The Jobbridge Scandal

Coffeeteasugar

Wompa1 wrote: »

the slaves were human....

Yes, but slavery denies fundamental human rights :P

Capt'n Midnight

None of 228 Government department JobBridge interns kept on

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/none-of-228-government-department-jobbridge-interns-kept-on-1.1521412

Xenji

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

None of 228 Government department JobBridge interns kept on

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/none-of-228-government-department-jobbridge-interns-kept-on-1.1521412

You have a moratorium on hiring in the Government and the Councils, they should not be able to offer internships as they know from the get go they cannot hire you in the end. Also because they are such big employers, they can hire as many interns as they like without having to wait the 3 months before they can advertise for a new intern.

We have over 20 here at the moment and all were told after a few months they would not get jobs out of it, like it was something they should of known before they took up the internship. Before the 9 months is up they will already have done interviews for the new batch of interns that will replace the current batch and have them start the Monday after the old ones have left. We have had close to 75 interns in since the start of this scheme and have been told we will continue to use them for the foreseeable future.

Mr Benevolent

Have to say that my girlfriend is doing well with Jobbridge so far, the company like her and gives her an extra €50 per week on top of the Jobbridge topup. It's really helping her confidence in changing career, she's up and active and feels a lot better about herself. All in all it's a good experience for her and I'm delighted that she feels better about herself.

rawn

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

Have to say that my girlfriend is doing well with Jobbridge so far, the company like her and gives her an extra €50 per week on top of the Jobbridge topup. It's really helping her confidence in changing career, she's up and active and feels a lot better about herself. All in all it's a good experience for her and I'm delighted that she feels better about herself.

That's great, if only all employers on the scheme were that good!

Paddy Cow

Xenji wrote: »

You have a moratorium on hiring in the Government and the Councils, they should not be able to offer internships as they know from the get go they cannot hire you in the end. Also because they are such big employers, they can hire as many interns as they like without having to wait the 3 months before they can advertise for a new intern.

We have over 20 here at the moment and all were told after a few months they would not get jobs out of it, like it was something they should of known before they took up the internship. Before the 9 months is up they will already have done interviews for the new batch of interns that will replace the current batch and have them start the Monday after the old ones have left. We have had close to 75 interns in since the start of this scheme and have been told we will continue to use them for the foreseeable future.

It must be really frustrating for existing staff to have to constantly train in new people.

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

Have to say that my girlfriend is doing well with Jobbridge so far, the company like her and gives her an extra €50 per week on top of the Jobbridge topup. It's really helping her confidence in changing career, she's up and active and feels a lot better about herself. All in all it's a good experience for her and I'm delighted that she feels better about herself.

Shush. They're not supposed to do that so don't tell anyone

kantkope

Gongoozler wrote: »

Searching for an administration job... Every one of them is a FCKING JOB BRIDGE!!!!

I'm working at the min, doing a CE scheme which is finished in October, I am worried sick I won't get a job as they are practically all advertised on Job Bridge!! I can't take up one of these positions (dunno if I even qualify cos of the CE scheme) as I have 2 children and between creche fees, childcare fees, petrol etc an extra €50 per week would be nothing compared to what I would need! I am looking to go back full time possibly even tho I would have to struggle even more for a few yrs it would be worth it but there's slim pickings out there........

Mr Benevolent

Shush. They're not supposed to do that so don't tell anyone

Fear not, they're not the only company in Kildare to do it!

Mr Benevolent

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

Have to say that my girlfriend is doing well with Jobbridge so far, the company like her and gives her an extra €50 per week on top of the Jobbridge topup. It's really helping her confidence in changing career, she's up and active and feels a lot better about herself. All in all it's a good experience for her and I'm delighted that she feels better about herself.

It`s not really any good for the economy though, its more like a legitimised black market when employers are doing that. Less income tax and real wages in the economy. The general tax payer gets screwed

Guyanachronism

Paddy Cow wrote: »

It must be really frustrating for existing staff to have to constantly train in new people.

Other than basic introduction to the software and office there isn't much training invovled, they're taking on graduates to fill specialist or research roles.

Xenji

Guyanachronism wrote: »

Other than basic introduction to the software and office there isn't much training invovled, they're taking on graduates to fill specialist or research roles.

Yeah about less than 10 percent of them, have you seen what people are being offered, most sit in a office filing or typing all day, they actually prefer to take on people with no qualification and use them as slave labour. I have done one with a council and they said you needed a degree, but low and behold the person who got the job with me had not even gone to college.

copperhead

http://jobseeker.fas.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DBy9s941X7ObmYnmpOESkzm3y7eAw0JtRl9elm/aXDi+t09S8D7WREfSinXjFzsikT4sZZsPc7Zq06BOH5eSc8RGo9OqS9fWqtWX9X6wCiFr7taxFICBRBn9T5zBitCpgoBZMXWkoxwS+uZ7uYQBF6hPr5wA1b0Yhnu/yqIokKazF3Pobk2OhNzPMSYbO+92FD4bhIPcBbckCOm+JmVeunS0pB67YYHKoyCZ4xPMq6thA7zJGkDLzORCx4hpTh8k/DXx7CqpP946VQ9w0NXM5AjSgbxv2EFp6xJT/Q4NKM5D3lIiW7g3QYyyYcc8iT9bd4ffiqoGcrIVZjdKg7uo90TtIQ4oFsNaZ81sVtlMRJB5Qi/SZTo2FuXVpSl6bP9jYVopWJcyiEU0ahKCQ1VwFQGjezYFYCTP6CdDjCkAOd+3

school cleaner internship
jobs bridge is just a joke

cloudatlas

school cleaner internship
jobs bridge is just a joke

Definitely 'The Intern will be a person of pleasant disposition who would like to work in a learning environment'. What does it matter what kind of environment it is you're still scrubbing the floor for peanuts!!!

Guyanachronism

Xenji wrote: »

Yeah about less than 10 percent of them, have you seen what people are being offered, most sit in a office filing or typing all day, they actually prefer to take on people with no qualification and use them as slave labour. I have done one with a council and they said you needed a degree, but low and behold the person who got the job with me had not even gone to college.

That's ancedotal evidence. The report on jobbridge interns in the civil service listed:

legal assistants
librarians
research assistants
strategic oil policy analyst
metreological researcher

Dept. of Taoiseach recently adverstised for position requiring a knowledge of labour market statistics. It's only a minor selection, but considering the value of experience working in a government department and difficult of finding jobs for economics, law and other humanity graduates. I would say no college education is the exception for those filling the positions. The positions are specialised usually asking for existing knowledge in specific policy or skill areas.

I can't say that the county councils are scamming, how many people with degrees applied for the position? A big problem with implementation of jobbridge is that the criteria aren't enforced. It was only ever meant to be for third level graduates getting their first experience but a load of other people are taking them. There is a mix of dead weight and abuse crowding out the decent positions. Cheapens them for people who get a decent position through jobbridge.

Xenji

Guyanachronism wrote: »

That's ancedotal evidence. The report on jobbridge interns in the civil service listed:

legal assistants
librarians
research assistants
strategic oil policy analyst
metreological researcher

Dept. of Taoiseach recently adverstised for position requiring a knowledge of labour market statistics. It's only a minor selection, but considering the value of experience working in a government department and difficult of finding jobs for economics, law and other humanity graduates. I would say no college education is the exception for those filling the positions. The positions are specialised usually asking for existing knowledge in specific policy or skill areas.

I can't say that the county councils are scamming, how many people with degrees applied for the position? A big problem with implementation of jobbridge is that the criteria aren't enforced. It was only ever meant to be for third level graduates getting their first experience but a load of other people are taking them. There is a mix of dead weight and abuse crowding out the decent positions. Cheapens them for people who get a decent position through jobbridge.

I agree with what you are saying, but none of those people will get a job out of it due to the Moratorium on Recruitment and Promotions in the Public Service, yes it is good experience and looks good on a CV, but it is a bit disheartening working for 9 months and knowing you will not be kept on at the end of it.

Guyanachronism

Xenji wrote: »

I agree with what you are saying, but none of those people will get a job out of it due to the Moratorium on Recruitment and Promotions in the Public Service, yes it is good experience and looks good on a CV, but it is a bit disheartening working for 9 months and knowing you will not be kept on at the end of it.

Will there is the specialist AO recruitment at the moment and a general recruitment is a year or so away. They do occasional advertise specialist entry level positions. It's obviously not enough to take on all the jobbridge interns. Hopefully they will get a few extra points when recruitment starts again, because when it does there will be a huge back log of people applying.

I understand the lack of prospects at the end can be frustrating. I am at the point at the moment where I am sick of writing applications. But there are always a lot of positions advertised in London, Brussels and other EU capitals. If you'e looking to stay in the politics/governance side of things. Very competitive but everything is at the moment.

LittleFox

Just applied for a role to gain experience in health and safety as i will be finished my masters next week. Within 10 minutes of sending in my cv the company rang me looking to do an interview. But because its a stupid jobsbridge scheme I'm not eligible, I would have to give up my part time job to apply and he specifically said if i find myself in reciept of benefits for 12 weeks to definitely call them up again about the role. So irritating!!! I just want to gain some experience I dont even care if i have to work for free i did it before for 6 months.

Paddy Cow

LittleFox wrote: »

Just applied for a role to gain experience in health and safety as i will be finished my masters next week. Within 10 minutes of sending in my cv the company rang me looking to do an interview. But because its a stupid jobsbridge scheme I'm not eligible, I would have to give up my part time job to apply and he specifically said if i find myself in reciept of benefits for 12 weeks to definitely call them up again about the role. So irritating!!! I just want to gain some experience I dont even care if i have to work for free i did it before for 6 months.

The scheme is really taking the p!ss. It's encouraging people to go on the dole for 3 months only to work for 9 months for free. What a joke.

rannerap

I got offered a job bridge and was there only a week before I quit as I managed to get a full time paying job. I was only the newest in a long line of interns and there was no chance of me being kept.The job bridge had me working 45 hours a week and the commute was brutal, I left mine at 6.45 in the morning to be in at 9 and I didnt get home until 7 each evening. I leave and get home at the same time for the new job, only difference is I'm actually being paid for doing the same work. I would never do a job bridge again

Fred Swanson

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Xenji

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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You cannot be forced, but they will set up interviews for you on your behalf if they think it meets the qualification you have, and it makes you look bad if you do not take it. The big problem now is that if you have done a 6 or 9 month internship and do not get a job out of it, which occurs more frequently than not, you cannot do another Job Bridge and with so many employers now using the system, it is even harder to get a job.

The scheme was meant to end at the start of this year, but has been extended, so unless they they really put their foot down and regulate it you will have fewer and fewer jobs available. They also deem you to be off of the live register if you are own the scheme, which make the government look good and make it look like unemployment is going down, when in truth it is only going down as so many people are on this scheme.

cloudatlas

None of 228 Government department JobBridge interns kept on

I was talking to an acquaintance who works in one of the departments and they said that none of the JobBridge interns have been taken on in their dept, I think they had around five so far. And here's the kicker according to the article the Department of Justice gave internships to 90 people on social welfare. :mad:

rawn

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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A girl I know has been told by the SW that she needs to apply for a Jobbridge scheme and accept it if offered, and said they will cut her off if she doesn't cooperate. They have threatened her with this several times already, despite the fact that in the last 15 years she's been working/studying, she has only been on the dole for about 5 months total.

Fred Swanson

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joi99

Slavebridge is being expanded;

"Interns will be able to avail of three internships, up from two. The maximum duration of internships in this case will be extended from nine months to 18 months, which the Department says will provide “further opportunities for jobseekers”.

Are there no depths this Govt won't sink to. Disgusting.

Tombi!

http://www.thejournal.ie/jobbridge-internships-1090183-Sep2013/
Link to what joi said
The Department’s quality and control checks have also been improved, with a significant increase in monitoring and site visits being conducted.
Codes of practice and guidelines have been introduced for placements in key sectors such as childcare and health.

That part seems nice.

Minister Burton said that the number of internships taken up under JobBridge has now passed 20,000.
Wonder if that includes the likes of Tesco and so on looking for staff on JB?

ies for young people in disadvantaged areas.
Three in five participants in JobBridge secure employment within five months of completing their internships.

Well that's nice; you just get in a new intern for slave labour when the current one runs out.

allibastor

at 18 months, they will be able to do the job inside and out, and should have NO reason not to be employed. generally after 3 months people will be wel able to do the job they are interning for and should be employed.

I actually do fear for the future of young workers, they will have no choice but to leave to find employement. It is true also for anyone with kids, the minders fees for them alone will make it impossible to go to work. My misses is on College and it is very hard with chikd minding for one, if she was working full time for jobbridge for 50 euro a week, cause she would be means tested and get nothing, we would not be able to afford child minders and she would not eb able to work. I dont understand the logic in it at all.

Gongoozler

Just when I thought the government couldn't get any dumber.

Xenji

That is crazy, your gonna have employers doing the same thing as they are doing now, except wasting the employees time by letting him go after 18 months instead of 9 months, this country will be completely devoid of steady employment and you would be crazy to take the chance on wasting 18 months of your life for a extra 50 euro for doing something that you might never be kept on for. I wonder if people who are doing internships now will be able to extend their JobBridges for another 9 months or do they have to look for a new one.

I've given up on even looking at Jobbridge. It's so damned depressing and so have pretty much glued myself to LinkedIn and other job websites.