The Jobbridge Scandal

Cantona's Collars · 09-10-2014 2:27pm

I had a quick search to see what exploitation Jobbridge Schemes are available in my locality.

Here's a doozy: Put into practice the skills you learned ELSEWHERE.

http://www.jobsireland.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DKBq74ibqakUZTG00H/9l7Hdtr8n+pwJeZW2ufWekjX7EjIE5u4UbVyX4jw7JyjbtsQzKYQl9vYDhHglE6OUXN3eosw8RzzJNaIGeIDtjMztefF3LKBfptb130sZZN+aI/F07gP4rz7uOA/ZsgCWWZb81oqjnQABDb9I0T6tnnMaZe7/gjGsTwS9qRg56MBbukXuVk5GCkbSIJrl0MR5zObvPX5nzvjJ2xq5t+xqbPKzoQaAnTW6eUyNCMhb6q9zWfR7ZGJG8qqE2yj3EvH+DJg4HFkzA0ZQPrbai+UkP9Qp/G2XPvN1wosjOmAlQwCfHTkq2cqBdwYqtIq/elyHNtBknpF9WFxNBD0T8mkhQGzaFgbgxlKMjW5nq0Sl+t+InPH0IhUcbMcudP64/eZ2unqYy1OV/c7tCJBEY9jGcuIOsw/IFozMKe0=

Or you could pack stuff in bags & boxes:

http://www.jobsireland.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DDOXC+lvOYiKWobvpNnjmexSqcSjtpo2pOQRQE4CiYvdI08WtYh8pyDhDDMgyQaKtEY/IDjv0KCqQWemps5Ki+khAogkFLxaUd+FrIgV6rVYeqP6Rs499H0qYYz2l0B5Awk9W6FTEq4NUcc8e/AUF5yAOAflSa++wbJFi2x0p2A9cTgxA0ShHkzHiVZb75zOeidp6ehI+Ln83WDSwufB8E65MjvAd0A7Nyt0b3lq+gnr0kh0pyxqTwDlEyrHToSxLGjj2X+jlNSPS74pV8mz0qxJPy+M1vrk7Icovd/rchdBvVjRLPL8mP7nutnVvUjcxQZsACXdb5cZCn67az5ctQZslxNBSgU6B2vtMAV66pEh7++QJJ83jBr2PUUX6UxfqJ4+Xbvb6pd8Iz7feqPFvEKDbsQ310VdDlX9qi36Z3aT/4k/+dTopls=

Iwasfrozen · 09-10-2014 2:32pm

Why do people complain about positions they have no intention of applying for? It's more than a bit pointless, just ignore them and pick something you want to do.

WinnyThePoo · 09-10-2014 2:39pm

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Why do people complain about positions they have no intention of applying for? It's more than a bit pointless, just ignore them and pick something you want to do.

Your actively looking for some one to bite aren't you.

Zillah · 09-10-2014 2:44pm

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Why do people complain about positions they have no intention of applying for? It's more than a bit pointless, just ignore them and pick something you want to do.

Whenever I see someone complain about crime I say the exact same thing! Like, it's not you being beaten and robbed, what's the point in talking about it?

Hermy · 16-10-2014 4:57pm

From FAS website:

Harrison Coffee Shop, Roscommon are looking for a Catering Assistant.
The intern will gain practical experience in dish washing...

CramCycle · 16-10-2014 5:03pm

Hermy wrote: »

From FAS website:

Harrison Coffee Shop, Roscommon are looking for a Catering Assistant.
The intern will gain practical experience in dish washing...

TBF, having kids in the house who are about to go to college and seeing their attempts at this particular job, I suspect it may in fact be a job that takes specialist training for the youth of today.

Hermy · 16-10-2014 7:25pm

CramCycle wrote: »

TBF, having kids in the house who are about to go to college and seeing their attempts at this particular job, I suspect it may in fact be a job that takes specialist training for the youth of today.

Indeed!;)

Burkie7 · 20-10-2014 9:07am

Just got a reply from Mace in Beaumont for a job as a Retail Sales Assistant.

"Thank you for your application, but unfortunately the Retail Sales Assistant position is now filled. If you quality for Job Bridge's Internship please check our advertisement Reference:INTE-883706.

Good luck"

I checked the reference and low and behold its for a Retail Sales Assistant.

Shambles all together.

Streetwalker · 20-10-2014 9:09am

Burkie7 wrote: »

Just got a reply from Mace in Beaumont for a job as a Retail Sales Assistant.

"Thank you for your application, but unfortunately the Retail Sales Assistant position is now filled. If you quality for Job Bridge's Internship please check our advertisement Reference:INTE-883706.

Good luck"

I checked the reference and low and behold its for a Retail Sales Assistant.

Shambles all together.

Shameful stuff.

Mrs Garth Brooks · 20-10-2014 9:10am

Burkie7 wrote: »

Just got a reply from Mace in Beaumont for a job as a Retail Sales Assistant.

"Thank you for your application, but unfortunately the Retail Sales Assistant position is now filled. If you quality for Job Bridge's Internship please check our advertisement Reference:INTE-883706.

Good luck"

I checked the reference and low and behold its for a Retail Sales Assistant.

Shambles all together.

Makes you wonder did they even fill the real vacancy. Even if they did, guess who works more hours?

Burkie7 · 20-10-2014 9:18am

Mrs Garth Brooks wrote: »

Makes you wonder did they even fill the real vacancy. Even if they did, guess who works more hours?

I doubt they did I say they just got found out about what way Jobbridge works and thought they would get themselves some free labor.

I don't think Jobbridge is a total scam I'm actually doing a internship now for my dream job as a Graphic Designer after I just finished college studying it.

I was always getting the "our interviewed well but not enough experience" every interview I went for.

Their paying me an extra 50 euro themselves and I'm learning something new every day but this kind of internship should be what the scheme is about.

Not Retail Sales Assistant that could be learned in a couple of days.

Hermy · 20-10-2014 9:37am

Burkie7 wrote: »

I don't think Jobbridge is a total scam I'm actually doing a internship now for my dream job as a Graphic Designer after I just finished college studying it.

While I don't agree with internships on principal I wish you well as it looks like your internship is fit for purpose ie: it's providing you with relevant experience for a defined career.
However, as long as there are no checks and balances JobBridge remains wide open to abuse and we will continue to see unskilled/ semiskilled positions being advertised as internships. This sets a dangerous precedent, distorts the jobs market, and makes it even harder for people to source paid employment.

20-10-2014 10:23am

Burkie7 wrote: »

Just got a reply from Mace in Beaumont for a job as a Retail Sales Assistant.
"Thank you for your application, but unfortunately the Retail Sales Assistant position is now filled. If you quality for Job Bridge's Internship please check our advertisement Reference:INTE-883706.
Good luck"
I checked the reference and low and behold its for a Retail Sales Assistant.
Shambles all together.

Good on you for sharing this. Its abuses like this that is giving JobBridge a worse name than it already has. While I know there are some good genuine ones, this really is taking the Michael.

The_Captain · 20-10-2014 2:21pm

Burkie7 wrote: »

I don't think Jobbridge is a total scam I'm actually doing a internship now for my dream job as a Graphic Designer after I just finished college studying it.

Bookmarking this post to see the update in six months when you're lamenting the fact that you can't get paid work as a graphic designer due to job bridge interns

Burkie7 · 20-10-2014 3:05pm

The_Captain wrote: »

Bookmarking this post to see the update in six months when you're lamenting the fact that you can't get paid work as a graphic designer due to job bridge interns

Maybe so but hopefully not mate this is my dream job so the thoughts of going back on the dole after doing this internship is horrible!

Iwasfrozen · 20-10-2014 3:09pm

Burkie7 wrote: »

Maybe so but hopefully not mate this is my dream job so the thoughts of going back on the dole after doing this internship is horrible!

Don't listen to all the bitter berties on this thread lad, despite what the negative nellies say jobbridge is a really good initiative for graduates.

20-10-2014 4:22pm

Burkie7 wrote: »

Maybe so but hopefully not mate this is my dream job so the thoughts of going back on the dole after doing this internship is horrible!

Hopefully you'll get a full time job at the end of this Internship. If not, you will have gained valuable experience to add to your CV. Best of Luck.

Daith · 20-10-2014 4:36pm

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Don't listen to all the bitter berties on this thread lad, despite what the negative nellies say jobbridge is a really good initiative for graduates.

No it's not. Most companies already had graduate schemes where they would pay the graduate an actual wage. Or you know on the job training.

It's a great scheme for companies taking on graduates not for graduates.

Burkie7 wrote: »

Maybe so but hopefully not mate this is my dream job so the thoughts of going back on the dole after doing this internship is horrible!

Still best of luck with it and hopefully something good will come out of it.

B.A._Baracus · 05-11-2014 2:34am

Can I be honest with you's?
I got a job in retail recently and being brutally honest... I think a JobBridge internship is 10 times better than a retail job (and other industries apply here)
But it's messed up to state that having an internship IN a retail job would be better off than having a paid job IN retail.

But I should probably explain what I mean.
Long gone are the days when you get full time employment in retail unless you are management. You will only be offered anywhere from a 4 hour contract to a max of a 12 hour contract per week. Very rarely will you be asked to work anything than 3 hours more than your contract.

So let's create an example about how things are messed up....
You are a person who can work full time. But you work in retail and only work 14 hours per week spread across 5 days (yes retail companies actually spread your hours like this) So that works out at 14 x €8.65 min wage = €121.10c for the week.
Now compare that to a person who does an internship in retail. Yes, they'll be working the full 40 hour week but they come out with €238 (€188 sw + €50 internship) But in both examples you are asked to come in 5 days a week :rolleyes:

Even if you take the extra 50 euro away. Chalk it up to bus fares and lunches. You will still make more doing an internship than actually working for a retail company.

DoYouEvenLift · 05-11-2014 3:44am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Can I be honest with you's?
I got a job in retail recently and being brutally honest... I think a JobBridge internship is 10 times better than a retail job (and other industries apply here)
But it's messed up to state that having an internship IN a retail job would be better off than having a paid job IN retail.

But I should probably explain what I mean.
Long gone are the days when you get full time employment in retail unless you are management. You will only be offered anywhere from a 4 hour contract to a max of a 12 hour contract per week. Very rarely will you be asked to work anything than 3 hours more than your contract.

So let's create an example about how things are messed up....
You are a person who can work full time. But you work in retail and only work 14 hours per week spread across 5 days (yes retail companies actually spread your hours like this) So that works out at 14 x €8.65 min wage = €121.10c for the week.
Now compare that to a person who does an internship in retail. Yes, they'll be working the full 40 hour week but they come out with €238 (€188 sw + €50 internship) But in both examples you are asked to come in 5 days a week :rolleyes:

Even if you take the extra 50 euro away. Chalk it up to bus fares and lunches. You will still make more doing an internship than actually working for a retail company.

Don't all people under 24 only get €100?

B.A._Baracus · 05-11-2014 3:56am

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

Don't all people under 24 only get €100?

A very good statement. One of which I should have added. So fair props DoYouEvenLift

But you are correct. Messed up thing is in my job there are quite a few people older than 25. Like don't get me wrong there is probably slightly more under that age too. But it's kinda balanced. I would say 60% / 40%

DoYouEvenLift · 05-11-2014 8:05am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

A very good statement. One of which I should have added. So fair props DoYouEvenLift

But you are correct. Messed up thing is in my job there are quite a few people older than 25. Like don't get me wrong there is probably slightly more under that age too. But it's kinda balanced. I would say 60% / 40%

Only reason I pointed it out is because I was thinking this scheme is kind of geared more towards the unemployed youth and if someone under 24, receiving €100 from sw, does one of these they'll only be brought up to €150. And since some of these jobs have >30 hour work weeks, that'd work out at the equivalent of €5 per hour, obviously less than minimum wage, which is ridiculous. Can't blame those who are outraged about this.

Just waffling here btw, this has probably already been talked about ITT but I haven't read it all.

PopePalpatine · 05-11-2014 10:48am

Aren't there some welfare payments for part-time workers?

WinnyThePoo · 05-11-2014 10:56am

Was looking on Jobbridge last night. Saw a couple of 12 month internships. Thought companies could only go up to nine months.

nibble · 05-11-2014 3:22pm

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Aren't there some welfare payments for part-time workers?

You have to work three days or less per week. It doesn't matter how many hours this equates to, you claim on days not worked. So for example if you worked four days per week but only 4 hours on each of those days you couldn't claim any JBA/JBB but if you worked 3 hours at 8 hrs per day you could claim for the remaining two days of the "working week". A ridiculous system to be honest.

I'm open to correction on that but I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

B.A._Baracus · 05-11-2014 3:37pm

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Aren't there some welfare payments for part-time workers?

There is. But just like anything else there is red tape.
If you work more than 3 days a week you are not entitled to welfare supplement. It goes on days worked and not hours. So if you are hired to be fully-flex then you wont get nothing.

Daenarys · 07-11-2014 12:28am

Has anyone ever officially reported a company on Jobbridge that were in breach? Did Jobbridge do anything about it or did it disappear into thin air?

Kai123 · 07-11-2014 11:47pm

Daenarys wrote: »

Has anyone ever officially reported a company on Jobbridge that were in breach? Did Jobbridge do anything about it or did it disappear into thin air?

Normally they are banned for taking an internship for a few months or something.

demakinz · 08-11-2014 12:20am

Deli Sales Assistant

Description
The intern will gain practical experience in dealing with customers, customer service, refreshing shelves. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: customer service, dealing with suppliers and customers in a busy retail environment, cooking and how to present food. On completion the intern will have attained skills in customer service, how to deal with suppliers and customers, how to run a busy deli.

What a load of BS.

Daenarys · 08-11-2014 11:13am

Kai123 wrote: »

Normally they are banned for taking an internship for a few months or something.

I know that is what is supposed to happen but I was asking if anyone had actually reported a company and what actually happened?

Did Jobbridge acknowledge the complaint or just ignore it?

I ask because I genuinely don't think anyone is dealing with complaints with the amount of internships that are approved to go on the live site despite being in breach of agreement.

For example, I just know of one case where they interviewed in a city council and were told that out of hours work would be part of it, finishing no later than 10pm and working every second Saturday (on top of the 5 day/40hour week). Apparently this wasn't the first time this internship had been advertised either. So either nobody reports or else Jobbridge ignore the reports............

The Jobbridge Scandal

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