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Irish riders' diaries

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  • #52
    BQQ
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    TinyExplosions wrote: »
    For a pro rider, he's average at best.

    While not at the very top level, I'd definitely say he's above average.


  • #53
    TinyExplosions
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    BQQ wrote: »
    While not at the very top level, I'd definitely say he's above average.

    A couple of stages in 2nd tier races is not above average palmares.

    A stage in the Tour de l'Avenir, one in GP Internacional Paredes Rota dos Móveis, one in the Tour du Limousin and a Stage in the Tour of Beijing are not particularly impressive results (Irish national titles notwithstanding).

    He's been in the top 10 once out of 10 starts in grand tours... I simple don't see how the expectation is there for him to be anything other than a domestique?


  • #54
    TinyExplosions
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    godtabh wrote: »
    This year with his new role people were expecting a stage win.

    Irish people were, I don't know if anyone else was. He didn't really come that close to one, except being in a brreak away for a while.


  • #55
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    TinyExplosions wrote: »
    Irish people were, I don't know if anyone else was. He didn't really come that close to one, except being in a brreak away for a while.

    Saxo wouldnt have put hom in the break if the didnt think he could


  • #56
    BQQ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭BQQ


    TinyExplosions wrote: »
    A couple of stages in 2nd tier races is not above average palmares.

    A stage in the Tour de l'Avenir, one in GP Internacional Paredes Rota dos Móveis, one in the Tour du Limousin and a Stage in the Tour of Beijing are not particularly impressive results (Irish national titles notwithstanding).

    He's been in the top 10 once out of 10 starts in grand tours... I simple don't see how the expectation is there for him to be anything other than a domestique?

    Maybe we have differing opinions on what "average" constitutes.
    I would say an average pro would never finish in the top 10 in a grand tour.

    I have little doubt, he'd have more stage wins to his name if that had been his aim.
    At AG2R he was always too high up in the G.C to get away in a break.


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