Anything without safety belts is limited to 40MPH.

As for Italy - your wrong again https://ec.europa.eu/transport/road_safety/going_abroad/slovenia/speed_limits_en.htm


Also as this is a photo thread, I'm going to stop posting in it. This is a discussion for another thread.

Csalem

RML 2432 on the Gin and Tonic Tour:
RML 2432 O'Connell Bridge 13/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

11511 on the 175:
11511 Tallaght 13/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

Csalem

11583 on the 59:
11583 Dun Laoghaire 13/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

Side-view of WH 2:
WH 2 Aston Quay 13/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

tabbey

I suppose the slogan on WH2 means something about hybrid, although the image would suggest it runs on sunflower oil.

Csalem

GT 18 on the short 142:
GT 18 Bird Avenue 18/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

Csalem

Two pictures from this week.

AX 517 on the 150:
AX 517 Fleet Street 22/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

GT 18 on the 47:
GT 18 Townsend Street 22/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

Csalem

StreetLites have gone into service in Drogheda, and therefore also into service in Balbriggan.

WM 429 is the first one in service on the B1.

WM 429 Balbriggan 26/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

WM 429 Balbriggan 26/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

Stephen15

Well that's interesting seeing as both BE and GAI Streetlites on the 33a are operating in Balbriggan now

Csalem

Go-Ahead 11581 on the 45A:
11581 Dun Laoghaire 27/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

Csalem

Bus Eireann SE 54 in its wrap for Dublin GAA:
SE 54 Store Street 31/07/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

Csalem

Two buses in Dun Laoghaire today.

SG 321 on the 46A:
SG 321 Dun Laoghaire 02/08/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

11912 on the 75:
11912 Dun Laoghaire 02/08/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

Csalem

SP 78 on the 126:
SP 78 George's Quay 03/08/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

171 D 2895 on the 740:
171 D 2895 George's Quay 03/08/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

Csalem

Ulsterbus 1129 on test around Bus Aras today:
1129 Bus Aras 05/08/19 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr