The Jobbridge Scandal

Tarzana2

Mint Aero wrote: »

Why would someone with experience work in a jobsbridge sheme?

They wouldn't, that's why he's having trouble finding someone, I'm guessing!

Xenji

shruikan2553 wrote: »

Any idea if the plan is to promote them to jobridge intern after the 9 months of first steps?

The literature was not really clear about if they could be kept on in the same host organization or not, with JB you cannot do more than one internship withe the same company.

Bongalongherb

tomwaterford wrote: »

In reality depsnt work like that....my mate left an internship over repeated instinsences like this...contacted job bridge crowd,the boss of the company etc....never heard nothing...only it'll be sorted ....left after four months and had absolute hell to get back on the dole

Well obviously that is very bad for your mate, but usually making an appointment with your local TD explaining the matter would help a lot as this is the second port of call I would go to if the JB supervisor didn't sort it out stat.

66ad

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Well obviously that is very bad for your mate, but usually making an appointment with your local TD explaining the matter would help a lot as this is the second port of call I would go to if the JB supervisor didn't sort it out stat.

They don't care, don't do it. Lose your dole.

SureYWouldntYa

Seen a local shop advertising a position for jobridge. Deli Assistant, 30 hours a week

Because you need an internship to know how to make a breakfast roll and a ham sandwich

starlit

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Excellent point. There are sooooo many marketing internships out there (usually social media or salesy type stuff) but it will be with, like, a corner shop or plumbing business or whatever. These places aren't going to be able to give you a good training in marketing, because it's not their primary business. These businesses actually need to hire an experienced marketing professional but they don't want to, so hire an inexperienced person who is interested in the field but because they have little to no relevant experience, they won't be much good probably, but probably good enough for a small business, I guess. It doesn't really aid the person looking for good experience though.

So you mean you be better off apply to a paid marketing internship?

Tarzana2

doovdela wrote: »

So you mean you be better off apply to a paid marketing internship?

I don't know really, depends! I think you'd be better off trying to get one where there's a dedicated marketing department with experienced marketers, and with a marketing agency. Paid or unpaid, that would be more valuable.

Tearin It Up

Don't know why I'm asking after hours instead of work and jobs. But I suppose I'll I might get a mix of answers (good and bad) here instead of in the work and jobs where they may tell me to go for it as its work, I don't know.

But

I contacted a company to see if they would be interested in taking on an intern in position x. I've got the qualifications, spent time in college, went out on work experience on a weekly basis.

They have some positions advertised in position y but its more like fancy cleaning.

What if they contact me telling me about the positions available as a fancy cleaner. I'm going backwards if I take an internship, I done more on work experience in college, all the while I'll be moving and paying rent and bills.

Does that make sense to anyone.

Position y is an assistant to what I'm qualified in. Jobbridge experience in a downgraded position.

circadian

Tearin It Up wrote: »

Don't know why I'm asking after hours instead of work and jobs. But I suppose I'll I might get a mix of answers (good and bad) here instead of in the work and jobs where they may tell me to go for it as its work, I don't know.

But

I contacted a company to see if they would be interested in taking on an intern in position x. I've got the qualifications, spent time in college, went out on work experience on a weekly basis.

They have some positions advertised in position y but its more like fancy cleaning.

What if they contact me telling me about the positions available as a fancy cleaner. I'm going backwards if I take an internship, I done more on work experience in college, all the while I'll be moving and paying rent and bills.

Does that make sense to anyone.

Position y is an assistant to what I'm qualified in.

If it is offered you could either turn it down and keep looking or take it and give it a shot with a view of getting in to the role you want. If there is a potential for promotion then it might be worth your while going in, working your ass off, forming relationships with those in the role you want and generally making a good impression.

Personally, that's what I'd do. It might be a wait but if you've made a good impression then your chances of being offered a job if a role comes up is much higher.

Tearin It Up

circadian wrote: »

If it is offered you could either turn it down and keep looking or take it and give it a shot with a view of getting in to the role you want. If there is a potential for promotion then it might be worth your while going in, working your ass off, forming relationships with those in the role you want and generally making a good impression.

Personally, that's what I'd do. It might be a wait but if you've made a good impression then your chances of being offered a job if a role comes up is much higher.

Thanks, reading the job description, its not to bad, there's alot more than just cleaning. If I got an interview, i could ask for more responsibility, duties or is that against jobbridge rules and they do have a couple of premises, so if I was to get my foot in the door in one of them.

starlit

Tarzana2 wrote: »

I don't know really, depends! I think you'd be better off trying to get one where there's a dedicated marketing department with experienced marketers, and with a marketing agency. Paid or unpaid, that would be more valuable.

How do you know which companies/businesses to apply for? I've had mixed reactions on that, that its better to apply to a smaller business or internship to actually get an interview/experience/fill gap on CV than to apply to a bigger company/business but not getting anywhere with applications?

Are you saying that a business/company that has an actual marketing department or a company that specialises in marketing be better companies to apply for?

I've applied to those in the private and public sector, big and small companies, internships (unpaid/paid) or short term contracts and some companies that have a marketing department but not getting anywhere?

Tarzana2

doovdela wrote: »

Are you saying that a business/company that has an actual marketing department or a company that specialises in marketing be better companies to apply for?

Yeah, both of those, rather than some business hiring you to basically be the marketing department, but as an intern. You really need an experienced mentor for it to be worthwhile.

Tearin It Up

Has anyone come across jobbridge positions being advertised on other websites? On non-jobbridge websites.

Saw a company looking for an intern, intern must be unemployed and available to take up the jobbridge scheme.

But if the position isn't advertised through the correct channels i.e. jobbridge welfare website, the company picks an intern themselves, how does the intern get the extra €50.

Or do companies think, its an automatic right to the €50 if they pick someone out of no where.

Also, I know from keeping an eye on the jobbridge website daily, that positions are often slow to to be advertised. A position might pop up one day, it wasn't there the day before, but it would say the add was created the day before. It seems as if once an add is created, its not available to see until the next day.

So, based on this, the position I saw advertised on Monday on a different website should be available today, but its not.

Xenji

Tearin It Up wrote: »

Has anyone come across jobbridge positions being advertised on other websites? On non-jobbridge websites.

Saw a company looking for an intern, intern must be unemployed and available to take up the jobbridge scheme.

But if the position isn't advertised through the correct channels i.e. jobbridge welfare website, the company picks an intern themselves, how does the intern get the extra €50.

Or do companies think, its an automatic right to the €50 if they pick someone out of no where.

Also, I know from keeping an eye on the jobbridge website daily, that positions are often slow to to be advertised. A position might pop up one day, it wasn't there the day before, but it would say the add was created the day before. It seems as if once an add is created, its not available to see until the next day.

So, based on this, the position I saw advertised on Monday on a different website should be available today, but its not.

Mentioned it before, but I have seen loads of internships being advertised on job sites that are not on the official site, these usually though are people who know very little about the scheme and are just looking for free labour.

Spunge

i did jobbridge in software dev and it was a great help although app development is kind of dead now. so had to relearn full web-stack and get into that.

Tearin It Up

Xenji wrote: »

Mentioned it before, but I have seen loads of internships being advertised on job sites that are not on the official site, these usually though are people who know very little about the scheme and are just looking for free labour.

Its an absolute joke cause there's a process to follow in advertising a position, the company has to download a form to be sent off, a start date entered by the company.

It sounds as if they have heard about jobbridge=free labour, but not the process in getting an intern. Which is an absolute joke, cause its stressful enough taking up a "job", possibly moving, even daily travel and then to top it off they are making the process longer and harder, for a miserable €50.

Tearin It Up

This hotel is staffing their whole hotel for the summer from the jobbridge scheme. They're looking for 5 of them.

These were summer jobs in my day.

Roquentin

Tearin It Up wrote: »

This hotel is staffing their whole hotel for the summer from the jobbridge scheme. They're looking for 5 of them.

These were summer jobs in my day.

thats just terrible. serious abuse of the system

Uncle Ben

Tearin It Up wrote: »

This hotel is staffing their whole hotel for the summer from the jobbridge scheme. They're looking for 5 of them.

These were summer jobs in my day.

I heard the hotel industry over the last few days talking about all the jobs and money generated for the economy. Proof they say that the 9%vat rate is working. It would appear that some in the same industry want all the spoils. Cheap labour scheme backed by Siptu.

KwackerJack

Today on an Irish jobs website I seen a Solicitors firm looking for an Intern.

Fair enough you say, Read requirements taken from website below (They spelt practicing wrong)


The intern will gain practical experience in a busy Solicitors general practice as a Solicitor. The interns daily tasks will include assisting and supporting Partners and Solicitors on complex cases and they will handle a broad and varied caseload, particularly in the areas of conveyancing and probate. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following - Opsis Solicitor Case Management system and all aspects of office work. On completion the intern will have attained skills in legal practice and also in meeting clients, attending Court, running files and all aspects of conveyancing and probate work


Third Level - Applicants must be qualified as a Solicitor and must currently be eligible to hold a Practising Certificate as issued by the Law Society of Ireland

Xenji

A good few hotels around my neck of the woods are constantly looking for night porters on the scheme.

Tearin It Up

Colleges cant get teachers and instructors any more on the scheme.

But, sure they will get office administrators.

The SEDA college screen shot is taking the mickey, the intern must have some general administration skills. Now you would want to be fairly thick not to be able to staple a few pages, answer a phone, stamp forms, take student payments etc etc etc but for a young person that lets say that has never worked in an administration role. BUT they are asking for experience right there!!!

Hermy

As if it couldn't get any worse...

The intern will gain practical experience in; Dealing with gerneral public washing of cars filling customers petrol/diesel work at busy shop and customer service skills. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following; how to wash a car how to fill petrol/diesel how to do 2 things at the one time training of car wash machine how to work pumps and dealing with cash. On completion the intern will have attained skills in: dealing with general public, will gain good communication skills, a high level of honesty with their managers and general public; will learn to deal with equiries of a mechanical nature, checking oils, changing wipers, adding water to cars i.e. window washer, will handle some cash from Forecourt sales with a high level of honesty involved.

Tombi!

how to do 2 things at the one time
What? Give me a link to this thing. It can't be real.

circadian

I like the constant reference to honesty in that one. The irony!

Hermy

http://jobseeker.fas.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DBaQ8aTnZ81P9nSgTfnPrGBT0Q92eplWmufr6o3D4OpY75uRHOmNc0D3GpLs2umraLxw13wEmYM3K4QVLDKGZBiEMSQPEyEHtQb0Ndasp3/lbmsX9TERIYW6YsfQiPuv0rhxDQSyCHzwjVYzNi9aP9nyfRbixztRYZEL46FMjRuXch44NEbn1mL8xj0/1gWCsFpgwclesvOrEwiF+TAEZPNXSa2dsTAdJ/vB64wrx9vysdO6p46SP9xI/d2YxTuodEyGpcFVVLw0VEdSZD13eOJnThfRDe5IbT0BBrZ7woQ92P1c2Tujbpkqj4QkQcvhtrs9FOoVx0DEenapbibL0m9a9PXx8qIa7ZlyZzsZUsZEn94bFX3ZGtRKA2+iAzjR1dW2/arHtIW6mWuBidiMRIGXdnlRpfH0VSZhqbSEfTpV

Tombi!

Christ.
Smart conman employer he is; not naming his place of business.

Hermy

Google the landline and you have the culprit.
No answer though when I rang either number.

Tearin It Up

The add has been taken down or more like its being changed.

I could be here all day posting links to these slavery roles.

Seen another one recently for a van driver where the intern will gain experience in lorry driving. What does their C license mean, can they drive a lorry or not??

Another one for a household assistant in a nursing home, where they will gain experience in cleaning rooms and checking stock.

Another one looking for a waiter/barperson in Co. Galway. With no information on the restaurant or the whereabouts in County Galway. Only a name@gmail.com, not even restaurant@gmail.com. Galway is a big county, do they expect someone to get a bus from a rural part of Galway into the City and another bus to another town/village in Galway. The intern could be busing it all day, where their €50 top up wouldn't cover it.

Xenji

Hermy wrote: »

As if it couldn't get any worse...

I knew it was only a matter of time till we saw the auld full injection technician internship being offered