Bill to bring the clocks forward GMT+1

kraggy

OpenYourEyes wrote: »

Although would probably increase the cases of Seasonal Affective Disorder in Winter, with people seeing less daylight, no?

People would see the sun set later. So instead of getting darker at 5, it would get darker at 6. Or 7 depending on what the plan is.

bilston

awec wrote: »

Would this mean you'd have to change your watch when you cross the border?

Yep.

It's not something NI could really follow anyway as it would mean it would be dark until about 10am in the morning in December.

kraggy

bluewolf wrote: »

I was just smiling at the idea that there would suddenly be an extra hour of brightness in the world because of us fiddling with clocks!

"Ooh look, somebody changed the bulb!"

Ardeehey

Doesn't sound good to me, our main trading partners is the UK especially for services and finance....we'd be an hour out of whack with them! Currently if you service mainland Europe clients then they understand the time diff but would play havoc with the UK.

Ruudi_Mentari

kneemos wrote: »

The Brits will never give up their GMT.

Yeah but I seems we will; Cameron having spun the idea first.

The Backwards Man

It won't work unless the UK do it too.

kraggy

The Backwards Man wrote: »

It won't work unlese the UK do it too.

They've been looking in to it too.

Nemeses

Erm, has some people forgotten how timezones generally work?

http://www.timeanddate.com/time/time-zones.html

WIZE

kraggy wrote: »

No you're incorrect.

Yes they change clocks during the summer, but then it's not CET, it's CET+1.

Just like our time now isn't GMT. it's GMT +1.

Winter time in Paris is CET. summer time in Paris is CET +1.

But we wouldnt be 2 hours ahead of out current winter time . We would always be 1 hour ahead

OpenYourEyes

kraggy wrote: »

People would see the sun set later. So instead of getting darker at 5, it would get darker at 6. Or 7 depending on what the plan is.

*facepalm*

Can't believe I needed this explained to me - need more coffee!

bilston

The Backwards Man wrote: »

It won't work unless the UK do it too.

People in the south of England are in favour of it, it's Scotland, the NW of England and NI that wouldn't want it to happen. I had friends over from London at the end of May and they couldn't believe that it was still totally bright here in Belfast at 10.30, there is quite a difference between the South East of the British and Irish Isles and the North West when it comes to sunset and sunrise times.

LoLth

for business purposes... why not just change the workday to 8-4 instead of 9-5 so its the same as CET? Changing a timezone seems a bit drastic imho.

Fratton Fred

I think I can safely predict that for the majority of people, this will make absolutely **** all difference.

kraggy

WIZE wrote: »

But we wouldnt be 2 hours ahead of out current winter time . We would always be 1 hour ahead

Read my post again. I said if we go on to CET (which is same as our time now) we'd be have an hour extra in the evening in the winter BUT IF WE WERE TO CHANGE OUR clocks like they do in Europe for summer time, then we would be 2 hours ahead of our Winter time.

In summer, Europe's time is CET +1
in summer, Ireland's time is GMT +1

I.e tonight it will get fully dark in Galway at 10.30. If we changed to CET AND changed the clocks with Paris etc then it would get dark in Galway at 11.30pm. Time-wise, this is 2 hours ahead of our current GMT.

The crucial thing to remember is that there is a difference between

a: CET

and

b. being in the CET timezone

Being in the CET timezone means your time is CET in the winter, and CET +1 in the summer.

bb12

from reading the above i think a lot of people have misconceptions about exactly how much sunlight we actually get in mid winter!

currently as it stands, at mid-winter, the sun rises at 8:40am and sets at 4:10pm....

so even if we didn't go with the whole putting the hour back thing, that would mean, the sun would rise at 9:40am and set at 5:10pm...

i don't see how this would benefit anyone working in offices!! it would still be dark when going and coming home from work!

Itssoeasy

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

think of all the poor innocent children going to school that will be mown down by cars on the pitch black country roads all because this yahoo wants to use his fancy european time

Joe Duffy topic there so it is.

wexie

kraggy wrote: »

.....BUT IF WE WERE TO CHANGE OUR clocks like they do in Europe for summer time, then we would be 2 hours ahead of our Winter time.

Are you sure about this?

Our winter time changes at the same time as CET no?

I've never heard of any time period where the time difference between us and CET is 2 hours which is what you're implying?

Or am I having a blond moment?

EDIT:

Oh hang on, are you saying the difference between summer time(adjusted) and winter time(now) would be 2 hours?

kraggy

Best way to explain it is this.

Time now in Ireland is 11.10am.
If it were winter, the time would be 10.10am.

Time now in Paris is 12.10pm, as they are on CET +1.

Therefore the difference between Paris summer time and our winter time is 2 hours.

kneemos

Leave our cocks alone

wexie

bb12 wrote: »

from reading the above i think a lot of people have misconceptions about exactly how much sunlight we actually get in mid winter!

currently as it stands, at mid-winter, the sun rises at 8:40am and sets at 4:10pm....

so even if we didn't go with the whole putting the hour back thing, that would mean, the sun would rise at 9:40am and set at 5:10pm...

i don't see how this would benefit anyone working in offices!! it would still be dark when going and coming home from work!

I don't think they'd be doing it for that, it would be to facillitate business between here and mainland Europe

Ruudi_Mentari

Too much darkness is depressing in the winter either way; so lighten the load on the people that have to get up early I say

hfallada

The time needs to stay the same for the thousands that work in multinational companies that phone the us and conference call constantly. One of the reasons why Ireland is so attractive to the us is the fact we are only about 5 hours ahead of NYC. Plus the Americans do time change.


But the changing the time will never happen as Ireland generally mirrors uk policies on things like this.

jester77

Won't someone think of the microwave clocks :eek:

kylith

Brighter evenings, but surely darker mornings.

af_thefragile

We should just drop the whole time changing business alltogether and stick with the local time. And bright nights are annoying. It should be dark by 10pm!

kraggy

kylith wrote: »

Brighter evenings, but surely darker mornings.

Precisely.

kneemos

kylith wrote: »

Brighter evenings, but surely darker mornings.

Put the clocks back in the morning and foward in the evening,more daylight for everyone.

Feathers

If we change & Britain don't, it won't make sense to have something that's called 'central European time' on the two edges of Europe & not on an island in between

We should introduce Western European Time! (That just happens to be the same as CET). I think the WET acronym would suit too :pac:

Agricola

Prefer it as it is. After a few months of long days in the summer time, its nice to have the dark creeping in around 4/5pm in winter. Summertime is for going out to do things in the evenings, winter is for hibernating. Its the Irish way! The short days do go on abit too long maybe, but Id rather that than it being dark at 9/10am.

Shamrock231

Reading then proposed bill the suggestion is to be in GMT +1 in Winter and GMT +2 in Summer, not GMT +1 all year around.